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Old 01-28-2010, 02:27 PM   #21
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I guess i cudnt hate her i mean she was pretty cool... but the whole sasuke freaking was getting on my nerves... it wud be greta if she joined up with sakura and konoha though.. but i cud picture how madara was really feeling XD


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Karin in Angel form: *vein twitching on forehead* Calm down karin... CAAAALLLMMMM down inhale....exhale...inhale... ah wat the hell SASUKE!!!!! WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!??
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Sasuke has went mad...
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Old 01-28-2010, 06:48 PM   #24
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What the hell? why does everyone hate karin so much? She did n't do anything! yeah, she likes sasuke, but are u jealous. You might as well hate Sakura and Ino too.
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To me she's like.. eh. But I'd really like her to become more important.
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Oh yeah he did! and sincerely I don't feel bad about it, I actually don't care that much, I just feel bad about Karin fans, so sorry guys/girls .
Actually the world got back that shiny light it lost when Karin appear in our lives..
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Perhaps if she had Shikamaru's intelligence then she wouldn't have to waste all those weapons.

Unless I'm mistaken the only character she beat was herself. :/
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I really think she's going to live (unlike you I would've been happy if she died but not like this) but I doubt she'll join Konoha. She's completely obsessed with Sasuke so she probably thinks it was ok for him to do that as long as he could hit Danzou....

I don't think Sakura is that close by and honestly she should've been hit pretty close to the heart unless Kishi wants to make it seem completely unrealistic...I'm going more with the possibility that she can heal herself somehow.

I can definitely see Juugo being captured but Suigetsu? I wonder if they'll have a hard time since he's like water itself slipping throught your hands....also the samurai were pretty weak and Juugo and Suigetsu are ninjas so maybe they had no problem escaping.
What do mean, she thinks it's okay that he stabbed her?! READ. THE. CHAPTER. On the last page, she thinks, "Wha..." as a look of shock comes over her face, and she finally realizes that Sasuke thinks nothing of her. If she survives, she's going to leave him, at the very least.
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Perhaps if she had Shikamaru's intelligence then she wouldn't have to waste all those weapons.

Unless I'm mistaken the only character she beat was herself. :/
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What the heck, Sasuke? Alright. I will try to view this from an unbiased stand point.

In Chapter 480, Sasuke stabs Karin and Danzo through the heart. Karin had been taken hostage.

Alright. Statisically, Karin should be dead, and there's no way around that. She had enough stamina to tank Danzo's kick but I don't think she had enough to tank THAT.

Kishimoto did say that Taka was going to meet a bad end. Well, Suigetsu and Jugo might be arrested right now, and Karin might be dead. There's also the fact that her abilities where significantly expanded upon in the last battle, which is always a bad sign. Also, Kishimoto said he wanted to write something 'big' for Sasuke, and this certaintly is.

It would be a great way for him to descend into the darkness, and Naruto & co. could hear about what he did to his teammates.


Agreed. Great way to descend into the darkness. Which I believe will happen completely, and Naruto will be the one to bring him back from the darkness. Kishimoto has done an excellent job of keeping his readers attentive and on their toes, but everything we've seen from Naruto points to fact that he will not fail at this mission to save Sasuke. Sasuke may die, but not at the hands of Naruto.

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There is a scenario in which she lives, though. She could actually live through this quite easily, given how much characterization she's been given she could pull a plot - she could be thrown aside by Danzo/Sasuke and unleash some healing jutsu. Or she could be found by other hopeful souls before she dies and healed, as people are undoubtedly coming after Danzo. And there's the slim chance that Suigetsu and Jugo might find her after escaping, and heal her. So she could live.


I think a healing jutsu is unlikely. She just had her chakra drained by Sasuke right before she was taken hostage. It is doubtful that she has the energy or the chakra to pull off any kind of healing on herself.

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I really don't want Karin to be dead. She was a great character, very good for comic relief, great support type, and she sincerely loved Sasuke. Sincerely, as she was willing to risk so much for him. If she's dead I'll probably not be following Naruto very devoutly anymore.


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She was a decent character, but a major role player. She loved Sasuke about as much as much as Ino and Sakura did at the beginning of the entire Naruto series. It's just a lustful schoolgirl crush based on nothing more than his "coolness". That isn't love. Sakura def fell in love with Sasuke later in the series but at least she had more to go on than "he's hot" and "he's so cool". Obsession does not equate to love by any stretch.

Comic relief was okay I suppose. She had her moments, but it seems like she is an external character like Shikamaru or Choji at best. She has/had her part in the series, but it isn't meant to be a major role.

Losing interest in the series because she A) isn't in it as much anymore or B) isn't in it at all anymore is a bit overkill IMO.


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I really think she's going to live (unlike you I would've been happy if she died but not like this) but I doubt she'll join Konoha. She's completely obsessed with Sasuke so she probably thinks it was ok for him to do that as long as he could hit Danzou....

I don't think Sakura is that close by and honestly she should've been hit pretty close to the heart unless Kishi wants to make it seem completely unrealistic...I'm going more with the possibility that she can heal herself somehow.
Honestly if Karin lives it'll probably be because Sasuke intentionally missed one her vital spots. If you notice in the manga that you never really see where his Chidori Stream hit Karin, then you'll realize its meant to leave that option open. You can obviously see where Danzou was hit due to where the stream left his back, but Karin's blow was much more sheltered and hidden away. Plus the fact that Sasuke told Karin "don't move" kind of hints that he was aiming at a particular location and her movement would mess it up.

So. Either Sasuke aimed well and missed Karin's vital spots OR he did indeed intentionally kill her. Guess we'll find out next chapter.

As far as Sakura healing her goes I would probably say that is doubtful. It isn't too likely that they would find her in time. If they did, Sakura may heal her just because she is a Leaf Shinobi and she'll want to save her because A) she thinks its her duty or B) she'll want info on Sasuke. But if that does end up happening, I doubt that Karin would join Konoha. She is too obsessively devoted to Sasuke to join his enemies, espcially if he intentionally missed her vital spots.


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I AM however, very happy that Danzou is probably dead; though their is something seriously wrong with Sasuke. After all the fight with Danzou he still is able to use Mangekyou Sharingan?

Something I think (Theory):

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Somehow the Nine-Tails is giving him power (example: When Karin said his chakra was so cold in whatever Manga, your clearly saw the outline of the Nine-Tails in the background of Sasuke


Somehow I question whether Danzou really is dead yet. More than likely he is, but at this point who knows where things will go.

And even Madara seems impressed at Sasuke's use of the Mangekyou Sharingan, no doubt that he probably could have bested Itachi with his skill.

But one thing I don't recall is your reference to the Nine-Tails chakra surrounding Sasuke. I seriously doubt that is the case. Seemed like the Nine-Tails wasn't exactly too happy to see Sasuke in Naruto's subconscious that one time - mainly because the Sharingan is capable of controlling it.

So that in mind I don't think that it was the Nine-Tails. Especially if you are referring to a recent chapter of the manga because if that is true then it was just Susanoo's chakra cloak. Not sure, but I kind of like that attachment and bond to Naruto even though it is highly unlikely.


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I dont think he killed her if he would have just wanted to kell her he would use the mangekyo he would just stab her i think he used suassno to protect karin


If he had used Susanoo, then you would think you would have seen some part of it...but no. Besides, Sasuke shot his Chidori Stream directly through both of them - had Susanoo been present, the beam probably wouldn't have gone through either of them.

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What do mean, she thinks it's okay that he stabbed her?! READ. THE. CHAPTER. On the last page, she thinks, "Wha..." as a look of shock comes over her face, and she finally realizes that Sasuke thinks nothing of her. If she survives, she's going to leave him, at the very least.

Eh. I think Kishimoto meant that ending to convey surprise, but it could still go either way. Anyone would be shocked after being shot, but if Sasuke missed vital spots then she could be like "aww he's so cool AND he managed to save me and kill Danzou at the same time! I LOVE SASUKE!" or if he did indeed strike a fatal blow then of course its "he never cared about me at all..."

I think her shock is too ambiguous a reference to base any real conclusion on though.

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Lots of very interesting theories. I tend to lean on a few different scenarios just because I like variety and keeping my options open

So I think that...

A) If Karin is alive, its because Sasuke missed her vital spots as possibly hinted when he said "don't move...Karin." It could have been that he had a specific place he was aiming for and Karin's position was as such that she wouldn't DIE from the blow.

Now attached to this are two other scenarios:

1) Karin is "left for dead" by Madara while Sasuke knows he missed her vital spots - maybe a hint that Sasuke is truly using Madara (or at least trying to)

OR

2) Karin rejoins Sasuke after she gets over the shock that he shot his Chidori Stream directly through her body. Probably take her a while to heal.

Then you have the other side of things...

B) Karin is killed. Feels betrayed. Left for dead. Sakura and the rest of the Konoha ninja appear after Sasuke and Madara have disappeared (I seriously doubt that Madara will let Sasuke fight them at this point in time...he'll transport the two of them away to avoid a battle), and the Leaf ninja interrogate Karin before she dies. She'll probably be upset so she'll tell them everything she knows about Sasuke more than likely.

Those are my two sides so far. I can see Kishimoto doing some other interesting plot twists and stuff, but I'm not sure that I have those theories developed well enough to even explain them. I've gotten to where I expect anything and everything in Naruto though.

Either way, I love where this story is going because I'm excited to see how Kishi is going to have Naruto bring it all to a positive resolve. Its his "ninja way!" So I don't think that Kishi would have Naruto fail. Granted it will be a tricky and sly way of having Naruto succeed in converting Sasuke and everything else, but I think it'll happen one way or anything.

CAN'T WAIT!

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What do mean, she thinks it's okay that he stabbed her?! READ. THE. CHAPTER. On the last page, she thinks, "Wha..." as a look of shock comes over her face, and she finally realizes that Sasuke thinks nothing of her. If she survives, she's going to leave him, at the very least.
She might have been shocked or surprised that he did it but it doesn't mean her obsession is over...I meant if she survives then she'll probably think nothing of the fact that he didn't even hesitate to hurt her (that's assuming it's Karin at all) and she'll still follow him.
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Well... the chapter did start out by saying
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I HAD been thinking that maybe Sasuke missed her vital points and just "hurt her" without killing her, but. That creepy face he had going on makes me think he just acted without thinking. :\ Yeah, he's officially Dark Side material now. WAKE UP AND COME HELP HIM, NARUTO.

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... I don't know, Sasuke is way too far gone, I don't think even Naruto could bring him back; the man's psyco!
On the other hand, this really make SasuSaku fans look bad MUAHAHAHAHAA! I hate that couple. SO much...
......Uh, yeeeeaaaah, because SasuSaku TOTALLY revolves around Sasuke stabbing Karin, who has nothing to do with Sakura whatsoever and has never been shown to have meant as much to him as anyone in Team 7 did. Oh, pairing-bias. Stop rearing your ugly head.
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i dont think sauske killed her on purpose if look closely at the end of the chapter danzo has is sharningahn out which raises questiones i think madara made him do it by controlling him without sauske knowing.
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Agreed. Great way to descend into the darkness. Which I believe will happen completely, and Naruto will be the one to bring him back from the darkness. Kishimoto has done an excellent job of keeping his readers attentive and on their toes, but everything we've seen from Naruto points to fact that he will not fail at this mission to save Sasuke. Sasuke may die, but not at the hands of Naruto.



I think a healing jutsu is unlikely. She just had her chakra drained by Sasuke right before she was taken hostage. It is doubtful that she has the energy or the chakra to pull off any kind of healing on herself.





She was a decent character, but a major role player. She loved Sasuke about as much as much as Ino and Sakura did at the beginning of the entire Naruto series. It's just a lustful schoolgirl crush based on nothing more than his "coolness". That isn't love. Sakura def fell in love with Sasuke later in the series but at least she had more to go on than "he's hot" and "he's so cool". Obsession does not equate to love by any stretch.

Comic relief was okay I suppose. She had her moments, but it seems like she is an external character like Shikamaru or Choji at best. She has/had her part in the series, but it isn't meant to be a major role.

Losing interest in the series because she A) isn't in it as much anymore or B) isn't in it at all anymore is a bit overkill IMO.






Honestly if Karin lives it'll probably be because Sasuke intentionally missed one her vital spots. If you notice in the manga that you never really see where his Chidori Stream hit Karin, then you'll realize its meant to leave that option open. You can obviously see where Danzou was hit due to where the stream left his back, but Karin's blow was much more sheltered and hidden away. Plus the fact that Sasuke told Karin "don't move" kind of hints that he was aiming at a particular location and her movement would mess it up.

So. Either Sasuke aimed well and missed Karin's vital spots OR he did indeed intentionally kill her. Guess we'll find out next chapter.

As far as Sakura healing her goes I would probably say that is doubtful. It isn't too likely that they would find her in time. If they did, Sakura may heal her just because she is a Leaf Shinobi and she'll want to save her because A) she thinks its her duty or B) she'll want info on Sasuke. But if that does end up happening, I doubt that Karin would join Konoha. She is too obsessively devoted to Sasuke to join his enemies, espcially if he intentionally missed her vital spots.




Somehow I question whether Danzou really is dead yet. More than likely he is, but at this point who knows where things will go.

And even Madara seems impressed at Sasuke's use of the Mangekyou Sharingan, no doubt that he probably could have bested Itachi with his skill.

But one thing I don't recall is your reference to the Nine-Tails chakra surrounding Sasuke. I seriously doubt that is the case. Seemed like the Nine-Tails wasn't exactly too happy to see Sasuke in Naruto's subconscious that one time - mainly because the Sharingan is capable of controlling it.

So that in mind I don't think that it was the Nine-Tails. Especially if you are referring to a recent chapter of the manga because if that is true then it was just Susanoo's chakra cloak. Not sure, but I kind of like that attachment and bond to Naruto even though it is highly unlikely.




If he had used Susanoo, then you would think you would have seen some part of it...but no. Besides, Sasuke shot his Chidori Stream directly through both of them - had Susanoo been present, the beam probably wouldn't have gone through either of them.



Eh. I think Kishimoto meant that ending to convey surprise, but it could still go either way. Anyone would be shocked after being shot, but if Sasuke missed vital spots then she could be like "aww he's so cool AND he managed to save me and kill Danzou at the same time! I LOVE SASUKE!" or if he did indeed strike a fatal blow then of course its "he never cared about me at all..."

I think her shock is too ambiguous a reference to base any real conclusion on though.

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Lots of very interesting theories. I tend to lean on a few different scenarios just because I like variety and keeping my options open

So I think that...

A) If Karin is alive, its because Sasuke missed her vital spots as possibly hinted when he said "don't move...Karin." It could have been that he had a specific place he was aiming for and Karin's position was as such that she wouldn't DIE from the blow.

Now attached to this are two other scenarios:

1) Karin is "left for dead" by Madara while Sasuke knows he missed her vital spots - maybe a hint that Sasuke is truly using Madara (or at least trying to)

OR

2) Karin rejoins Sasuke after she gets over the shock that he shot his Chidori Stream directly through her body. Probably take her a while to heal.

Then you have the other side of things...

B) Karin is killed. Feels betrayed. Left for dead. Sakura and the rest of the Konoha ninja appear after Sasuke and Madara have disappeared (I seriously doubt that Madara will let Sasuke fight them at this point in time...he'll transport the two of them away to avoid a battle), and the Leaf ninja interrogate Karin before she dies. She'll probably be upset so she'll tell them everything she knows about Sasuke more than likely.

Those are my two sides so far. I can see Kishimoto doing some other interesting plot twists and stuff, but I'm not sure that I have those theories developed well enough to even explain them. I've gotten to where I expect anything and everything in Naruto though.

Either way, I love where this story is going because I'm excited to see how Kishi is going to have Naruto bring it all to a positive resolve. Its his "ninja way!" So I don't think that Kishi would have Naruto fail. Granted it will be a tricky and sly way of having Naruto succeed in converting Sasuke and everything else, but I think it'll happen one way or anything.

CAN'T WAIT!
dude what reason does he have to use his left mangekyo and tell Karin to not move if he just wants to stab her?
he must did something to protect karin!
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I dout that she lived. Even though Sasuke said don't move Karin she was still hit right next to the hart (Danzou was hit in the hart and Karin is was is front of him) not even Naruto would be able to live after that.

Sasuke told Karin to say still so Sasuke would get an exact hit on Danzou, If Karin was to struggle then iT would be harder to hit the exact point on Danzou. Plus Sasuke is drop dead at any moment. So that fact the Karin stade still, helpt Sasuke kill Danzou (maybe) and even a greater chace that she'll die too.

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At least Sasuke's not emo anymore. :3 But judging from the position of Karin when Danzo was holding her, I seriously hope she just got pierced through a lung or something. Or maybe that's just the angle drawn. xD
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Well, Taka deserves to die anyways. If it wasn't for Jugo and Karin, Sasuke would be DEAD (and i would be happy)

If Karin woudn't help Sasuke, sasuke would die when Killer Bee stabed multiplie times Sasuke.
While Jugo gave some organs of hes own to Sasuke when Killer Bee CRUSHED Sasuke's organs.

And Sasuke would be defeated if Karin wouldn't help fight against Danzo.
I am happy that Karin died, because she was getting on my nerves with healing Sasuke all the time, but at same time. I don't want to Danzo lose.
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I think karin is dead and sakura is next, she migth not die but sasuke going to try to kill her. I think he is headed for konoha and who ever gets in his way will get a taste of sasanoo,black fire thingy,and the rest of his collection. He must have chakra on narutos level.
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actaluy sasuke killed danzo sackru going to try to kille sasuke
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