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Old 05-14-2010, 02:40 PM   #1
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Question Gaara,Naruto,Killerbee vs Pain,Itachi,Kisame

Which team would win...
Gaara still has shukaku and
Naruto knows Sage mode.....

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Old 05-14-2010, 02:49 PM   #2
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Old 05-14-2010, 03:02 PM   #3
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Default Re: Gaara,Naruto,Killerbee vs Pain,Itachi,Kisame

pain solos (easily)
kisame and itachi together win without much difficulty

either way, team B stomp
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pain solos (easily)
kisame and itachi together win without much difficulty

either way, team B stomp
Pain could'nt beat naruto....
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Old 05-14-2010, 03:13 PM   #6
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Naruto in nine tails escapes that...-_-
Naruto can't go into kyuubi mode whenever he wants to, he would be unable to use it in this fight. CT solos. And btw, naruto only beat pain with PNJ, it wasn't a true win.
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Naruto can't go into kyuubi mode whenever he wants to, he would be unable to use it in this fight. CT solos. And btw, naruto only beat pain with PNJ, it wasn't a true win.
He get's chakra from it when ever he wants too...
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He get's chakra from it when ever he wants too...
Does this happen after Naruto is crushed by the Chibaku Tensai when he's dead because Pain can use CT before Naruto gets angry and goes at least 6 tails.
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Does this happen after Naruto is crushed by the Chibaku Tensai when he's dead because Pain can use CT before Naruto gets angry and goes at least 6 tails.
He used it after....
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Than Naruto will be dead.
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Than Naruto will be dead.
Then naruto went into 8 tails and escaped....
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Then naruto went into 8 tails and escaped....
Only went into 8 tails because Hinata got hurt and also for most that fight Deva Path was weakened from obliterating the leaf village. If Deva used a Chou Shira Tensai or Chibaku Tensai or whatever on Naruto from the begging instead of the village Pain would have killed. This was not Pains objective to kill Naruto his objective was to capture him so Pain was not bloodlested while Naruto was and that makes a big difference. Also Pain said he could've made a bigger CT when he got 8tail Naruto so he could've killed him even than.
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Only went into 8 tails because Hinata got hurt and also for most that fight Deva Path was weakened from obliterating the leaf village. If Deva used a Chou Shira Tensai or Chibaku Tensai or whatever on Naruto from the begging instead of the village Pain would have killed. This was not Pains objective to kill Naruto his objective was to capture him so Pain was not bloodlested while Naruto was and that makes a big difference. Also Pain said he could've made a bigger CT when he got 8tail Naruto so he could've killed him even than.
Naruto would'nt just let pain capture him and let everyone die...
If that happened then the 9 tails seal will be broken.
And if you saw further into the manga then you see he broken the seal for the nine tails full power.
I'm talking about after that time....
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Naruto would'nt just let pain capture him and let everyone die...
If that happened then the 9 tails seal will be broken.
And if you saw further into the manga then you see he broken the seal for the nine tails full power.
I'm talking about after that time....
Naruto can only draw chalkra from the nine tails, he cannot control the amount of tails he can enter. He WILL NOT be able to go eight tails by choice. Therefore when pain uses CT naruto will die because he won't be able to go into tails to save him. It only happened the first time due to plot, to say it would happen again is wankery. CT=GG
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Naruto would'nt just let pain capture him and let everyone die...
If that happened then the 9 tails seal will be broken.
And if you saw further into the manga then you see he broken the seal for the nine tails full power.
I'm talking about after that time....
CT from the begging will kill Naruto. You remember the CT that destroyed the village. No sh!t Naruto wouldn't just let Pain capture him but in a battled Pain would win but Pain lost because of

PNJ
Naruto had prep time and knowledge
Pain was weakened from the Kohoa battle
Pain wasn't tring to kill Naruto which he could've with CT.
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Naruto can only draw chalkra from the nine tails, he cannot control the amount of tails he can enter. He WILL NOT be able to go eight tails by choice. Therefore when pain uses CT naruto will die because he won't be able to go into tails to save him. It only happened the first time due to plot, to say it would happen again is wankery. CT=GG
Yeah naruto would, but did you ever looked that he has help
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Yeah naruto would, but did you ever looked that he has help
Kisame kills KB just as he did in the magna.
Itachi uses ammy or tsukuyomi on Garra.

Or Pain could just CT all of them.
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What is this? I seriously did not understand half if this debate because if the abbreviations. The notion that naruto will lose is the same as disregarding the fact that he won in the manga.

I'll give this a whirl because I love team fights like this. I'll be conducting this on taking the first team (Gaara, Naruto, and Killerbee) an pit each of them individually against each of the other squad's fighters.
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Gaara: Gaara has been shown to be able to create a tsunami of sand, and litterally make domes of sand with versatille limbs. His small clutch of chakra infused sand can be used to chase down enemies from afar. Now adding shukaku to the mix only makes him stronger, and adds an immense ammount if chakra.

Gaara versus Pain:

Gaara's advantages here are great because his initial defenses stand somewhat of a chance against each pain individually. He can trump them all by enveloping them with his wave of sand. His partial transformation would allot him speed great enough to avoid some gravity bursts. By taking out the resuurecting pain, he could cut the rest of the other 5's support.

His weakness are quite staggering however. The animal path can summon rain to force gaara to use his chakra to use his sand. Even if Gaara could over come the handicap the animal pain placed on him, the gravity pain's ridiculous town busting gravity attack would force gaara to transform. This however doesn't gaurantee that the gravity pain would use small bursts, and just kills him.

Gaara versus Kisame:
Gaara has a greater advantage her becuase kisame uses taijutsu as his focus. Gaara initial sand clutch would not do, but transforming or creating a tsunami would trump normal kisame. If Gaara had to fight the samehada combonation that Kisame can utilize, Gaara's full transformation would be an over kill. The pure range, and ammount of sand would prove troublesome for kisame. Furthermore, Kisame doesn't have the luxury of absorbing the shukaku's chakra since it doesn't leak as much as it's counterparts.

Kisame's main advantage lies within overpowering gaara initially. Without the sand tsunami, Kisame has a definite advantage. Furthermore, Kisame's water element will render Gaara's sand useless.

Gaara versus Itachi:
Gaara could use the shukaku to help break any hold that Itachi could place him under. His. advantages are slim here becuase Itachi's various powers such as sussano and amerterasu could overpower Gaara's defenses. In short, Gaara would need to take advantage of his superior ammount of chakra to win, and hoefully keep Itachi at a distance.

Itachi however would have a definite advantage here. Assuming that Itachi is fairly healthy, the sealing sword or a short range susano assault could envelop Gaara's weakest defenses with ease.

In short, Gaara can
Put up a good fight against pain
beat Kisame argueably
Loses to Itachi

Naruto has a giant rasengan, projectile rasenshuriken, and access to kyuubi coat 8.
Naruto has an inital chakra that matches with Kisame, and his taijutsu could compete with pre shippunden sasuke. So even without his boss summons, Naruto has a lot under his belt.

Naruto versus pain was already decided, he won.

Naruto versus kisame:
Naruto would need to make use of his ability to create hundreds of shadow clones to pull off a sneak attack. The fact is that Naruto cannot compete with Samehada's ability to absorb chakra, but this is not a total loss. If naruto used his projectile rasenshuriken, or flanked Samehada with multiple giant rasengan. Kisame would die. To add on to this, the sheer speed of naruto's Kyuubi coat one, or his brute force in four tails is an overkill somewhat.

Kisame, he definitely could put up a fight. However the fact that naruto's strongest attacks are chakra based; means that he could easily win. Naruto in sage mode could not out due Kisame's brute strength so easily, and his transformation gives him even more power. If the eight tails Killerbee had a tough time beating kisame, the the incomplete nine tails kyuubi would be a good match up.

Naruto versus Itachi:
There's no debate here, Itachi's mangekyo genjutsu would ensnare Naruto with ease. Furthermore, Itachi has multiple ways to seal the nine tails chakra. Furthermore, Itachi could match a healthy Sasuke when he was about to die. That would mean that Naruto would not stand a chance alone against Itachi.

Naruto
can beat pain.
can argueably beat Kisame.
cannot stand a chance against Itachi alone.

I will finish with Killerbee's match up afterwards.
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