Kakuzu, Sasori, Kisame vs Itachi, Deidara, Killer Bee

Location: Forest of Death

Distance: 250 Meters

Conditions: No full host transformation for KB, No C0 for Deidara, Kakuzu has 4 hearts (is missing the same heart that Kakashi took out in their fight), Sasori can't use the 100 puppets technique and starts out in Hiruko, No Itachi health hype...he is considered to be full health with no disease and is at full vision with his MS..meaning no overuse of MS wank either.

[Akira Of Shiseiten]

Sasori > Itachi

Kisame > Kirabi

Kakuzu > Deidara

[321zigzag1]

So which heart is he missing?

Originally Posted by Akira Of Shiseiten

Sasori > Itachi

Kisame > Kirabi

Kakuzu > Deidara

Why not explain how this would play out instead of just posting less than or greater than symbols. Or is that too hard for you?

Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

So which heart is he missing?

I re-edited OP.

[321zigzag1]

In this location.

Deidara is the most likely the guy who is going to go to the air and try to clear the forest.

Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

In this location.

Deidara is the most likely the guy who is going to go to the air and try to clear the forest.

I doubt he would waste his time with that...he would take to the air and bomb...but not to clear the forest.

[Akira Of Shiseiten]

Sasori won't be affected by Genjutsu, Itachi has no counter for Iron Sand except for Susano which drains his life force.

Kakuzu can spam blast at Deidara.

Kisame use waterdome.

[321zigzag1]

Originally Posted by Jinchiruuki

I doubt he would waste his time with that...he would take to the air and bomb...but not to clear the forest.

But that fits with his style.

Unless he wants to play C1 peek a boo in the forest while running around.

Originally Posted by Akira Of Shiseiten

Sasori won't be affected by Genjutsu, Itachi has no counter for Iron Sand except for Susano which drains his life force.

Kakuzu can spam blast at Deidara.

Kisame use waterdome.

Look at distance then retry buddy. Kakuzu can't spam blast anything at 250 meters away...and Kisame would waste that water dome seeing as Itachi and KB would be able to react to it quick it enough if he did it from that far away. Sasori would still be affected by Amaterasu, Bombs, and KB's lightning stream, Lariat etc.

Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

But that fits with his style.

Unless he wants to play C1 peek a boo in the forest while running around.

Nonetheless...it's the forest of death...so Deidara clears a section then what?

[321zigzag1]

Originally Posted by Jinchiruuki

Look at distance then retry buddy. Kakuzu can't spam blast anything at 250 meters away...and Kisame would waste that water dome seeing as Itachi and KB would be able to react to it quick it enough if he did it from that far away. Sasori would still be affected by Amaterasu, Bombs, and KB's lightning stream, Lariat etc.


Nonetheless...it's the forest of death...so Deidara clears a section then what?

Actually Water Dome will affect his team mates too. And no Itachi and Killerbee isn't outrunning Water Dome either.


He clears more forcing his opponents in the open. And uses C4 blah blah.

Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

Actually Water Dome will affect his team mates too. And no Itachi and Killerbee isn't outrunning Water Dome either.


He clears more forcing his opponents in the open. And uses C4 blah blah.

How are they not outrunning Water Dome from 250 meters away?!

and yes they would affect his teammates.

You are not in the debating mood are you :P

[321zigzag1]

Originally Posted by Jinchiruuki

How are they not outrunning Water Dome from 250 meters away?!

and yes they would affect his teammates.

You are not in the debating mood are you :P

The water dome moves at Kisamehada speed think about it.

Yes.

Not right now. Of course I am more interested in technicalities than the outcome.

Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

The water dome moves at Kisamehada speed think about it.

Yes.

Not right now. Of course I am more interested in technicalities than the outcome.

No I understand the speed bro...but 250 meters away....not saying they would fully outrun it...but I am sure they could react accordingly.

Ahh fer sure..well I am heading to bed anyways.

[321zigzag1]

Originally Posted by Jinchiruuki

No I understand the speed bro...but 250 meters away....not saying they would fully outrun it...but I am sure they could react accordingly.

Ahh fer sure..well I am heading to bed anyways.

Kisamehada in the water was moving very massively that Killerbee who went Version 2 was still slower.

Sure Version 2 would be slower in the water than on land but the fact he went Version 2 is still significant.

They will not outun it for that long. Not to mention its mountain+ sphere anyway. So unless Deidara flew above and Hachibi mode comes out or Susanoo which is not proven it is airtight.

[Tourune]

Here's how i see it.
If Sasori poisons anyone on the right it's over, but the right side wins caz Deidara uses C4 to kill Kakuzu + KB uses 7 tails version 2 Larit to kill Sasori. but Kisame kills KB. So then Itachi uses Amatarasu to burn Kisame. then he sword fuses. Deidara uses C3 Kisame jumps up then Sasunoo sword slash.

i like this thread thow

[Tourune]

Originally Posted by Akira Of Shiseiten

Sasori < Itachi

Kisame > Kirabi

Kakuzu > Deidara

Itachi can use Amatarasu + Sasunoo u know

[Wooster]

Alright, I'll bite. There's so many conditions here my heads about to explode.

I will assume that even though they are in the Forest of Death and 250 m away. Everyone generally knows where the others are. Maybe not that realistic given how thick the forest of death is, but what the who.

I think Kisame must be the one that goes after Killer Bee his chakra absorbing powers are a must for him. Since you said no full transformation. I think we can predict the outcome of this battle just using the cannon manga, Kisame wins by a hair.

I think since they know each other so well, Sasori will fight Deidara. Deidara has the great advantage though diminished in a forest with his long range attacks. Sasori needs to ditch Hiruko ASAP and at least move in with the Kazukage puppet if not himself. I will leave this match-up for the moment.

Itachi vs. Kakuzu, hmm.. I assume Kakuzu can use his other hearts to stop genjutsu. Then it's a matter of four vs. one. Again hard to tell in a forest, Itchi's pretty fast and has ameratsu but again four vs. one.

I think moving forward further with the last two one-on-one matchups is pointless because they are not one-on-one. Therefore, having Kisame on your side is a great advantage. He can essentially flood the opponents side with water.

Once Killerbee is down, Kisame and the boys have the advantage. Sure Itachi may fry a few of them with ameratsu, but Kakuzu many hearts comes into play here. Really only Deidara is long range on side two and limited with the forest. Kisame massive water attacks and the mid-to-long range abilities of both Kakuzu and Sasori should eventually win this battle.

Well, that's what I think.

[Bacon]

This match up would be long and ardious to me. I would find that any slip up,changes in leadership, and how well each team works together will decide the outcome here.
Since one on one fights limits the match up too much, and considering the handicaps on diedara and Killerbee. I will break down each how each fight would turn out in my opinion by having each fighter from team 1(Kukazu, Kisame and Sasori) and pit them against each fighter from the opposing team.

Location: Considering that this is the forest of death, unless the two teams are fighting in an open area; Deidara's advantage from the sky is automatically cut in half becuase of the trees.
Kukazu

Spoiler:

Kukazu under these circumstances is serverely weakened becuase now he doesn't have his almost omnipetent earth chakra. This would mean that going up againist he would have to rely on his tentacles and festering appendages to fight. His ability to still wield all four chakra elements, and even combine with more than one will give him an edge againist all three of his opponent.

Kukazu versus Killerbee: Kukazu has a strong enough Taijutsu to hold his own against Kakashi and his sharingan. His wind minion thing that acts as his heart as well could prove trouble some for Killerbee's lightning chakra, and the spamming of his combined missile attacks could prove fatal at a medium range.

Kukuazu's weakness however is the fact that there is ample cover in the forest of death, and Killerbee can use this to pick off a few of his hearts. Kukazu's is slow in his combined form, and the whole flying thing will not help him in the least becaause Killerbee can use the trees to come from above.

Kukazu versus Deidara: Since deidara is powerful enough to evade the combined assault of Team Gai; Kukazu would have a hard time fighting diedara. He would have his lightning chakra to make Deidara's earth chakra null and void. This is only true if he can figure this out. Deidara's puppet attack is no good in the wierd setting of the forest of death, and he can't fly as well either. However, if deidara used his small anti personal clay spiders.Kukazu has one thing that saves him from Deidara, and that's the lack of room to fly. If kukazu is smart, he can stop his opponent from escaping and make c4 an impossiblitly.

The explosive power of C2 and C3 are deadly at the long ranges. Deidara can wield them, and the many flying beasts he can make to fire long range missle attacks(made of clay xD) would only have the weakness of being a sitting target.

Kukazu versus Itachi: I doubt he would have been able to match Itachi's taijutsu. I won't even mention the whole genjutsu thing simply becuase it is hax, and would kill all his opponents. So I am simply going to base this anaylisis on itachi's powers. Itachi is fast enough to dodge lightning, which is 1/1000th of a second? This means that at full health, he could make Kukazu's artillary useless, and even overpower him with ametersu up close.

Kukazu would only have a chance here with help from a teammate.
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Kukazu can beat Deidara in a confined enviroment.
He loses against Killer bee questionably.
He loses against Itachi in close range combat.

Sasori

Spoiler:

Sasori has a wide range of powers from what I can tell. His Iron sand is one of his most versatile assets, and can be molded to fit his needs. His Hiruko is a great defense against genjutsu, and it can attack several different ways.

Sasori versus Killerbee: Sasori would have the element of Suprise if he fights as Hiurko first. His surprise attacks could prove useful if he can posion Killerbee early on.
If hiruko is destroyed, he cannot rely on massive objects becuase Killer bee is much faster than Sakura. Using the Kakzekage and his Iron sand would nearly kill Killer bee in close range. The fact that if can randomly shift to cover a large area fast, and the all that poison would make a short range attack suicidal.

Sasori's weaknesses however are evident because Killerbee has more than enough power with his nature mainipulation to penetrate Hiruko for an instant win. Assuming this is not the case, Killer bee also has is a master of taijutsu, and with a partial coat from his own biju; that could prove trouble some for Sasori if he can't kill kIller with the Iron sand.

Sasori versus deidara: Seeing that both fighters know each other well, Diedara would once again not be able to use c4,but his long range abilities trump Hiruko easily. Even when Sasori is not in Hiroku, the long range missle attacks of deidara would prove fatal if they were in an open area.


Sasori would need to take advantage of his puppetry and use masive objects to try and crush Deidara. He could also use his iron sand as a defense. Honestly, I am at a loss here becuase I know Sasori and deidara were partnered up together becuase neither can easily kill eachother.

Sasori versus Itachi: I would ahve to assume that Itachi could not put Sasori under a genjutsu readily, so he would ahve to resort to his sharingan powers. The aspect of ametersu on hiruko could prove fatal to Sasori, and the wide range of fire style attacks give Itachi a wide scope of methods to bring hiruko down. Now then, when matched with iron sand, and when Sasori has to resort to fighting himself; Itachi's own expertise in taijutsu, and Susano would beat iron sand.

I would say that Sasori's only chance would revolve around itachi over using his eyes, and using forcing him to expend a large ammount of chakra.

Sasori argueably
loses against killer bee
loses against Itachi
draws with Deidara.

Kisame, I cannot comment on him right now because I have yet to read his fight with Killerbee. I will read up on him later, but I have an exam, so i can't think anymores. xD However It would seem to me that he could beat
Killerbee.
argueably beat Diedara.
and lose to Itachi.

[prasanth]

Originally Posted by Akira Of Shiseiten

Sasori > Itachi

Kisame > Kirabi

Kakuzu > Deidara

Team A takes this with relative ease, kakuzu will go toe-to-toe with KB unless he uses the hachibi. deidara will get destroyed by sasori and itachi can beat kisame, but then sasori and kakuzu can double team itachi and win