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Old 05-14-2010, 09:36 PM   #21
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The notion that naruto will lose is the same as disregarding the fact that he won in the manga.
The only reasons Naruto beat Pain:

PNJ; he's the titular character, after all
Pain wasn't bloodlusted while Naruto was
Naruto had prep time for Sage Mode
Naruto had knowledge on Pain
Hinata interfered and got Naruto into six tails
Deva Path, the strongest path, was weakened for like half the fight.

Now because default BG rules state that characters are bloodlusted, I will assume that Pain uses CT or CST early on, therefore killing everyone on the jinchuriki team.
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Old 05-14-2010, 11:12 PM   #22
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I don't mean to be counter productive, but you're basing Naruto's win on Pain's reluctance and the Emotional pain naruto felt when Hinata died?

As for the reference to naruto's prep time with Sage mode, I guess starting him off automatically would be hypocritical. I feel the need to say this, either this thread was pointless from its conception, or pain should be a banned character. Town busters do not equate to an instant win.
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12:11 PM So you enter the debate with full knowledge that you know nothing of worth on the subject, and then state you will not make an effort to learn. Way to be poster-boy for blight of the forum. Leave discussions of intelligence to those that have it.

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Old 05-14-2010, 11:48 PM   #23
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I don't mean to be counter productive, but you're basing Naruto's win on Pain's reluctance and the Emotional pain naruto felt when Hinata died?

As for the reference to naruto's prep time with Sage mode, I guess starting him off automatically would be hypocritical. I feel the need to say this, either this thread was pointless from its conception, or pain should be a banned character. Town busters do not equate to an instant win.
Yes, and PNJ. Pain was also weakened at the start.

Actually this would be a good match, with some restrictions.
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Old 05-15-2010, 05:16 AM   #24
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Yeah naruto would, but did you ever looked that he has help
He can't go into tails by choice. Read the manga, naruto can't control when he does or doesn't go into tails. All of the help in the world won't help him go into tails in this battle. Kisame and itachi hold them off while pain uses CT. And its game over.
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Pain > Naruto
Itachi > Gaara
Kisame > KB

that's how i see it
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:07 AM   #26
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Yeah this is my first battle thread.
So i'm not that experience with making good match-ups and the restrictions and advantages on the characters. So this will just be a start, but i know more match-ups that will be more debatable then this. First i would have to consult my idea's with bacon_army17.
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He can't go into tails by choice. Read the manga, naruto can't control when he does or doesn't go into tails. All of the help in the world won't help him go into tails in this battle. Kisame and itachi hold them off while pain uses CT. And its game over.
I already know that Naruto doesn't have a choice. He didn't in the four tails arc, and doesn't now. My point was that counting out the 8 tails simply becuase he has no emotional pain is hax. The very threat to his life would alert the Kyuubi to use as much strength as possible. It just so happens that the 6 and 8 tails occured by the time he had sage mode.
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ok first they would split up and if naruto got attacked by pain gaara and killer bee could help cause bee can control the 8 tails and if he could beat saskue suigestu and the others alone i think he can beat itachi and gaara could go shukaku on kisame or on pain and its true naruto when 6 tails cause hinata died but he went 8 tails cause of pain attacking him and naruto is learning how to control the nine tails like bee in the manga and so i think team A wins
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I already know that Naruto doesn't have a choice. He didn't in the four tails arc, and doesn't now. My point was that counting out the 8 tails simply becuase he has no emotional pain is hax. The very threat to his life would alert the Kyuubi to use as much strength as possible. It just so happens that the 6 and 8 tails occured by the time he had sage mode.
Naruto won't be in danger he will be dead. Bloodlusted Deva Pain will CT everyone on the right side as soon as he can and none can survive it except maybe KB if he goes 8 tails. Than just sent in Kisame to take care of Bee.
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