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Old 03-22-2010, 01:40 AM   #1
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What do you think, does god really exist?!
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don't think he does....never did
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Why most of the people are thinking that god doesn't exist?! Are you have any motive to think so?!
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Why most of the people are thinking that god doesn't exist?! Are you have any motive to think so?!
...if i can't see something with my own eyes then it doesn't exist...therefore since i haven't seen you, you don't exist hahahaaha...jk but seriously
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Old 03-22-2010, 01:57 AM   #5
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Well, that's the best option to answer. But only for those who has a big hurt on his heart...
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Old 03-22-2010, 04:22 AM   #6
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i need proof of something to believe in it. and since they can't prove there's a god i don't believe in one. i have no religion actually =P
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Old 03-22-2010, 04:24 AM   #7
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i agrree with both sasu and neisen
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:35 AM   #9
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If you want real answers, I highly suggest posting this in the debate section.

However I am agnostic kinda. I just don't believe that everything happening to us was all just by random chance and coincidence. Expecially out of nowhere a big bang happened and cause the universe to exist. Though Stephen Hawking did come up with a brilliant hypothesis that if he can somehow prove that the universe is expanding, this only proves even more that there really was no beggining. So far I don't think he's gotten that far though.However my belief in God is much different than the Judeo-Christian God most people believe in. I think of him as some omnipotent pulling a experiment to truly see if we humans can coexist peacefully with each other or not. But thats just me.
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The reason religion is called FAITH is because it is about you believing in it or not. I don't believe in such things but others do. I respect people's beliefs..while I may not agree with them because we are all entitled to have our own faiths.
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There was a thread already made about the bible and another about athiests defending their stance.
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I strongly believe in a G-d. This both has to do with my religious upbringing, years of studying various religions/ history/ science, and many personal experiences/ beliefs that lead me to believe in a higher power.

There are far too many unexplainable things for there to NOT be some sort of deity in my mind. For example, say the Big Bang Theory is true, and the universe was originally condensed into a single tiny speck of Supermatter. Well, why did that matter suddenly explode into our current universe? What existed before that matter? Why doesn't it exist now? Does it exist now?

For me, G-d is what cannot be explained, known, or comprehended, while at the same time existing as a collective summation of all conscious thought that has spanned eternity. I might not see G-d the same way the religious texts I read say He does, but I still believe nevertheless.
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Well, why did that matter suddenly explode into our current universe?
This reminds me of Aquinas and his "unmoved mover." Interesting philosophical argument.

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This reminds me of Aquinas and his "unmoved mover." Interesting philosophical argument.

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Aquinas made his argument very effectively when compared to many philosophers before him. I mean, that whole first mover and intelligent being stuff is insane when you think about it. Every action has a reaction, so who or what made that first action? And who made the thing that made the first action? There are just too many variables and unanswered questions out there for me NOT to believe in G-d.

I also believe in the entire theory of intelligent design. I mean, when you think about it, the human body is by far the most complex thing in our universe so far. What are the scientific or mathematical odds of our being coming into existence EXACTLY they way it did without some sort of being directing the creation of the human body. For something like man to come into existence simply as a cosmic coincidence is just ridiculous. Science tells us the universe is billions of years old. In those billions of years, the chances of any organisms coming to life, let alone organisms as complex as humans, are nigh impossible by the means with which nature has presented to us.
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I believe in god and that he does exist. That said, I hate the concept of religion. Namely, it's the non-sense concept that, "if you don't believe in our religion, then you'll be damned," got old fast for me.
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Aquinas made his argument very effectively when compared to many philosophers before him. I mean, that whole first mover and intelligent being stuff is insane when you think about it. Every action has a reaction, so who or what made that first action? And who made the thing that made the first action? There are just too many variables and unanswered questions out there for me NOT to believe in G-d.

I also believe in the entire theory of intelligent design. I mean, when you think about it, the human body is by far the most complex thing in our universe so far. What are the scientific or mathematical odds of our being coming into existence EXACTLY they way it did without some sort of being directing the creation of the human body. For something like man to come into existence simply as a cosmic coincidence is just ridiculous. Science tells us the universe is billions of years old. In those billions of years, the chances of any organisms coming to life, let alone organisms as complex as humans, are nigh impossible by the means with which nature has presented to us.
You're clearly more well-informed then I am, buddy. But I get the gist of what you're saying.

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I believe in god and that he does exist. That said, I hate the concept of religion. Namely, it's the non-sense concept that, "if you don't believe in our religion, then you'll be damned," got old fast for me.
Spirituality without religion is also something I prefer. To instantly be labeled along with a group of people who do both good and terrible things doesn't sit well with me. I'd prefer to be judged as an individual.
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I believe in god and that he does exist. That said, I hate the concept of religion. Namely, it's the non-sense concept that, "if you don't believe in our religion, then you'll be damned," got old fast for me.
Agreed. I see religion more as a sort of guideline on how a person can live ideally according to our interpretation of divine messages. Overall, it's not a bad system. I mean, "Thou shall not kill" is usually a nice law to live by. The Ten Commandments provide a fairly well thought out list of ways to live free from the negative repercussions of "sin," otherwise known as breaking the law.
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Aquinas made his argument very effectively when compared to many philosophers before him. I mean, that whole first mover and intelligent being stuff is insane when you think about it. Every action has a reaction, so who or what made that first action? And who made the thing that made the first action? There are just too many variables and unanswered questions out there for me NOT to believe in G-d.

I also believe in the entire theory of intelligent design. I mean, when you think about it, the human body is by far the most complex thing in our universe so far. What are the scientific or mathematical odds of our being coming into existence EXACTLY they way it did without some sort of being directing the creation of the human body. For something like man to come into existence simply as a cosmic coincidence is just ridiculous. Science tells us the universe is billions of years old. In those billions of years, the chances of any organisms coming to life, let alone organisms as complex as humans, are nigh impossible by the means with which nature has presented to us.
i'm sorry but that statement just really got to me. human bodies specifically are not the most complex thing. all living bodies are very complex. do not simply say human because it is ignorant and stupid and i hate it.
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