Why Karin Isn't Dead

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by SasukeFallen

That may be true, but Danzo also has hashirama's cells in him, which deals in life force so that may have helped him not die right away. Besides, it seems that like in Naruto, the more powerful a ninja you are, the more extraordinary injuries there bodies can with stand.

I believe that if Karin's not dead now, then she's dying and is going to die. If Kishi's going to have anymore plot for her, IMO I think that it's going to be to work as an information source for team Sakura. Like the idea brought up about Team Sakura finding Karin and Karin telling them about what happened. I mean, Karin being there to witness everything had to serve some other purpose then her death showing Sasuke's fall into 100% darkness.

But didn't Danzo lose his cells when he broke off his arm. But the point is Danzo really moved when he was already "killed" twice. Karin only been killed once. All she has to do is survive long enough for Sakura to travel 1 Km. She doesn't have to actually do something. We can assume eventually Sakura will go there because Madara and Sasuke will probably "warp" away, so the trail will end there.

I think something is up with her body no longer being visible. Why can't we see it? Somethings up. I think you're right though. Karin is essentially a minor character, Kishimoto wouldn't necessarily make a big deal about her death. Kisame was probably more important, and he died in essentially two panels. But that's the thing, Kishimoto clearly showed that Kisame died. For some reason he is hiding Karin from us, I can't help but believe that means something.

[zerosameri]

Originally Posted by Wooster

But didn't Danzo lose his cells when he broke off his arm. But the point is Danzo really moved when he was already "killed" twice. Karin only been killed once. All she has to do is survive long enough for Sakura to travel 1 Km. She doesn't have to actually do something. We can assume eventually Sakura will go there because Madara and Sasuke will probably "warp" away, so the trail will end there.

I think something is up with her body no longer being visible. Why can't we see it? Somethings up. I think you're right though. Karin is essentially a minor character, Kishimoto wouldn't necessarily make a big deal about her death. Kisame was probably more important, and he died in essentially two panels. But that's the thing, Kishimoto clearly showed that Kisame died. For some reason he is hiding Karin from us, I can't help but believe that means something.

did you think that maybe he forgot to draw her

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by zerosameri

did you think that maybe he forgot to draw her

Brilliant!

[zerosameri]

Originally Posted by Wooster

Brilliant!

A joke or are you serious?

But he forgot to draw things befor so thats why said that.

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by zerosameri

A joke or are you serious?

But he forgot to draw things befor so thats why said that.

I guess I think it's funny if Kishimoto just forgot her. I imagine it like this:

Kishimoto: "Ah, I finished Danzo's death. Not bad if I do say so myself. Madara and Sasuke sure are evil here, good, good. I probably should add some Sakura in there. Oh and Kakashi, there's never too much Kakashi. There done, but I can't help feel I forgot something. Oh well, send it out."

A few hours later an assistant comes in.

A:" Hey, Kishi want me to draw Karin's death panel now."
K: "Who? Oh, yeah that plot device I used to heal Sasuke whenever he is injured. No need I just sent it out and... Ah S***!"

[C4 Karura]

Originally Posted by zerosameri

did you think that maybe he forgot to draw her

Where did he forget to draw her? She's been hidden from view by various columns, but it never showed the spot where she fell with the body not there.

[C4 Karura]

Originally Posted by Wooster

But didn't Danzo lose his cells when he broke off his arm. But the point is Danzo really moved when he was already "killed" twice. Karin only been killed once. All she has to do is survive long enough for Sakura to travel 1 Km. She doesn't have to actually do something. We can assume eventually Sakura will go there because Madara and Sasuke will probably "warp" away, so the trail will end there.

I think something is up with her body no longer being visible. Why can't we see it? Somethings up. I think you're right though. Karin is essentially a minor character, Kishimoto wouldn't necessarily make a big deal about her death. Kisame was probably more important, and he died in essentially two panels. But that's the thing, Kishimoto clearly showed that Kisame died. For some reason he is hiding Karin from us, I can't help but believe that means something.

Very nice case. Rep Up.
EDIT: Sorry, I have to spread it around.

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by C4 Karura

Very nice case. Rep Up.
EDIT: Sorry, I have to spread it around.

Ha, you did it again.

[dillydally]

Originally Posted by zerosameri

Not the point at all. You said that who ever dies gets a flash back. You never said they had to be major. I was making a point that flash backs are a crudy way to tell if someone was going to die. When Sasuke mom died, he was showed dead and no flash back. He played a minor role in the story. But the over all point is flash backs are an awful way to telling if someone is going to die. And with Minato he does count as what you said, when someone gets a flash back you'll be able to tell if their is going to die. Minato played a huge role in the stor, and technically it did show his death (in a weird way) and no flash back.

I feel as if my case is being misinterpreted so I'm going to resate it.

Point A: Kishi is very good at providing closer when a character dies, one way he does this is the pattern with the Akatsuki always getting their cloaks destroyed before their deaths.
Another way he does this is with characters who die on screen he often gives flashback OR A MONOLOGUE (or some internal thought thing). Now of course he isn't going to do this for every single character, he usually does this for characters a some what significant role or have reappeared in multiple arcs. examples of this are: Haku, Zabuza, the 3rd Hokage, Chiyo, Gaara(sorta of), Asuma, Orochimaru, Sassori, Deidara, Danzo, Kakashi, and some others that i'm sure i'm forgetting.

Point B: Karin got more screen time than alot of those character and I find it weird that she only got one tiny little panel before she "died" sure she isn't the most imporant character but considering that there are far less important characters who got whole chapaters dedicated to their deaths I find it werid that Karin didn't even get a page.

Point C: Karin's role is very simular to Hinata's, and her "death" scene was also hadled just like Hinata's was, which leads me to believe that she isn't really dead.

I also think that we will get more details on Minato's death later on and that Kishi has been vague for a reason.

[azmerk]

I beg to differ karin was next to the tree on that stone bridge same as sasuke and danzo. When Danzo unleashed his jutsu it destoryed that tree which means karin would have went with the tree. In short only way she could have survived is if sasuke or madara grabbed her and as the final scene shows she is nowhere to be seen.

[Kakuzu]

Cuz shes the most annoying character in the series, thats why...

[zerosameri]

Originally Posted by Wooster

I guess I think it's funny if Kishimoto just forgot her. I imagine it like this:

Kishimoto: "Ah, I finished Danzo's death. Not bad if I do say so myself. Madara and Sasuke sure are evil here, good, good. I probably should add some Sakura in there. Oh and Kakashi, there's never too much Kakashi. There done, but I can't help feel I forgot something. Oh well, send it out."

A few hours later an assistant comes in.

A:" Hey, Kishi want me to draw Karin's death panel now."
K: "Who? Oh, yeah that plot device I used to heal Sasuke whenever he is injured. No need I just sent it out and... Ah S***!"

that was funny to read

Originally Posted by C4 Karura

Where did he forget to draw her? She's been hidden from view by various columns, but it never showed the spot where she fell with the body not there.

I have no clue, then.

Originally Posted by dillydally

I feel as if my case is being misinterpreted so I'm going to resate it.

Point A: Kishi is very good at providing closer when a character dies, one way he does this is the pattern with the Akatsuki always getting their cloaks destroyed before their deaths.
Another way he does this is with characters who die on screen he often gives flashback OR A MONOLOGUE (or some internal thought thing). Now of course he isn't going to do this for every single character, he usually does this for characters a some what significant role or have reappeared in multiple arcs. examples of this are: Haku, Zabuza, the 3rd Hokage, Chiyo, Gaara(sorta of), Asuma, Orochimaru, Sassori, Deidara, Danzo, Kakashi, and some others that i'm sure i'm forgetting.

Point B: Karin got more screen time than alot of those character and I find it weird that she only got one tiny little panel before she "died" sure she isn't the most imporant character but considering that there are far less important characters who got whole chapaters dedicated to their deaths I find it werid that Karin didn't even get a page.

Point C: Karin's role is very simular to Hinata's, and her "death" scene was also hadled just like Hinata's was, which leads me to believe that she isn't really dead.

I also think that we will get more details on Minato's death later on and that Kishi has been vague for a reason.

With Point C Hinata was heald right a way wail Kain no one is goingt to heal her. HInata is much stronger then Karin, so Hinata can with stand a fatle blow like that longer then Karin.

Why would they even show more of her any way? The nezt chapter is the Sakura vs Sai. So Karin is going to be shown between pannle :/

[Parak111]

Originally Posted by dillydally

You make a very interesting point, although I do not completely agree.

It is true that both Danzo and Karin played two very different roles, although I don't think you can say that Danzo's was that much more important than Karin's. Danzo's role was that of a stereotypical bad guy, which consisted of him going around trying to gain power and causing a problems for the good guys, and bacuase of that he did contribute alot to the plot. Karin on the other hand had a very different type of role. Karin's role is very simular to Hinata's, which is to say that her role was to help showcase sasuke's personality. I find it kinda ironic that both Danzo's role and Karin's role reach its climax at the same time, but for me it feels as if Danzo purpose has ended, while I feel as if Karin has only just encounter a turning point for her role.

But anyways I got kinda off subject, what I wanted to say is although Danzo's role effects the plot more Karins role is still just as important because her purpose so far has been to show how the second most important character in naruto is changing.

Well I don't think you can say that Kishi ignores any of the female deaths in naruto because the only ones to die on screen so far where Tayuya and Kin, but even then Kin hardly counts (edit: oh and I forgot Chiyo, but I think her death was handle well); since Tsunade isn't dead yet we can't say how her death will be handle. Although speaking of character's deaths am I the only one who is thinking that Karin's "death" was handle exactly like Hinata's "death".

P.S thanks Karura !

Hmm..., you do have a point there. But we can NOT speculate now because there isn't enough proof that she's dead but there isn't any proof on her beeing alive either. Only 1 chapter has passed since. It's exactly because Hinata was found alive in LATER chapters, that I'm saying this. We can't tell anything from a single chapter. Progress needs to be made.

[Ishtar]

I dont know what to think. Im in between

[dillydally]

Originally Posted by zerosameri

that was funny to read
I have no clue, then.


With Point C Hinata was heald right a way wail Kain no one is goingt to heal her. HInata is much stronger then Karin, so Hinata can with stand a fatle blow like that longer then Karin.

I don't know about that, Karin might not have strong taijustu but she has been shown too be able to withstand powerful attacks such amaterasu, and danzo's superpower kick (which if you look at ch 478, pg 5, panel 5 you'll see that that kick made quiet an impact, far more of an impacted than the blow that knocked Hinata out during the pain arc. btw i'm not being anti Hinata here since I like her just as much as Karin, so when I say that Karin can handle stronger hits I'm being bias.)

Why would they even show more of her any way? The nezt chapter is the Sakura vs Sai. So Karin is going to be shown between pannle :/

Wasn't it the same with Hinata tho too, there was the whole Naruto vs Pain fight before Healing Hinata was even metioned. Also Sakura is only about a mile away and she is heading right to her location, she was also probaly a simular distance away from Hinata since Konoha is so huge.

What I think is going to happen is that Karin is going to be out of the picture for a while and then after a battle or two sakura will find her and than she will inform them of sasukes plan. Although the last part is a little irrelevant.

[akatsukiLOVE]

i think they're just keeping her around to me annoying fall back character if they need her for something

[Warlock]

I think that was the whole reason she was introduced

[zerosameri]

Originally Posted by dillydally

Wasn't it the same with Hinata tho too, there was the whole Naruto vs Pain fight before Healing Hinata was even metioned. Also Sakura is only about a mile away and she is heading right to her location, she was also probaly a simular distance away from Hinata since Konoha is so huge.

What I think is going to happen is that Karin is going to be out of the picture for a while and then after a battle or two sakura will find her and than she will inform them of sasukes plan. Although the last part is a little irrelevant.

Hinata was heald right away, Karin won't be heald. Who would heal her? I mean really now.

There is no reason for Karin any more. Karin is dead, gone, vansihed (what ever you want to call it). There is no more of her to be or even needed to be shown. Why would they interuped a battle and show Karin, and pointless character right now. Karin all ready hate's Sakura even though Karin may not know what she looks like. Karin is long gone dead. IF she is shown a gain it will be pointless!

[Warlock]

Who would heal her? Sakura, barely a mile away, thats who. Or, if she had any brains, she could bite herself

[C4 Karura]

Originally Posted by azmerk

I beg to differ karin was next to the tree on that stone bridge same as sasuke and danzo. When Danzo unleashed his jutsu it destoryed that tree which means karin would have went with the tree. In short only way she could have survived is if sasuke or madara grabbed her and as the final scene shows she is nowhere to be seen.

Seriously, READ THE OP!!! (Geez... Why does everyone keep saying she got sucked up or killed by the explosion? It's really annoying...)

Originally Posted by zerosameri

that was funny to read
I have no clue, then.


With Point C Hinata was heald right a way wail Kain no one is goingt to heal her. HInata is much stronger then Karin, so Hinata can with stand a fatle blow like that longer then Karin.

Why would they even show more of her any way? The nezt chapter is the Sakura vs Sai. So Karin is going to be shown between pannle :/

Grr... KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. Hinata wasn't found or even seen for 4 chapters after her "death". It wasn't until the 5th that Sakura started healing her. How is that "right away"?