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Old 04-04-2010, 03:40 AM   #1
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One thing about the last 200 or so chapters that I don't like. Remember how in the beginning of the series, Kishi often focused on giving almost every character in Naruto a piece of the spotlight?

People like Rock Lee became household names in the Naruto universe, often getting 2-3 episodes in a row, just of themselves. He built up the stories of every semi-major character in naruto, most notably during the Chunin Exams.

ESPECIALLY the villains. Almost every opponent that Naruto and his team had to overcome, had a backstory explained, sometimes in great detail. Examples being Neji, Gaara, Sakura/Ino, Itachi, Orochimaru, Zabuza and Haku....

Then came Shippuden. Sasori had a few lines about his lineage. Deidara got one backflash where Itachi whooped him without moving. Kakuzy-face, nothing. Hidan, nothing. Kisame, nothing. Now these are not major villains to the series itself, but to the chapters they were in, they were very major. Even if a villain was only around 3 episodes in the Pre-Ship days, they had some story explained.

Even people not classified as villains, Juugo, Suigetsu, Karin(who finally had one scene of her past, meeting sasuke). Killer Bee, the other Kages, need I go on?

Pain was the only new character we really got deep insight with. Itachi as well, but he was already a major part of the series. Madara... his mystery adds to his mystique, so he's ok.

But still, does anyone catch my drift here? And the characters that were once important, are now just completely useless.

They built up Sai and Yamato so much, to just completely drop all their major involvement in the series. Yamato especially... I was extremely interested in his back story, and after the first encounter with Sasuke in Shippuden, he just became Kakashi's backup. H8.

Rock Lee doesn't do a damn thing anymore, except get knocked out by Sakura.

Same for Kiba. Used his nose a couple times.

Ino suddenly became a medical ninja, basically making her into Sakura's double, something she was ABSOLUTELY NOT during the Chunin Exams, Lazy move Kishi.

Shino helped scent somebody out.....that's about it.

Hinata wasn't at all in the last 250 chapters, and suddenly came out of nowhere to confess her love to Naruto, in a manner that seems totally insignificant since Naruto still hasn't once acknowledged she exists since then. Perhaps a little build up first, or even some closing, kishi?

Guy got some time in the Kisame fight, fell off the face of the earth.

Neji... we all love Neji. Neji doesn't exist.


Really, the ONLY of the rookie 9, or even of all the semi-major characters from original series, to have an important role in this juncture, is Shikamaru. I'm glad for that, at least.

Well... you guys get my point. Am I alone here in noticing this, and not liking it?

I love Sasuke, I do... but even I'M sick of Sasuke at this point.

I am now changing the name of the anime to Sasuke Shippuden.
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Old 04-04-2010, 03:44 AM   #2
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i agree with all of this. i miss rock lee the most

hopefully with the war coming up we will see a lot more of the original konoha genin
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Totally agree, but at least the war is coming up, so hopefully it won't revolve around Sasuke anymore >.>
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It's not only those fact that pulls away people from being interested or wanting to stay to watch naruto or naruto shippuuden still. It's the fact that Naruto and Naruto shippuuden has been a lot of filler and the fact that it is an old anime now.

It's true too, that Sasuke and Naruto is mostly getting mainly the attention over the series. It's mainly involving Sasuke as a villian. I do too believe that Kishimoto will end the Naruto series soon since Kishimoto hasn't created new villain characters in Naruto shippuuden yet. Therefore, I have a feeling he may be ending Naruto series soon. Sad but story is getting a bit boring for people, and kishmoto may be tired or have lost ideas to continue on his Naruto series.
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It's not only those fact that pulls away people from being interested or wanting to stay to watch naruto or naruto shippuuden still. It's the fact that Naruto and Naruto shippuuden has been a lot of filler and the fact that it is an old anime now.

It's true too, that Sasuke and Naruto is mostly getting mainly the attention over the series. It's mainly involving Sasuke as a villian. I do too believe that Kishimoto will end the Naruto series soon since Kishimoto hasn't created new villain characters in Naruto shippuuden yet. Therefore, I have a feeling he may be ending Naruto series soon. Sad but story is getting a bit boring for people, and kishmoto may be tired or have lost ideas to continue on his Naruto series.
About ending it soon, yeah not going to happen. Kishi himself said there's still a lot of story to tell and that if he needs two years to do it, he will do it. But, he needs to start giving his characters screen time.
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About ending it soon, yeah not going to happen. Kishi himself said there's still a lot of story to tell and that if he needs two years to do it, he will do it. But, he needs to start giving his characters screen time.
Oh really. Well let hope and see if kishimoto will be able to pull it all together. From my look of it now, it looks like it's about to end. Since most Akatsuki died and Orochimaru.
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Hopefully if a war it will be an excuse for Kishimoto to have guys like Rock Lee fight again.
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I agree completely. I really want to see some of the other characters have some screen time. I was hoping that Kiba and Lee would get some screen time after they joined up with Sakura, but she just used those whatever they are and made they fall asleep. Naruto and Sasuke has been hogging all the screen time.
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I totally agree with you TheBlackChidori especially with the ino suddenly became a medical ninja thing, i hope kish starts giving the older characters some spotlight most of them are my favorites, anko might be getting some spotlight soon if she doesnt so help me kish
BTW- Ankos meant to be kish favorite character or girl character and if she doesnt get no spotlight then he's just stubid
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Hopefully maybe kishi has been holding of the characters for the war so we can see some hella awsome fights with move we havnt seen yet?????
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Theory; We get Akatsuki backstories and other characters backstories during the war. Suigetsu and Jugo have been captured, I bet we'll get something from them eventually. Kisame hasn't died in a long time, if he doesn't get a backstory I'll be shocked. Deidara will probably attack his own village, I wouldn't be surprised to get a backstory for both him and one of Onoki's bodyguards. And a good fight, too. Kabuto is now one of the major villains of the series, and the major villains always get some type of backstory.
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I agree that those characters don`t get enough screentime. I also agree that all its been about is naruto and sasuke. Its like kishi doesn`t care for the other characters that haven`t gotten much or no screentime at all. I hope we get to see a lot more of them in the upcoming war.
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There's too many new characters now, old ones a rejected and new ones like killer Bee's students pop out of nowhere then characters we didn't know exist make an alliance and a war starts.
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Because in the beginning the story was not developed so it was more like a soap opera with fillers. Sure side characters are important but at this stage I really can not care less about reading one of them's background. I am really happy that Naruto did not turned into a filler fest like Bleach...

At this stage of the story it is better to see main story related events rahter then side stories. I'm enjoying Naruto much more for the last year and I think it is going to end in a year or so.
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These characters are too liked to be discarded just like that. I know Shippuden is supposed to revolve around the relationship between Naruto and Sasuke, but all the minor characters have too big of a fan base.
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These characters are too liked to be discarded just like that. I know Shippuden is supposed to revolve around the relationship between Naruto and Sasuke, but all the minor characters have too big of a fan base.
And personally am getting tired of broke back konoha. Naruto needs to kill sasuke and stoip winning about some1 who has tried to kill him atleast 3 times
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I have to disagree, what we have to remember is the story is based around Naruto and his life and for the most part those side characters aren't in his life. Lets not forget to mention that with a story like Naruto there are sooooo many characters coming and going and to build on them would take forever and only lead Kishi away from the original storyline which if you were to ask pretty much any serious writer it's the worst possible thing you could do.

Lets look back to the end of the original Naruto anime it was pretty much all about building up those "side" characters and all anybody did was whine about fillers so either way it's a lose-lose for Kishi. I know A LOT of people love those side characters more so then they love the main characters but at the end of the day that doesn't really matter, they are SIDE characters for a reason and should stay as such.
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One thing about the last 200 or so chapters that I don't like. Remember how in the beginning of the series, Kishi often focused on giving almost every character in Naruto a piece of the spotlight?

People like Rock Lee became household names in the Naruto universe, often getting 2-3 episodes in a row, just of themselves. He built up the stories of every semi-major character in naruto, most notably during the Chunin Exams.

ESPECIALLY the villains. Almost every opponent that Naruto and his team had to overcome, had a backstory explained, sometimes in great detail. Examples being Neji, Gaara, Sakura/Ino, Itachi, Orochimaru, Zabuza and Haku....

Then came Shippuden. Sasori had a few lines about his lineage. Deidara got one backflash where Itachi whooped him without moving. Kakuzy-face, nothing. Hidan, nothing. Kisame, nothing. Now these are not major villains to the series itself, but to the chapters they were in, they were very major. Even if a villain was only around 3 episodes in the Pre-Ship days, they had some story explained.

Even people not classified as villains, Juugo, Suigetsu, Karin(who finally had one scene of her past, meeting sasuke). Killer Bee, the other Kages, need I go on?

Pain was the only new character we really got deep insight with. Itachi as well, but he was already a major part of the series. Madara... his mystery adds to his mystique, so he's ok.

But still, does anyone catch my drift here? And the characters that were once important, are now just completely useless.

They built up Sai and Yamato so much, to just completely drop all their major involvement in the series. Yamato especially... I was extremely interested in his back story, and after the first encounter with Sasuke in Shippuden, he just became Kakashi's backup. H8.

Rock Lee doesn't do a damn thing anymore, except get knocked out by Sakura.

Same for Kiba. Used his nose a couple times.

Ino suddenly became a medical ninja, basically making her into Sakura's double, something she was ABSOLUTELY NOT during the Chunin Exams, Lazy move Kishi.

Shino helped scent somebody out.....that's about it.

Hinata wasn't at all in the last 250 chapters, and suddenly came out of nowhere to confess her love to Naruto, in a manner that seems totally insignificant since Naruto still hasn't once acknowledged she exists since then. Perhaps a little build up first, or even some closing, kishi?

Guy got some time in the Kisame fight, fell off the face of the earth.

Neji... we all love Neji. Neji doesn't exist.


Really, the ONLY of the rookie 9, or even of all the semi-major characters from original series, to have an important role in this juncture, is Shikamaru. I'm glad for that, at least.

Well... you guys get my point. Am I alone here in noticing this, and not liking it?

I love Sasuke, I do... but even I'M sick of Sasuke at this point.

I am now changing the name of the anime to Sasuke Shippuden.
i agree with what you say but i must point out that shino has fought madara a little and choji has got a good amount of fighting. i still want yamato and sai to do something as well, like fight, since they've had very little in the way of that.(although more than other old characters). now that the wars about to start and the akatsukis ressurected it would be a good time to resolve a few of these problems. i also think sai and yamato should get some kind of arc to themselves before the war starts though.
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i agree with what you say but i must point out that shino has fought madara a little and choji has got a good amount of fighting. i still want yamato and sai to do something as well, like fight, since they've had very little in the way of that.(although more than other old characters). now that the wars about to start and the akatsukis ressurected it would be a good time to resolve a few of these problems. i also think sai and yamato should get some kind of arc to themselves before the war starts though.
1. Whhaaaa? Shino fought Madara?
2. Whhaaaa? Choji was in a fight?
3. Depends.
4. Not possible with the author as Kishi and Sasuke still alive. Kill Sasuke and then get Kishi a few counseling for a few weeks by a therapist, and no more Sasuke Shippuden.
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shino fought madara during the sasuke itachi arc and trapped him with ninja art: beetle sphere although madara teleported.

choji fought against sai, against kakuzu, and against pain with kakashi - he also displayed quite a few new tricks in these fights such as the ability to do spikey human boulder with his hair.

who knows, kishi may come to his senses with the side characters
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