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Old 03-24-2010, 11:18 PM   #201
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God, Jesus anyways, what are you guys talking about?! God makes, Jesus makes miracle, and I didn't
see anyone of them. Do you guys really believe in miracle? And I think if you believe in god, then you're just a slave in mind...
I believe in miracle. I've seen one myself. We're not slaves, but we are the sheep of God while He is our shepherd. In other words, He is not our master to force us to do things that He wants. We have our own free will to choose from.
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:22 PM   #202
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@ Toph you said that we have own will...

Interesting...

But he punishes for that...
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:22 PM   #203
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You forgot about that...
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:26 PM   #204
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:29 PM   #205
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But really it's sad...
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:30 PM   #206
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I want to believe him, I want to pray, but it's all just a crap...
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:35 PM   #207
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@ Toph you said that we have own will...

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But he punishes for that...
God doesn't punish, He disciplines. It's like the love of a parent to a child. We are disciplined by our parents when we do something wrong.
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:40 PM   #208
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Yeah, he disciplines by inviting us as guest to the hell?
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:47 PM   #209
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No He doesn't. He's actually guiding us so we won't go to hell.
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Old 03-25-2010, 02:37 AM   #210
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Hm... Based on what you said, some Christians are actually perfect. They don't have troubles and trials everyday because God gives them the strength to face it. Those christians that think being a christian is hard are really hypocrites.
Show me someone perfect. I would like to meet these people because I don't believe they exist, and I can say this, based on the fact that your God does not exist.

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oh wow i cant believe people can actualy ssit there and say god doesnt exist
It shouldn't really come as a surprise that people don't believe in God, but if it's new to you, welcome to the real world.
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Old 03-25-2010, 02:54 AM   #211
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Well, you can't meet them. They're already dead. But I'm sure there are some out there that is perfect. By the way, the term perfect that I'm trying to say is not the one who doesn't do anything wrong or the one that's good at everything. The word perfect in this case is the one who obeys God.
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Old 03-25-2010, 02:56 AM   #212
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Well, you can't meet them. They're already dead. But I'm sure there are some out there that is perfect. By the way, the term perfect that I'm trying to say is not the one who doesn't do anything wrong or the one that's good at everything. The word perfect in this case is the one who obeys God.
Then you shouldn't use the word perfect in that context, there's a more appropriate word for that, and that word is "Christian".
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Old 03-25-2010, 03:04 AM   #213
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@ Err why not "Muslim"?
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Old 03-25-2010, 03:12 AM   #214
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Then you shouldn't use the word perfect in that context, there's a more appropriate word for that, and that word is "Christian".
Dude, not all Christians are perfect. A lot are actually hypocrites. Don't you read the bible? It exactly used the word PERFECT. John the baptist and his parents were PERFECT.
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Old 03-25-2010, 03:20 AM   #215
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Ehh...

Do you think youself "Perfect"?
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Old 03-25-2010, 03:20 AM   #216
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Dude, not all Christians are perfect. A lot are actually hypocrites. Don't you read the bible? It exactly used the word PERFECT. John the baptist and his parents were PERFECT.
How can they even claim that? The bible isn't even perfect. So much for the inspired words of God.
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Good point. I thought of that only after I posted that message. But yes, basically any other religious title.
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Old 03-25-2010, 03:22 AM   #217
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Ehh...

Do you think youself "Perfect"?
Lol! No. I'm not even on the half of it.

CORRECTION: To be honest, I guess there really aren't any perfect christians there anymore. But some still are righteous. What Mahatma Ghandi said was right. There is only one true christian that set foot on this world and that was Jesus Christ.

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Old 03-25-2010, 03:25 AM   #218
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How can they even claim that? The bible isn't even perfect. So much for the inspired words of God.
The bible is perfect. The bible is the word of God, which is perfect. But I'm not saying it exactly said that. It was implied.

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I guess there's no way around God without getting religious scripture involved.

The bible is not perfect, it contradicts itself, it's immoral, it advocates slavery, stoning of people, human sacrifice, promotes gender inequality, among a lot of other things.

By saying this is the word of your God and saying that it's perfect, you are saying that these things are ok. I know you don't consider these things to be moral or just (at least, I would hope not), but believing in the bible is believing all these horrible things.
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Old 03-25-2010, 04:15 AM   #220
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I didn't say it was ok. Besides, you really can't question why God is doing all of these things. Just like I said before, we humans only have a finite mind while God has an infinite one. But I know that He loves all of us very much, that's why He wants to guide us.
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