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Old 05-06-2010, 06:03 PM   #21
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Lee's running speed is faster than Neji's, but opening Gates severely damages Lee's body. And he has been shown to only stay in it for a short period of time. Neji's striking speed is a lot faster than Lee's. Neji would definitely hit Lee if he got close. Lee's Taijutsu focuses on power hits to break bones, which are fast but not faster than Neji's. Neji's Taijutsu focuses on quick, precise hits to the chakra network, which is a lot faster. Therefore, I do not think Lee could dodge Neji's attacks so easily. Now, if Lee does open any Gates, Neji would be in trouble.
Supersonic Lee can't dodge a 200 MPH+ Neji and his attacks?

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Anyways, Lee speedblitzes easily in Gates.
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Lee's running speed is faster than Neji's, but opening Gates severely damages Lee's body. And he has been shown to only stay in it for a short period of time. Neji's striking speed is a lot faster than Lee's. Neji would definitely hit Lee if he got close. Lee's Taijutsu focuses on power hits to break bones, which are fast but not faster than Neji's. Neji's Taijutsu focuses on quick, precise hits to the chakra network, which is a lot faster. Therefore, I do not think Lee could dodge Neji's attacks so easily. Now, if Lee does open any Gates, Neji would be in trouble.
Lee could blitz and take down Neji before he runs out of time in gates, he stayed in gates for quite a bit of time while he bypassed Gaara's sand at that time, if his body's damaged he can still fight, he managed to escape sand coffin still, after entering five gates.

What was that quote, that thing Kakashi said? "What?! He can still move, let alone stand up?!" Something like that.
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It showed Lee constantly losing to him in flashbacks. He didn't win once. Please use factual information.
Did it show any earlier part of the fight, when actual feats could have been taken? No.


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It all depends if Lee can enter Gates before Neji can strike him down.

Once he's entered them Neji is doomed due to superior Speed and Power.

Even if he has Byakugan and can see Lee,it doesnt mean he can react to him.

I only see Neji standing against him in Base.

With his weights off I'm not sure.
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Where any of the battles ever fully viewed or at least halfway? No.

Lee and or Neji had only stated that they considered each other to be rivals and had fought numerous times in the past.



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I don't see how Neji's going to be able to react to a Supersonic Lee.
Lee is fast, but Neji has way better defenses.

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Lee has improved greatly. He probably trains twice as much as Neji.
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It all depends if Lee can enter Gates before Neji can strike him down.

Once he's entered them Neji is doomed due to superior Speed and Power.

Even if he has Byakugan and can see Lee,it doesnt mean he can react to him.

I only see Neji standing against him in Base.

With his weights off I'm not sure.
Rotation.

Neji can react to what he sees. He "blitzes" anyone when he activates 64 Palms. His movements are so fast that they are a blur. Literally. So clearly, Neji isn't that slow.
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Lee has improved greatly. He probably trains twice as much as Neji.
That wasn't my point. Shikamaru was using false information, so I had to bring that up. Anyway, Lee does train much more than Neji, and he always did. But Neji has natural abilities that he's easily honed.
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Rotation.

Neji can react to what he sees. He "blitzes" anyone when he activates 64 Palms. His movements are so fast that they are a blur. Literally. So clearly, Neji isn't that slow.
So you're telling me, if you see a large missile being fired at you at point blank, then you can react to it without being blasted in the face by it?

Just because you can see it doesn't mean you can automatically react properly to it. Also, I'm doubting Neji can even see a Supersonic Lee.

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So has Neji, but we can't base it all on assumptions. The basic fact is, Lee in Gates will blitz Neji. Neji has the best chance of winning if Lee's in Base.
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Supersonic Lee can't dodge a 200 MPH+ Neji and his attacks?

...The hell happened to this place? I am not pleased, so no cookies for you, mister!

Anyways, Lee speedblitzes easily in Gates.
Lee's running speed has shown to be great, that is not equivalent to dodging speed and reaction time.
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Don't get off topic. If you feel you will, please leave.

Bottom line is, a fist can't break Rotation. And you're forgetting the extreme vulnerability of one who opens the Gates. If Lee were to smash into Neji's Rotation in his vulnerable state, there's a good chance he'd die.
You're kidding? Stop asking me to leave, it wasn't off topic, you only countered a bit of my post and it makes it seem like you can't debate with it.

So if Naruto's kunai slash would have failed, he would have died? Nice, anytime rotation deflects something the thing it reflects dies. Wow, Rotation is such a hax technique.

Since when is Lee vulnerable in gates? I thought it increased his power, apparently not. His power>>>Kunai slashes, Neji's rotation couldn't do crap, and that's when we're assuming he can put up a rotation before he gets blasted into the ground.

We're talking about the same Lee, right? The one who ripped tree roots out of the ground with his bare hands?
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Supersonic Lee can't dodge a 200 MPH+ Neji and his attacks?

...The hell happened to this place? I am not pleased, so no cookies for you, mister!


Anyways, Lee speedblitzes easily in Gates.



You haven't proved yourself with factual information, and you're disregarding everyones' words if they don't comply with your beliefs. Please leave.
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You're kidding? Stop asking me to leave, it wasn't off topic, you only countered a bit of my post and it makes it seem like you can't debate with it.

So if Naruto's kunai slash would have failed, he would have died? Nice, anytime rotation deflects something the thing it reflects dies. Wow, Rotation is such a hax technique.

Since when is Lee vulnerable in gates? I thought it increased his power, apparently not. His power>>>Kunai slashes, Neji's rotation couldn't do crap, and that's when we're assuming he can put up a rotation before he gets blasted into the ground.


We're talking about the same Lee, right? The one who ripped tree roots out of the ground with his bare hands?
I was referring to Lee in his ultra-vulnerable state. It was explained in Part 1 that opening Gates puts incredible strain on a persons' body. If Lee were to smash into something that would only worsen the situation, there's a good chance he would die.
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Rotation.

Neji can react to what he sees. He "blitzes" anyone when he activates 64 Palms. His movements are so fast that they are a blur. Literally. So clearly, Neji isn't that slow.
Rotation is useless when Neji hasnt shown to be able to react to the Speed of Gated Lee.

He gets hit before he can use it.

Seeing =/= Movement Speed.
I see a Person coming at me.Can I dodge it although that Person is MUCH faster than me?

Besides this post proves your a Neji Fanboy by saying he blitzes anyone.
Neji blitzing KB or Raikage?
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Lee is fast, but Neji has way better defenses.
Right, he has way better defenses, Lee survived sand coffin how many times now? He was up and fighting again after his arm and leg were smashed, so he took some medicine. I fear seeing Neji after that fight.
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Rotation.

Neji can react to what he sees. He "blitzes" anyone when he activates 64 Palms. His movements are so fast that they are a blur. Literally. So clearly, Neji isn't that slow.
Lee can move faster than the eye can see. Much faster. You don't think Lee's entire body is a blur? Reaction speed and reflex speed are different anyway, I don't know if anyone said Neji was that slow, but clearly Lee is much faster.
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It all depends if Lee can enter Gates before Neji can strike him down.

Once he's entered them Neji is doomed due to superior Speed and Power.

Even if he has Byakugan and can see Lee,it doesnt mean he can react to him.

I only see Neji standing against him in Base.

With his weights off I'm not sure.



Chapter?



Besides back then Lee didnt have Gates.

During the Chunin Exams.
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Lee's running speed has shown to be great, that is not equivalent to dodging speed and reaction time.
Your reaction time is usually near your movement speed. Also, dodging speed equals movement speed with reaction timing.

I am amused how someone made this thread a bunch of Neji Wankers arrive like a storm.

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You haven't proved yourself with factual information, and you're disregarding everyones' words if they don't comply with your beliefs. Please leave.
I am amused at how you pretend to cover it up with a plea for me to leave after you having realized that you can't counter my post.

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Rotation is useless when Neji hasnt shown to be able to react to the Speed of Gated Lee.

He gets hit before he can use it.

Seeing =/= Movement Speed.
I see a Person coming at me.Can I dodge it although that Person is MUCH faster than me?

Besides this post proves your a Neji Fanboy by saying he blitzes anyone.
Neji blitzing KB or Raikage?
Well, he has the almighty Byakugan eyes, which enables him to see and react to anything and everything.
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Right, he has way better defenses, Lee survived sand coffin how many times now? He was up and fighting again after his arm and leg were smashed, so he took some medicine. I fear seeing Neji after that fight.

Lee can move faster than the eye can see. Much faster. You don't think Lee's entire body is a blur? Reaction speed and reflex speed are different anyway, I don't know if anyone said Neji was that slow, but clearly Lee is much faster.



That's not defense, that's endurance. By the way, Neji was stabbed in the back six times and shot through-and-through with an arrow three times when he fought Kidomaru.

Have you ever seen Neji perform 64 Palms? You seem rather naive of the subject.
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Right, he has way better defenses, Lee survived sand coffin how many times now? He was up and fighting again after his arm and leg were smashed, so he took some medicine. I fear seeing Neji after that fight.

Lee can move faster than the eye can see. Much faster. You don't think Lee's entire body is a blur? Reaction speed and reflex speed are different anyway, I don't know if anyone said Neji was that slow, but clearly Lee is much faster.
Lee was unconscious when Gaara used Sand Coffin to crush his arm and leg.
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Default Re: Neji vs Lee

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Originally Posted by Nagato>Naruto View Post
I was referring to Lee in his ultra-vulnerable state. It was explained in Part 1 that opening Gates puts incredible strain on a persons' body. If Lee were to smash into something that would only worsen the situation, there's a good chance he would die.
What about the tree roots? Oh wait, let me counter for you. No way could Neji be harmed by someone that powerful, of course not.

It puts an incredible strain on them after they've exited Gates, during gates all your powers are heightened. Something that can't withstand a kunai slash can do that much damage to Lee during gates?

If he attacks rotation, and Neji can react and everything's cool, he'll just get sent back, Lee's known to be fast on his feet, Neji can't spam rotation all day long.

Although I like how small and counter-able your posts are.

One more thing, if you tell me what I say is off-topic, you shouldn't. At least my post contributes to the debate in some way, one part tries to get you to counter my post, lets say its off topic. Like I said, it's not all I say purposely for a post count +1 or anything.
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