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Old 05-13-2010, 01:22 PM   #21
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good fight + Sasuke can fly but Kimim reached Garra in the air so Kimi

also sasuke has no counter to Bone Bullet

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Kimimaro versus Pre shippunden Sasuke after he has the third mark of his sharingan; and he has a chance.

Dance one: Sasuke could use his sharingan to antipate the thrusts from Kimimaro's hidden bones,but the first might kill Sasuke.

Dance two: Kimimaro is out matched here because Sasuke can match Kimi here since his attacks revolve around that bone sword.

Dance three: the Armor of bone was beaten by Drunk lee, who did not have a sharingan; Sasuke could handle this.

However, taking the Curse seal out and revealing his bone armor, and increasing his taijutsu could prove too much for sasuke. In other words, without chidori, and a clean hit, Sasuke will need curse seal one. His fire jutsu are no where near the power of gaara's sand attacks, and his taijutsu is rendered useless.

Dance four/ Curse seal two: Kimi is rather limited to his tailed and spear made of bone. This limits his speed some what, and the ways he can manuever and attack. Against 90 percent of nruto characters, this is deadly. However a sharingan warrior, could find a way around this and use that to his advantage. Sasuke would need curse seal two though.

Climax/ bracken dance: We know little about this dance, other than it creates a bone fortress over 600 in hieght, and Kimimaro can use this to transport himself in and out at will.
Sasuke would most likly lose here due to a lack of chakra, and ability to break this attack.
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Kimimaro > Sound Four (if I remember correct)
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Kimimaro wins.

short sweet and to the point.. all thoese i agree with as facts..

so yes kimimaro wins
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The cloak is when chakra leaks out and becomes visible.
Which is exactly what was happening during his encounter with Kimimaro. The orange chakra was clearly visible, though no tails had formed.
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Jct, the cloak Naruto used from the chunin exams is hwat Naruto was using against Kimimaro. It would be far less potent, and hardly a cloak. It was more like the Kyuubi's chakra leaking just a little.
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Jct, the cloak Naruto used from the chunin exams is hwat Naruto was using against Kimimaro. It would be far less potent, and hardly a cloak. It was more like the Kyuubi's chakra leaking just a little.
Even So, He defeated 100's if not a 1000 without trying. He could have killed Naruto or Lee from the get go.
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Jct, the cloak Naruto used from the chunin exams is hwat Naruto was using against Kimimaro. It would be far less potent, and hardly a cloak. It was more like the Kyuubi's chakra leaking just a little.
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If there are no tails, then it is not a cloak.
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Even So, He defeated 100's if not a 1000 without trying. He could have killed Naruto or Lee from the get go.
I was not debating if Naruto could win, but just trying to distinguish what he was using.
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If there are no tails, then it is not a cloak.
What did I get wrong? xD
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What did I get wrong? xD
During the Chunin exams he was intentionally accessing Kyubi chakra. I don't think he was doing it intentionally vs. Kimi, but I could be wrong.

Either way it still was not a cloak in either battle.
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Ok I see, that is true. I remember Naruto intentionally drawing the chakra in his fight against Neji,but it was actually rage that brought it out against Kimimaro.
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either way Kimimaru wins. Do to Sasuke having nothing to beat him.
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I would have to draw the line there. Chidori could pierce kimimaro's deneses easily. The down side is the dangerous aspect of chidori, and the odds of htting his heart. There is a slim chance Sasuke could win,but he has yet prove himself stronger than Kimimaro.
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I would have to draw the line there. Chidori could pierce kimimaro's deneses easily. The down side is the dangerous aspect of chidori, and the odds of htting his heart. There is a slim chance Sasuke could win,but he has yet prove himself stronger than Kimimaro.

I dont see him getting close enough to Kimimaro in order to hit him. Bone forest would kill Sasuke from the start.
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That's quite enough out of you prasanth. You were neg repped because all you said was kimi stomps. You aren't even TRYING to contribute. Then, you neg repped me in retaliation, your comment being "because you disaproved of my coment". Try working on your spelling bud. The worst is that you claimed to be miles. If you were, my rep would have gone down way more than one single point. Nice try. If you're going to act like that, leave the battlegrounds. You are the exact sort of user D330 and the rest are trying to have removed.

And would anyone mind telling me how it is not a cloak unless there are tails present? Jiraiya simply described it as the ninetails chakra leaking out. Regardless, base sasuke with sharingan was only keeping up with him, whereas base kimi was owning dozens of kyuubi charged shadow clones and naruto with ease. Which essentially shows Base kimi > base pre-sasuke. So both using CMS2 wouldn't really change the outcome much IMO. That's the only point I was trying to show.
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What Naruto in the chunin exams doesn't compare to 1 Tailed form at all.

There should be no attempt to try to make them similar in power if anyone is trying to that is.

1 Tailed form >>> chunin exams Kyuubi Naruto aura thing.
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What I am saying is when naruto first began fighting sasuke, he didn't start with the one tails at all, or even the orange chakra cloak with no tails, and sasuke was taking hits. He had three tamoe at this point, but no curse mark.

With orange chakra leaking V Kimi, Kimi wasn't even struggling. At all.

Pre naruto, orange chakra > none leaking at all.

So base Kimi >>> Orange chakra tapped Naruto

Base pre Sasuke is barely greater than or = no orange chakra leaking at all.

I did forget naruto jumped straight to one tails, and never had any orange chakra leaking at all before that point, like he did with kimi, but still, the logic is there now.
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What I am saying is when naruto first began fighting sasuke, he didn't start with the one tails at all, or even the orange chakra cloak with no tails, and sasuke was taking hits. He had three tamoe at this point, but no curse mark.

With orange chakra leaking V Kimi, Kimi wasn't even struggling. At all.

Pre naruto, orange chakra > none leaking at all.

So base Kimi >>> Orange chakra tapped Naruto

Base pre Sasuke is barely greater than or = no orange chakra leaking at all.

I did forget naruto jumped straight to one tails, and never had any orange chakra leaking at all before that point, like he did with kimi, but still, the logic is there now.
You can't always base battles on how they did VS the same opponent. Also I think Sasuke gets a bigger strength and chakra boost than kimimaro. Also there is a big difference between no tails Naruto and a tail and cloak Naruto.
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What I am saying is when naruto first began fighting sasuke, he didn't start with the one tails at all, or even the orange chakra cloak with no tails, and sasuke was taking hits. He had three tamoe at this point, but no curse mark.
Yet his eyes changed. Its still the same initial form.

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Base pre Sasuke is barely greater than or = no orange chakra leaking at all.
When 3 tomoe came out Sasuke was able to casually react to KN0 movements with ease and counter effectively which forced 1 tailed transformation.

KN0 was defeated. Sasuke in base was marked around Weightless Lee in speed chunin exams.

Base Naruto had to go to KN0 to compete with Sasuke whose 2 tomoe then failed him.
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What I am saying is when naruto first began fighting sasuke, he didn't start with the one tails at all, or even the orange chakra cloak with no tails, and sasuke was taking hits. He had three tamoe at this point, but no curse mark.

With orange chakra leaking V Kimi, Kimi wasn't even struggling. At all.

Pre naruto, orange chakra > none leaking at all.

So base Kimi >>> Orange chakra tapped Naruto

Base pre Sasuke is barely greater than or = no orange chakra leaking at all.

I did forget naruto jumped straight to one tails, and never had any orange chakra leaking at all before that point, like he did with kimi, but still, the logic is there now.
Your wrong Sasuke didnt get the third tamoe until after Naruto started using the fox's chakra.
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