Infinity

[Black Shuck]

Originally Posted by lolohwd

if theres a such thing as nothingness then id believe in an infinite amount

Nothingness is a whole different philosophy which is not directly related to infinity.

I wonder what you meant by that.

[ベーゼル]

Originally Posted by Rasengan-

Not exactly, anything thing can be money. Commodity money for example, we could transform the nature of money but we will always have money as a means of exchange. Therefore, money just determine value. Value is infinite.

But I also suggested "credit" we don't actually need money at hand, just something to represent value.

But we can't ignore the concept of reproduction as well.

That won't work, trading an item for money. Basically money is created and are Earth will run out of resources (items,money, etc.) soon. Why would we be required to recyle in some countries.

Originally Posted by Rasengan-

Our mind itself is infinite - consciousness is reality as appeared to self. Is this where this all is going?

consciousness is the prime example - in both physical and mental form.

And 'time' is one, but it seem that's not the answer you are looking for.

The mind can't really be infine because once you die your mind stop. Therefore it is no longer infine.

Originally Posted by Black Shuck

The shortest answer is NO. But predictably, it is not simple as that.

So by predicting we are only assuming it is infinite. When we don't know it could be infinite or not.

Originally Posted by lolohwd

if theres a such thing as nothingness then id believe in an infinite amount

If there is nothingness then you will believe in Infinite amount. What exactly do you mean by this?

[Black Shuck]

Originally Posted by ベーゼル

So by predicting we are only assuming it is infinite. When we don't know it could be infinite or not.

You might find this article interesting.

[ベーゼル]

That article was interesting guess math can possibly become not an infinite if you think it deeply like this article said about math can't be infinite.

Mathematicians consider many types of the infinite; often more than forty. The infinites of mathematics are not truly the Infinity of Conceptualism; there is only one Infinity. For instance: the numbering system is NOT Infinity; no matter how large the number, it is possible to "get to it"; and, add another number. Infinity cannot "be gotten to" as any number (that must be within Reality) can be "gotten to."

Therefore, it is simply never going to be infinite because everything has a possible end to them.

[Black Shuck]

Originally Posted by ベーゼル

That article was interesting guess math can possibly become not an infinite if you think it deeply like this article said about math can't be infinite.

Mathematicians consider many types of the infinite; often more than forty. The infinites of mathematics are not truly the Infinity of Conceptualism; there is only one Infinity. For instance: the numbering system is NOT Infinity; no matter how large the number, it is possible to "get to it"; and, add another number. Infinity cannot "be gotten to" as any number (that must be within Reality) can be "gotten to."

Therefore, it is simply never going to be infinite because everything has a possible end to them.

Well now we got to that.. it is quite clear that neither you (probably) nor I have enough understanding of mathematical concepts/theories involved to really argue about this much less to have an accurate final conclusion.

Edit: I know ^this kills the whole point of creating a thread. But oh well..

[Rasengan-]

Okay so you reached this conclusion and we are having this debate because?

I have suggested that our self-awareness is essentially infinite. We can accumulate infinite knowledge etc. No matter the extend of our life span, during the time we have, us being conscious our mind can be infinite as knowledge itself is infinite.

[ItachiAnbu]

Originally Posted by azal852

was the entire lecture in the spoiler box necessary -_-

It was more necessary than your comment. xD

Originally Posted by Rasengan-

Okay so you reached this conclusion and we are having this debate because?

I have suggested that our self-awareness is essentially infinite. We can accumulate infinite knowledge etc. No matter the extend of our life span, during the time we have, us being conscious our mind can be infinite as knowledge itself is infinite.

But because there will always be something we don't know, our knowledge isn't infinite. We do, however, have infinite potential for acquiring knowledge.

[Rasengan-]

^ yes it is precisely the infinite potential for acquiring knowledge that make possible for infinitity to be achieved.

We cannot not achieve it, but as long there are the potential or capacity to do so make my point about infinity possible.

And obviously I know our knowledge is not infinite lol. i didn't mention we actually can, but just the possibility - accumulate therefore is a good term to describe it.