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Old 04-08-2010, 01:13 PM   #21
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Remember Neji's defense sends the energy back at the attacker. So Naruto would just be blasted away. Yamato was there for Nine Tails wouldn't get out of control not that Naruto couldn't use the chakra. Secondly, one Odama rasengan competely wipes Naruto out, so if it fails he is through. I assume it would fail because it's still a pretty slow attack, Neji should be able to dodge or block it.

Truely if Naruto has no jinchuriki powers he shouldn't be able to heal himself either, but that's hard to separate out because it's automatic.

Neji obviously must have grown because before he failed the chunin exams and now he is a jonin. I think we can assume Neji's skills have at least kept apace with Naruto's nonsage mode skills.

Naruto loses, but it's not like Naruto is weaker than Neji. It just that these are some severe restrictions.
Once again, I agree. If Naruto did not have these restrictions, Naruto would easily defeat Neji, but since he does, Neji would prove victor.
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Give me one good tanking feat of rotaion.
Giant Rasengan: made big boom VS 30% Itachi
Rasen-shurken: took out kakuzu, remaining of his hearts and everything within a good 80meters into nothing but barren land and left a whole so FRS is diffidently gonna penetrate neji's sucky rotation.
At least at that point Naruto used jinchuriki powers, see his eyes. Therefore, Naruto can't use a rasenshuriken of that power or perhaps at all.

I do think rasenshuriken would break Neji defense though, but again Naruto can't use it so loss.

Giant Rasengan is more iffy, but it's slow and perhaps requires the jinchuriki powers, too.
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I don't know why everyone is saying Naruto is slower then Neji in base, hes either just as fast or slightly faster.

Clone spams leaves Neji open for Naruto to use Rasengan, Giant Rasengan, or even Rasen Shuriken if he wants him to get it over with quickly.

Naruto has shown feats to use Rasen Shuriken without SM or Kyuubi powers. Against Kakuzu he used it to defeat him so you guys didn't even need to look that far back in the series to know that.

Rasen Shuriken can't get through rotation? Rotation is pure chakra, all Naruto needs to do is use Giant Rasengan to disperse it then catch Neji off gaurd in between rotations with a Rasen Shuriken, GG.
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Remember Neji's defense sends the energy back at the attacker. So Naruto would just be blasted away. Yamato was there for Nine Tails wouldn't get out of control not that Naruto couldn't use the chakra. Secondly, one Odama rasengan competely wipes Naruto out, so if it fails he is through. I assume it would fail because it's still a pretty slow attack, Neji should be able to dodge or block it.

Truely if Naruto has no jinchuriki powers he shouldn't be able to heal himself either, but that's hard to separate out because it's automatic.

Neji obviously must have grown because before he failed the chunin exams and now he is a jonin. I think we can assume Neji's skills have at least kept apace with Naruto's nonsage mode skills.

Naruto loses, but it's not like Naruto is weaker than Neji. It just that these are some severe restrictions.
the only real restriction is sage mode as summons help you in a losing battle and jinchuriki power is not actually naruto is it
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Rasen Shuriken can not be used without Sage Mode people! Read my earlier post.
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He can.

He wasn't even leaking Kyuubi chakra out. Yes his eyes did take form of the Kyuubi but it was only used to get it started because he was out of chakra from training to use that attack. During the aftermath you could see that he no longer had the Kyuubi eyes.

He infact can, it just takes a big toll on his arm which is why hes limited to one a fight.
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Yes it can, but it's the crappy verison and it probably requires jinchuriki powers at least. So for all intents and purposes it's out. But why not edit your first post and just explicitly ban it.
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He can.

He wasn't even leaking Kyuubi chakra out. Yes his eyes did take form of the Kyuubi but it was only used to get it started because he was out of chakra from training to use that attack. During the aftermath you could see that he no longer had the Kyuubi eyes.

He infact can, it just takes a big toll on his arm which is why hes limited to one a fight.
He used it one time against Kakuzu and it shattered his arm! That is why it is forbidden. He can not use it unless he wants to break his arm.
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He can.

He wasn't even leaking Kyuubi chakra out. Yes his eyes did take form of the Kyuubi but it was only used to get it started because he was out of chakra from training to use that attack. During the aftermath you could see that he no longer had the Kyuubi eyes.

He infact can, it just takes a big toll on his arm which is why hes limited to one a fight.
If Naruto's eyes change, he is using jinchuriki powers. Now it was different, but to go into that is speculation and requires spoilers.
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He used it one time against Kakuzu and it shattered his arm! That is why it is forbidden. He can not use it unless he wants to break his arm.
He only needs to use it once ....

The OP doesn't state state of mind so we can go by assumption that hes bloodlusted.

One FRS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Neji

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And what if he misses or Neji shuts off his chakra? I would hope Naruto would not take such a risky attempt.
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I don't know why everyone is saying Naruto is slower then Neji in base, hes either just as fast or slightly faster.

Clone spams leaves Neji open for Naruto to use Rasengan, Giant Rasengan, or even Rasen Shuriken if he wants him to get it over with quickly.

Naruto has shown feats to use Rasen Shuriken without SM or Kyuubi powers. Against Kakuzu he used it to defeat him so you guys didn't even need to look that far back in the series to know that.

Rasen Shuriken can't get through rotation? Rotation is pure chakra, all Naruto needs to do is use Giant Rasengan to disperse it then catch Neji off gaurd in between rotations with a Rasen Shuriken, GG.
Did this not explain enough for you? ...
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If we are down to whether Naruto can or can't use RasenShuriken or will or will not hit, this thread is dead because that is all speculation.

I think we all agree rasenshuriken beats Neji's defense, but how can anyone tell if he hits or not? Of course, I think the listed retrictions alreasy preclude the rasenshuriken use.
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I don't know why everyone is saying Naruto is slower then Neji in base, hes either just as fast or slightly faster.

Clone spams leaves Neji open for Naruto to use Rasengan, Giant Rasengan, or even Rasen Shuriken if he wants him to get it over with quickly.

Naruto has shown feats to use Rasen Shuriken without SM or Kyuubi powers. Against Kakuzu he used it to defeat him so you guys didn't even need to look that far back in the series to know that.

Rasen Shuriken can't get through rotation? Rotation is pure chakra, all Naruto needs to do is use Giant Rasengan to disperse it then catch Neji off gaurd in between rotations with a Rasen Shuriken, GG.
Naruto is fast, but not faster than Neji. Remember, Neji's Eight Trigram Palm Rotation takes the chakra from the user inflicting the damage and repels it against Neji's opponent. Without Sage Mode, The Kyuubi or Summons, Neji would drill Naruto into the ground.
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Naruto is fast, but not faster than Neji. Remember, Neji's Eight Trigram Palm Rotation takes the chakra from the user inflicting the damage and repels it against Neji's opponent. Without Sage Mode, The Kyuubi or Summons, Neji would drill Naruto into the ground.
Neji is definitely not faster then Naruto.

Massive clone spam stops Neji from getting to Naruto.

In between use of his rotation Naruto drills him with any variant of Rasengan.

I'm sorry if this offend you Kazumi, but Neji Fan boys/girls are the worst.
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Neji is definitely not faster then Naruto.

Massive clone spam stops Neji from getting to Naruto.

In between use of his rotation Naruto drills him with any variant of Rasengan.

I'm sorry if this offend you Kazumi, but Neji Fan boys/girls are the worst.
There is no definite way to know if Neji or Naruto is faster. All we do know is that Neji was significantly faster during the chunin exams. So if their skills advances at the same pace Neji is still faster.

Neji can probably knock out the clones quickly using 64 plams, air plam or rotation. The clones are not a threat to him. Also, I don't think Naruto can have that many clones witthout using some jinchuriki powers, let's say 50 max.

Can 50 clones distract Neji enough that he can hit Neji with a Odama rasengan? Maybe. However, if Nartuo misses and /or Neji can defend against it, Naruto loses right there.

I don't think any lesser rasengan has any chance against Neji's defense because really they are very similar. If Neji at any point stops Naruto's chakra again Naruto is toast.

So weighing all of that, Naruto loses.
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Neji is definitely not faster then Naruto.

Massive clone spam stops Neji from getting to Naruto.

In between use of his rotation Naruto drills him with any variant of Rasengan.

I'm sorry if this offend you Kazumi, but Neji Fan boys/girls are the worst.
Give me an example of when Naruto showed greater speed feats than Neji. When Neji and Naruto fought, Naruto could barely keep up with Neji. Clone after clone, Neji took them out, one after another. Numbers does not match Speed. With Neji's mastery of chakra control and the Gentle Fist Taijutsu, Naruto would not stand a chance. Naruto is a close range fighter just like Neji. Hand to hand combat, Neji overpowers Naruto at least double.

The only reason Neji would beat Naruto is because of so much being restricted. Otherwise, Naruto would be the one drilling Neji into the ground.

Oh really? And why is that? Any fan of a character will defend their character when they know they are correct.
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Give me an example of when Naruto showed greater speed feats than Neji.

When Neji and Naruto fought, Naruto could barely keep up with Neji. Clone after clone, Neji took them out, one after another. Numbers does not match Speed. With Neji's mastery of chakra control and the Gentle Fist Taijutsu, Naruto would not stand a chance. Naruto is a close range fighter just like Neji. Hand to hand combat, Neji overpowers Naruto at least double.
Handling Kakuzu with Rasenshuriken while Neji was caught in Water Prison from 30% Kisame.
Kakuzu and Hidan were well able to keep up with Kakashi.
Or hitting Deva with a Rasengan but I'm not sure if he had SM on or not.

That was 3 years ago.Using Pre Feats for Shippuden?Oh well.

Neji has yet to show that Rotation can defend from Oodama Rasengan or Rasenshuriken.
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Handling Kakuzu with Rasenshuriken while Neji was caught in Water Prison from 30% Kisame.
Kakuzu and Hidan were well able to keep up with Kakashi.

That was 3 years ago.Using Pre Feats for Shippuden?Oh well.

Neji has yet to show that Rotation can defend from Oodama Rasengan or Rasenshuriken.
Naruto is unable to use Rasen Shuriken in this battle.

I still do not think Naruto is faster than Neji. Three posts above, the user stated "There is no definite way to know if Neji or Naruto is faster. All we do know is that Neji was significantly faster during the chunin exams. So if their skills advances at the same pace Neji is still faster." I totally agree. Neji is a Jounin even though he failed the Chunin Exams. I think Neji could keep up with Kakashi.
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Kakuzu and Hidan were well able to keep up with Kakashi.
Or hitting Deva with a Rasengan.

That was 3 years ago.Using Pre Feats for Shippuden?Oh well.

Neji has yet to show that Rotation can defend from Oodama Rasengan or Rasenshuriken.
Kisame is a beast. 30% may be more powerful than Kakuzu. Not to mention Naruto used jinchuriki powers against Kakuzu.

Deva is a good point that might surprise Neji, but to turn around what you said: Has Naruto shown that regular rasengan can defeat Neji's rotation?
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