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Old 02-05-2010, 02:57 PM   #1
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Default Do you agree with the "Don't tell don't do" policy ?

I think I have that worded wrong...but anyways..the policy I am speaking of is the one where if you are labeled as a bi, gay, hermaphrodite, or transgender, you will be discharged from the military. Many men and women in the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines are continuously discharged due to people ratting them out to superior officers because they slept or kissed or whatever someone of the same gender or have openly admitted to being one of those.

I find this to be a downright violation of rights. This is like treating the gay community as the africans were treated in the early 1900's. African-Americans weren't even allowed to shoot weapons in early World Wars and before then. Nor could they even surpass a certain rank.

Why not let a gay man fly a jet? Why not let a gay woman become a medic that would save countless lives? I don't understand how this is even accepted today in our society.


Some of these people who don't get discharged have to hide their trueselves and protect a country that doesn't even want them in the place they are at just because of who they are...it seriously disgusts me.

So I ask what is your opinion on the matter?

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Old 02-05-2010, 02:58 PM   #2
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That is just retarded. Seriously, whoever is in charge of the military, their mom totally drank when she was pregnant.
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It is mind boggling to me that we let illegal aliens (from all sorts of countries) come here freely and join the military and have full rights, yet those who are american born but are Gay aka destroyers of suburbia have no rights to join the military. Welcome to the "free" country.
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Don't ask, don't tell xD

I totally agree with you, but then again, the majority of this Country is BS.
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:12 PM   #5
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Don't ask, don't tell xD

I totally agree with you, but then again, the majority of this Country is BS.
I knew you would pop in and correct me XD

Yup our political system is trashed....Liberals and Conservatives what?
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hmm my oppinion is because they shoower together,walk around naked,and some other stuff and it would be weird(a.k.a somewhat a Jail like thing but jail doesn't care)-paraphrased from my teacher
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:35 PM   #7
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hmm my oppinion is because they shoower together,walk around naked,and some other stuff and it would be weird(a.k.a somewhat a Jail like thing but jail doesn't care)-paraphrased from my teacher
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hmm my oppinion is because they shoower together,walk around naked,and some other stuff and it would be weird(a.k.a somewhat a Jail like thing but jail doesn't care)-paraphrased from my teacher
Yea, because College's don't have Co-Ed bathrooms or anything >.>
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So you agree with it then?
meh..i honestly don't give a rip
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this is actually against a major law.
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Old 02-05-2010, 05:07 PM   #11
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Default Re: Do you agree with the "Don't tell don't do" policy ?

i kind of understand the policy, cuz if people ask if ur gay or people go around sayin their gay then who knows wut the others will think or how they'll react. altho if a superior finds out some1's gay they shudnt kick them out or treat em like crap or deny them rights or anythin like that
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honestly the government is just courrupt thats how it always was
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well its downright stupid remember the "I Have A Dream"

also this is a guess but they probably discharge the people either because they think it will affect the other soldiers or they don't want them to be tormented by other soldiers or they are just idiots
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I dislike people who discriminate against others' sexuality. Close-mindedness pisses me off. ><

Let people love who they love; it shouldn't matter. And it has nothing to do with how they do their jobs. Well, it shouldn't.
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The government is corrupt, it is the reason for all bad things that happen.
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That is just retarded. Seriously, whoever is in charge of the military, their mom totally drank when she was pregnant.
Isn't the president in charge of the military? Like Commander in Chief?

But yea it is stupid, these people are joining the armed forces to protect our country and all those damn a**holes out there who are homophobes i bet a gay, bi, lesbian marine would have you knocked out cold in a matter of seconds. They risk our lives for us and the deserve respect no matter what.
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Isn't it "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"?
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Don't Ask Don't Tell.

It's for their own good really. If you are in a bathroom full of straight men and they know you are openly gay, you are going to have some problems. Plus it's the military's job to mold and brainwash you. If a soldier is constantly worrying about getting harrassed by their comrades, they won't be a good soldier.
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Here's my personal take:

Morally and lawfully, it's wrong.

Logically, it's right.

There is far too much outright prejudice to homosexuals, bisexuals, etc. for them to be able to do their jobs well. How can you defend your country from terrorism when you may end up questioning your country's ideals for sexuality, race, religion, etc?

While various sexualities are becoming more widely accepted, we still haven't reached the point where everyone is fine with their bunk mate being gay. It not only provides a huge distraction to some, but it can lead to outright violence, disgust, and an unstable mindset, none of which can be tolerated or risked when you're in the military.
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