Itachi + Kisame vs. Orochimaru + Sasori

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by Tourune

Sorry i type fast + im used to textin alot so it rubs off here

JinJutsu is Forbidin Jutsu's

Caz your saying he can survive Poison

Sasori can just sheild him + Oro with the Iron Sand to protect from any of the left sides move

Well, I would suggest you practice typing slower and working on spelling out words. I am a member of the Anti TXT TLK club.

Which forbidden jutsu allows Orochimaru to avoid Water Dome?

When have I specifically stated that Itachi can survive the poison being in his system? I've stated that he can dodge the poison, (this is not the same as surviving it,) I've stated that in the water dome the poison would disperse before it reached him, (this is not the same as surviving it,) and I've stated that the poison isn't likely to get into his system while underwater considering the starting distance. (This is not the same as surviving it.) You've either tried to twist my words or misunderstood my point. If Itachi gets the poison in his system, he has no antidote, so he dies. However, this doesn't mean that Sasori can instantly get the poison into his system from the start of the battle. In the first post I quoted from you, you neglected to explain how Sasori would manage to successfully poison Itachi.

But would that work underwater, in a giant water dome? Kisame can outswim the Iron Sand underwater, and if he just touches Orochimaru or Sasori he can absorb their chakra. Also, Itachi can capture Orochimaru in a Genjutsu on sight. You can't say he wouldn't fall for the same thing a second time, because he actually did when Sasuke fought him. Itachi then proceeds to kill Orochimaru very early in the fight.

[Tourune]

Originally Posted by deidara330

Well, I would suggest you practice typing slower and working on spelling out words. I am a member of the Anti TXT TLK club.

Which forbidden jutsu allows Orochimaru to avoid Water Dome?

When have I specifically stated that Itachi can survive the poison being in his system? I've stated that he can dodge the poison, (this is not the same as surviving it,) I've stated that in the water dome the poison would disperse before it reached him, (this is not the same as surviving it,) and I've stated that the poison isn't likely to get into his system while underwater considering the starting distance. (This is not the same as surviving it.) You've either tried to twist my words or misunderstood my point. If Itachi gets the poison in his system, he has no antidote, so he dies. However, this doesn't mean that Sasori can instantly get the poison into his system from the start of the battle. In the first post I quoted from you, you neglected to explain how Sasori would manage to successfully poison Itachi.

But would that work underwater, in a giant water dome? Kisame can outswim the Iron Sand underwater, and if he just touches Orochimaru or Sasori he can absorb their chakra. Also, Itachi can capture Orochimaru in a Genjutsu on sight. You can't say he wouldn't fall for the same thing a second time, because he actually did when Sasuke fought him. Itachi then proceeds to kill Orochimaru very early in the fight.

iight

All of them

Needles, Gas, Weopons You pick

Sasori can make more sand. just cause the water is big doesnt mean Sasori wont put a ball of Iron sand around himself to sheild himself + since sand is mpre dense than water Sasori will sink + then escape.

Sasuke reversed Orochimaru's body swich jutsu + Oro was sick

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by Tourune

iight

All of them

Needles, Gas, Weopons You pick

Sasori can make more sand. just cause the water is big doesnt mean Sasori wont put a ball of Iron sand around himself to sheild himself + since sand is mpre dense than water Sasori will sink + then escape.

Sasuke reversed Orochimaru's body swich jutsu + Oro was sick

All of them? That's more or less you saying "What jutsu could Kisame use to kill Orochimaru?" and me saying "All of them." Please give me an actual example.

So you're saying that Sasori can easily use these to poison Itachi and Itachi cannot dodge them or stop them? Again, saying "you pick" isn't debating, since you're supposed to be supporting Sasori's side, not me.

Sasori can't escape by sinking. The water goes to the ground, so he can't swim down to escape, and since Kisame has limited chakra detection in the dome, he can swim after Sasori and prevent him from escaping. Kisame underwater is faster than Sasori, so Kisame could catch him and steal all his chakra.

This doesn't change the fact that Itachi defeated Orochimaru using Genjutsu and he wasn't even using Tsukuyomi at the time. Besides that, the Sharingan reversing the jutsu was still the same basic trick to fall for.

[Nyruss]

All of them

Proof.

Needles, Gas, Weopons You pick

Pick which one Sasori won't be using on account of having been killed by Kisame before he can react? Ok, I pick all of them.

Sasori can make more sand. just cause the water is big doesnt mean Sasori wont put a ball of Iron sand around himself to sheild himself + since sand is mpre dense than water Sasori will sink + then escape.

And he's going to do that before or after Kisame kills him before he can do anything on account of being FAR faster than Sasori?

Sasuke reversed Orochimaru's body swich jutsu + Oro was sick

And the award for most pointless statement goes to...

[tanduhman]

Itachi, and kisame oooooowwwwwn this match.

Both itachi, and kisame have shown greater speed feats than the opposing team, better strategy than the opposing team, and better raw power than the opposing team.

Match starts, and itachi puts orochimaru in tsukyomi as kisame uses exploding water shockwave so that the wave drowns orochimaru as he is being mind raped, and immediatly dies from the water going into his lungs.

Next sasori starts to defend himself with iron sand but now kisame uses water dome as sasoris iron sand is now just about useless since it is heavier, and kisame that is now fused is MUCH faster than that of sasori. underwater sasori is just about useless since none of his weopans will work and all he has is hi third kazekage puppet where kisame with greater speedfeats now blitzes for the kill as itachi makes clones with bombs attached to them too add to the effect of owning.

[Tourune]

Originally Posted by deidara330

All of them? That's more or less you saying "What jutsu could Kisame use to kill Orochimaru?" and me saying "All of them." Please give me an actual example.

So you're saying that Sasori can easily use these to poison Itachi and Itachi cannot dodge them or stop them? Again, saying "you pick" isn't debating, since you're supposed to be supporting Sasori's side, not me.

Sasori can't escape by sinking. The water goes to the ground, so he can't swim down to escape, and since Kisame has limited chakra detection in the dome, he can swim after Sasori and prevent him from escaping. Kisame underwater is faster than Sasori, so Kisame could catch him and steal all his chakra.

This doesn't change the fact that Itachi defeated Orochimaru using Genjutsu and he wasn't even using Tsukuyomi at the time. Besides that, the Sharingan reversing the jutsu was still the same basic trick to fall for.

Originally Posted by Dudemeister

Proof.



Pick which one Sasori won't be using on account of having been killed by Kisame before he can react? Ok, I pick all of them.



And he's going to do that before or after Kisame kills him before he can do anything on account of being FAR faster than Sasori?



And the award for most pointless statement goes to...

Originally Posted by tanduhman

Itachi, and kisame oooooowwwwwn this match.

Both itachi, and kisame have shown greater speed feats than the opposing team, better strategy than the opposing team, and better raw power than the opposing team.

Match starts, and itachi puts orochimaru in tsukyomi as kisame uses exploding water shockwave so that the wave drowns orochimaru as he is being mind raped, and immediatly dies from the water going into his lungs.

Next sasori starts to defend himself with iron sand but now kisame uses water dome as sasoris iron sand is now just about useless since it is heavier, and kisame that is now fused is MUCH faster than that of sasori. underwater sasori is just about useless since none of his weopans will work and all he has is hi third kazekage puppet where kisame with greater speedfeats now blitzes for the kill as itachi makes clones with bombs attached to them too add to the effect of owning.

Living Corpse Reincarnation Saves Oro from anything Kisame trys. If Sasori gets traped in Water Dome he covers himself in Iron Sand then blocks all of Kisame's moves. And even if Kisame would come near Sasori he will poison him with his wings or that poison rope thing, same goes for Itachi. oro can also use Manda to smash or disrupt the water dome to help Sasori if he gets caught in it. also Oro's Temporary Paralysis Technique + Wind Release: Great Breakthrough will get him past Itachi if he trys Tskui.

[Akatsuki X]

Your just not going to give up are you Tourune?

Just admit already,
Itachi and Kisame take this so easily,
Tsyukumi and Water Dome are all thats needed.

You just don't want to admit it.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Killer Bee>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Orochimaru and Sasori.

Kisame alone put up a tough fight against Killer Bee.

Adding Itachi with Kisame is a massive stomp, and I don't see how one can honestly think otherwise. If Sasuke>Orochimaru then clearly Itachi is. Sasori cannot even compare to Kisame's power, his best weapons get trolled by Water Dome and Kisamehada.

[Nyruss]

Living Corpse Reincarnation Saves Oro from anything Kisame trys.

No it doesn't.

If Sasori gets traped in Water Dome he covers himself in Iron Sand then blocks all of Kisame's moves.

How's he going to do that if Kisame has already killed him?

And even if Kisame would come near Sasori he will poison him with his wings or that poison rope thing,

Dead people can't poison.

oro can also use Manda to smash or disrupt the water dome to help Sasori if he gets caught in it.

Itachi already killed him.

also Oro's Temporary Paralysis Technique + Wind Release: Great Breakthrough will get him past Itachi if he trys Tskui.

Yeah...no. See, the thing about Itachi putting Orochimaru in a genjutsu is, Orochimaru will be in a genjutsu. And therefore incapable of doing anything.

I don't see how one can honestly think otherwise.

I'm starting to doubt Tourune is an idiot, and wondering if he's actually trolling.

[Tourune]

Originally Posted by Akatsuki X

Your just not going to give up are you Tourune?

Just admit already,
Itachi and Kisame take this so easily,
Tsyukumi and Water Dome are all thats needed.

You just don't want to admit it.

Originally Posted by Dudemeister

No it doesn't.

How's he going to do that if Kisame has already killed him?

Dead people can't poison.

Itachi already killed him.



Yeah...no. See, the thing about Itachi putting Orochimaru in a genjutsu is, Orochimaru will be in a genjutsu. And therefore incapable of doing anything.



I'm starting to doubt Tourune is an idiot, and wondering if he's actually trolling.

im just debating + watch your mouth dueemeister, lets keep this civil

[Nyruss]

im just debating

And I'm Mary Queen of Scots. You're doing something, but debating isn't it.

It's either wanking or trolling. Either way, it's annoying.

[deidara330]

Hey, break it up you two. Dudemeister, stop calling him a troll and wanker. If you want to prove how incompetent he is, then beat him in the debate to the point where no logic can save him. Insults don't help you debate. Tourune, just ignore him. It's the internet, you don't actually have to respond.

Originally Posted by Tourune

Living Corpse Reincarnation Saves Oro from anything Kisame trys. If Sasori gets traped in Water Dome he covers himself in Iron Sand then blocks all of Kisame's moves. And even if Kisame would come near Sasori he will poison him with his wings or that poison rope thing, same goes for Itachi. oro can also use Manda to smash or disrupt the water dome to help Sasori if he gets caught in it. also Oro's Temporary Paralysis Technique + Wind Release: Great Breakthrough will get him past Itachi if he trys Tskui.

Living Corpse Reincarnation doesn't save him from Water Dome. He reincarnates himself back into the Water Dome. Therefore he's escaped nothing. Kisame is much faster than Orochimaru underwater and could quickly kill him. Kisame could also likely kill Sasori before he had the chance to completely cover himself in iron sand. Kisame can dodge the wings and the poison harpoon. Itachi doesn't need to get close to Sasori, he just needs to use Amaterasu on him and burn him. The Water Dome wouldn't get disrupted, it would just have a giant snake in it. I think that Kisame could likely dodge a giant snake underwater. Since it's so huge, and he absorbs chakra through touch, he could avoid it while killing it by sucking out all its chakra. Snakes aren't made for swimming underwater. Orochimaru's Paralysis Technique wouldn't work on Itachi. Itachi could just use his Sharingan to break through it. He wouldn't have time to use Wind Style: Great Breakthrough before Itachi catches him. One look and Orochimaru is already in it.