How fast is FRS - Page 2

Yellow Flash · 06-10-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad Master

Do the math your self!

50 feet per second is 34mph

I'll break it down for you if you cant.

50 per second, there is 60 seconds in a minute. 50x60=3,000
3,000 feet per minute, there is 60 minutes in a hour. 3,000x60=180,000
180,000 feet per hour, there is 5280 feet in a mile. 180,000/5280=34.0909090909

do the math you'll see i'm right. if there is one thing I know it would be math.

It has nothing to do with the math being wrong but the coefficients you used in the equation.

The 1st Hokage · 06-10-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad Master

this is from the manga dude.

Naruto and the Paths were 50 feet away the jutsu top speed would be 340mph.

Chapter 442 pages 7 and 8. It's alot faster than that.

Yellow Flash · 06-10-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad Master

this is from the manga dude.

Top speed at 50 feet away = 340mph
top speed at 100 feet away = 681mph

they were no more then 100 feet way.

Really, 'cause in an earlier post you said you were basing this off of anime, dude. If you still insist after this that you were, or are using manga then tell me the chapter and page you used to based your calc off of.

Again, it has nothing to do with your math being wrong.

Toad Master · 06-10-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The 1st Hokage

Chapter 442 pages 7 and 8. It's alot faster than that.

Prove it how far was they away in there and i'll do the math.

Here is the top speed based off feet away from each other and the jutsu making it there in 0.1 seconds.

Top Speed at 50 feet 340mph
Top speed at 100 feet 681mph
Top speed at 150 feet 1022mph
Top Speed at 200 feet 1363mph
Top Speed at 250 feet 1704mph
Top Speed at 300 feet 2045mph
Top Speed at 350 feet 2386mph
Top Speed at 400 feet 2727mph

The list above gives to the feet the jutsu would have had to make it in 0.1 seconds to be that fast.

We know at best Naruto and the paths were 100 feet away, so at best the jutsu is 681mph, but we know the jutsu didnt make it 100 feet in 0.1 seconds, so its not 681mph, but slower.

Math is never wrong guy weather you like it or not Naruto's jutsu isn't hypersonic.

deidara330 · 06-10-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The 1st Hokage

Chapter 442, pages 7 and 8

You can see the FRS is only around 20 Cm away there, and it's clear Pein would have to jump at least one meter to avoid it by the time it reaches him. This makes a quick calc very easy.

We'll assume 20 cm is correct, and assuming FRS moves at a hilariously slow sound speed...

.2 m / 343 m/s = .00058 s (Time he has to dodge)

It's easy to see Pein would need to jump at least a meter to avoid getting his legs chopped off, so jumping a meter in that time frame:

1 / .00058 s = 1,724.14 m/s (Speed needed to dodge)

And that's only using a very, very low speed for FRS.

Now call me an idiot to believe Deva paths is low hypersonic or better. Once again, this is using the very slow speed of Supersonic.

How does this prove Rasenshuriken's speed? How can you tell that the Rasenshuriken is 20 cm away, or that the Deva Path would have to jump 1 meter? Did you measure it? If so, what scale did you use, and how did you get that scale? Also, in your calculation, you estimate Rasenshuriken's speed. Doesn't this defeat the point of the calculation proving Rasenshuriken's speed? You can't use Deva Path's speed to prove Rasenshuriken's, because characters don't move consistently at the same speed, and he didn't necessarily have to be at top speed to evade the Rasenshuriken.

Toad Master · 06-10-2010, 02:03 PM

Naruto Chapter 432 page 3, naruto and the paths were about 50 to a 100 feet away, and the top speed there is 340mph or 681mph, but we know the jutsu took longer then 0.1 seconds to get to the paths, making it slower then them speeds.

J-Sun Tasogare · 06-10-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad Master

Prove it how far was they away in there and i'll do the math.

Here is the top speed based off feet away from each other and the jutsu making it there in 0.1 seconds.

Top Speed at 50 feet 340mph
Top speed at 100 feet 681mph
Top speed at 150 feet 1022mph
Top Speed at 200 feet 1363mph
Top Speed at 250 feet 1704mph
Top Speed at 300 feet 2045mph
Top Speed at 350 feet 2386mph
Top Speed at 400 feet 2727mph

The list above gives to the feet the jutsu would have had to make it in 0.1 seconds to be that fast.

We know at best Naruto and the paths were 100 feet away, so at best the jutsu is 681mph, but we know the jutsu didnt make it 100 feet in 0.1 seconds, so its not 681mph, but slower.

Math is never wrong guy weather you like it or not Naruto's jutsu isn't hypersonic.

That was anime :P

Toad Master · 06-10-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cursed Uchiha

That was anime :P

My math is from Chapter 432 page 3, naruto & the paths were about 50 feet away at best 100 feet.

deidara330 · 06-10-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad Master

My math is from Chapter 432 page 3, naruto & the paths were about 50 feet away at best 100 feet.

How did you get 50 to 100 feet away? Did you just estimate?

Toad Master · 06-10-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by deidara330

How did you get 50 to 100 feet away? Did you just estimate?

Well, how far would you say they were?
to me and by looking at something thats all you can really do is estimate.
You can tell there no more then 100 feet away.

what would your estimate be?

deidara330 · 06-10-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad Master

Well, how far would you say they were?
to me and by looking at something thats all you can really do is estimate.
You can tell there no more then 100 feet away.

what would your estimate be?

I can't estimate. Considering the camera angle, it's really very hard to tell. There was only one panel with both Naruto and the Pains in it on the page you mentioned. If you want to measure how far away they are accurately, you need a good camera angle (bird's eye view or horizontal work best for me) and you need a scale with which to measure the distance. I've only actually done one speed calculation before, but it was one in which I used Sasuke's height to scale distance. Considering the angle the panel is at, it's hard to use something to scale the distance.

The 1st Hokage · 06-10-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by deidara330

How does this prove Rasenshuriken's speed? How can you tell that the Rasenshuriken is 20 cm away, or that the Deva Path would have to jump 1 meter? Did you measure it? If so, what scale did you use, and how did you get that scale? Also, in your calculation, you estimate Rasenshuriken's speed. Doesn't this defeat the point of the calculation proving Rasenshuriken's speed? You can't use Deva Path's speed to prove Rasenshuriken's, because characters don't move consistently at the same speed, and he didn't necessarily have to be at top speed to evade the Rasenshuriken.

I needed rasenshuriekns speed to make sure that was right. It looks about 20 to 30 centimeters away. It was just a rough guess.

e710 · 06-10-2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad Master

this is from the manga dude.

Top speed at 50 feet away = 340mph
top speed at 100 feet away = 681mph

they were no more then 100 feet way.

Than why didn't pain dodge it if he is faster than that.

Akatsuki X · 06-10-2010, 07:07 PM

This is what happens when you try to use math to explain something in a manga.

So lets say your calculation is correct,
and Rasenshuriken was only around 600 mph.

Pain was unable to dodge it,
Pain=supersonic
So Rasenshuriken = supersonic+

In a manga, plot wins over reason.
Sorry dude.

Toad Master · 06-10-2010, 07:44 PM

using naruto's height 5.4 and using that to scale how far he was from pain on chapter 442 page 5, I came up with about 162 feet.

Ok, lets find out what the jutsu speed is at 162 feet:

0.1 seconds = 11,045mph
0.5 seconds = 441mph
1 second = 110mph
2 seconds = 55mph
3 seconds = 36mph
4 seconds = 27mph
5 seconds = 22mph

this will give you some out look at the speed of the just know we know it took at less 1 second to make it there.

thats real math!

321zigzag2 · 06-11-2010, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The 1st Hokage

Well how fast is the jutsu?

In the manga. It crossed the huge Chibaku Tensei crater in one second.

The time frame exists but the distance is unknown.

Although kishimoto tried to show it as really fast.

Toad Master · 06-11-2010, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 321zigzag2

In the manga. It crossed the huge Chibaku Tensei crater in one second.

The time frame exists but the distance is unknown.

Although kishimoto tried to show it as really fast.

Which chapter and Page? because after naruto got out of CT, he use FRS and the distance was only abot 162 to 200 feet away. and 1 second is 110mph.

321zigzag2 · 06-11-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad Master

Which chapter and Page? because after naruto got out of CT, he use FRS and the distance was only abot 162 to 200 feet away. and 1 second is 110mph.

Naruto Chapter Page 8.

Where in the world did you get that number?

colorles · 06-11-2010, 07:08 PM

did deva pain have or not have shinra tensei when he dodged FRS in the 'crater feat' you mentioned zigzag?

321zigzag2 · 06-11-2010, 07:12 PM

He did.

But Naruto used two FRS in shadow shuriken trick.

06-10-2010, 02:03 PM	#26
Toad Master Genin Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 387 Rep Power: 0	Re: How fast is FRS Naruto Chapter 432 page 3, naruto and the paths were about 50 to a 100 feet away, and the top speed there is 340mph or 681mph, but we know the jutsu took longer then 0.1 seconds to get to the paths, making it slower then them speeds.

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Akatsuki X Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New York Posts: 3,814 Rep Power: 8	Re: How fast is FRS This is what happens when you try to use math to explain something in a manga. So lets say your calculation is correct, and Rasenshuriken was only around 600 mph. Pain was unable to dodge it, Pain=supersonic So Rasenshuriken = supersonic+ In a manga, plot wins over reason. Sorry dude. __________________ I like videos, I like making videos, Me and my friends are funny, we make funny videos. See where I'm going? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

06-10-2010, 07:44 PM	#35
Toad Master Genin Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 387 Rep Power: 0	Re: How fast is FRS using naruto's height 5.4 and using that to scale how far he was from pain on chapter 442 page 5, I came up with about 162 feet. Ok, lets find out what the jutsu speed is at 162 feet: 0.1 seconds = 11,045mph 0.5 seconds = 441mph 1 second = 110mph 2 seconds = 55mph 3 seconds = 36mph 4 seconds = 27mph 5 seconds = 22mph this will give you some out look at the speed of the just know we know it took at less 1 second to make it there. thats real math!

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colorles Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 0	Re: How fast is FRS did deva pain have or not have shinra tensei when he dodged FRS in the 'crater feat' you mentioned zigzag?

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321zigzag2 Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Re: How fast is FRS He did. But Naruto used two FRS in shadow shuriken trick.

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