I think I may have done it. - Page 2

ThePurpleChidori · 12-21-2009, 06:04 AM

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ThePurpleChidori · 12-21-2009, 06:16 AM

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AshenREAPER · 12-21-2009, 11:09 AM

???

Didn't think Hojo came here anymore... xD Although Chidori, he does have a good point. I'm sure even 3500z would agree that there's no trick whatsoever to figure out TSC. If you know where the Genin are, then you know where all the TSC and Anbu addresses are. I'm definitely not of the same opinion as Hojo as it's definitely possible for a noob hacker to figure out all the Genin tags and then go about thinking that TSC are somewhere else in the games memory and seeing as you can't change their tags it's difficult to find them by doing an emucheat search for them, so therefore they're much harder to figure out.

But seriously, Chidori, you didn't notice the pattern just by looking at the Genin addresses? xDDD I figured out the first 3 genin using emucheat searches, after noticing the obvious pattern I just used basic math and I had all the character addresses figured out in 5-10 minutes. The long part for me was figuring out the tags. <.<

ThePurpleChidori · 12-22-2009, 07:10 AM

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AshenREAPER · 12-22-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePurpleChidori

What? I thought it was all adding to the hex digits. There must be some trick I don't know about, because Genin are all the same, but TSC are random! I mean, the hex is just randomness. You have to guess it, and that's why I don't know all of the TSC.

Also, I KNOW ALL of the addresses, but not the codes themselves. I prefer to call them Character ID's. Besides, I found all of the ID's in an old GameFAQs topic, but the guy messed up so I figured out basic hex and looked at Hojo's topic and figured it out. TSC were HARD though, it was GUESSING.

If there's some place, just tell me. Because now I just feel left out... xD

Gotta say Chidori, your PM made my day. xD You definitely screwed up on the addresses. A couple things you should know about coding:

1. NOTHING is random in a games memory. Every individual bit within the 4 MB of CPU memory on the DS will have some purpose. Whether it's just data padding or even if it's something like Naruto's Sprite color. It all has some form of purpose. As such, recklessly guessing and changing random values is likely to end with your game save getting corrupted, or worse.

2. Most games that I've seen and coded for now keep things in a pretty organized manner. If you come across an area in memory that seems to correspond to the more randomized values of your character(For example in this game, randomized values would be Remaining HP/Remaining Chakra/Morale/How many pills your character has used/what tags your characters have equipped/what equipment your characters have equipped/ etc.), then the chances are that every characters data will be right next to each other in an area such as this.

More often than not it's like going down a list of addresses that correspond to one character, and then it moves on to the next, etc. Anything separating the characters is referred to as padding, and there usually isn't much because for the DS the makers know they only have 4 MB of memory to deal with. Moving on, stuff in this area is very easy to modify. And it's very easy to spot patterns when looking at places like this in memory.

3. When it comes to code making, guessing is like brute force hacking into someones e-mail account on a respected E-mail server. (Excluding the fact that you might get caught)Chances are it'll take you a few lifetimes to finally succeed. And the chances are you'll give up long before then. xD

4. If you're gonna try figuring

out like this, a hex viewer is recommended. At the very least, being able to do simple arithmetic with hexadecimal is a must.

ThePurpleChidori · 12-22-2009, 01:48 PM

I'm sure Jiraiya was right. And I wasn't guessing, I have a backup save at someones house (in PM) so if I get it wrong, I can just bop back in. I have a basic idea of what to do.

phantom9999 · 12-22-2009, 02:30 PM

Let's not ruin what is left of wifi. Please keep hacking within FC battles only.

ThePurpleChidori · 12-22-2009, 02:41 PM

I never said I was going to use it online. If I did, I would DEFINATELY tell everyone, and after I test I'd D/C.

Jimboberino · 12-22-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by phantom9999

Let's not ruin what is left of wifi. Please keep hacking within FC battles only.

Agreed. The only other game I played for the wifi experience was ruined by hackers. Out of 10 matches, you would be lucky to find 3 legit-looking teams. And out of every 10 Legit-looking teams you fight, only 4 are good enough to challenge you. Obviously, I have quit that game.

( * ) ITACHI (,',) · 12-22-2009, 03:58 PM

I was browsing the forum and Ashen mentioned my name!

As for Hojo's mod, his post really stated everything you needed to know to figure it out. Unless you need Shikamaru's IQ200 tag to help you Chidori!

+4 and the world revolves around the sun.

(Hint-Hint!)

(Big Hint! = Really Big Hint!)

AshenREAPER · 12-22-2009, 06:19 PM

Heh, no need to worry guys, anything that I've said so far could be googled, as it's nothing but the basics. As such, if Chidori wants to figure stuff out, it's still up to him to do the work.

Also, what Chidori had really wasn't much to brag about. Most(probably all) of the character addresses that he figured out were only half correct. All I did was give him a crash course in hexadecimal seeing as that's his main problem for not being able to figure stuff out on his own.

If he still can't figure it out, then he really has no right trying to figure out this mod until he investigates how to code on his own and how to do it properly. The addresses he had were all backwards, he's probably lucky his game still works, as experience has taught me that backwards codes typically end with problems with how the game works, data corruption and loss of save files, up to and including completely frying your game.

@3500z- Is there a problem mentioning your name?

ThePurpleChidori · 12-22-2009, 06:47 PM

It seems weird because the codes I PM'd you worked for me.

I didn't see anything wrong with my codes, as they worked for me...

AshenREAPER · 12-22-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePurpleChidori

It seems weird because the codes I PM'd you worked for me.

I didn't see anything wrong with my codes, as they worked for me...

If you want proof...

1. Take all the tags you currently have equipped to Lee, off

2. Save the game and shut off.

3. Using your Lee code try to put 10 tags back on him.

Things to look for:
-Did all 10 tags appear on Lee? You should only get 7 of them.
-Take a look at Tenten, is anything... different? If I'm not mistaked there should be something odd about the amount of Exp she has, but in case my memory is failing me also check her equipment. Something should have changed in one of those places.

ThePurpleChidori · 12-23-2009, 06:08 AM

Okay, so I guess if I modify Lee, it'll modify Tenten...?

Alright, I'll try it Ashen. Right now I'm going to delete all of my code-related posts just to save wifi.

( * ) ITACHI (,',) · 12-23-2009, 08:55 AM

Can we talk about coding on this site??? If we can I will explain some things to Chidori.

rouge night · 12-23-2009, 08:58 AM

tats great good for u jimboberino

ThePurpleChidori · 12-23-2009, 09:02 AM

Yeah, we can. Ashen's been PMing me and I have some questions but I think some of my adresses are 4 off.

ThePurpleChidori · 12-23-2009, 09:03 AM

Why don't you do it in PMs 3500z?

( * ) ITACHI (,',) · 12-23-2009, 09:27 AM

???maybe not??? Some one told me not too!
Try asking Hojo nice! He might not give you the mod, but he might push you in the right direction to figuring it out.

Spoiler:

ThePurpleChidori · 12-23-2009, 09:28 AM

Okay...

12-21-2009, 11:09 AM	#23
AshenREAPER The Nether Traitor Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: I'm in your TV, kidnapping your spampa Posts: 5,125 Rep Power: 14 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4 Total Points: 10	Re: I think I may have done it. ??? Didn't think Hojo came here anymore... xD Although Chidori, he does have a good point. I'm sure even 3500z would agree that there's no trick whatsoever to figure out TSC. If you know where the Genin are, then you know where all the TSC and Anbu addresses are. I'm definitely not of the same opinion as Hojo as it's definitely possible for a noob hacker to figure out all the Genin tags and then go about thinking that TSC are somewhere else in the games memory and seeing as you can't change their tags it's difficult to find them by doing an emucheat search for them, so therefore they're much harder to figure out. But seriously, Chidori, you didn't notice the pattern just by looking at the Genin addresses? xDDD I figured out the first 3 genin using emucheat searches, after noticing the obvious pattern I just used basic math and I had all the character addresses figured out in 5-10 minutes. The long part for me was figuring out the tags. <.< __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-22-2009, 02:30 PM	#27
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12-22-2009, 03:58 PM	#30
( * ) ITACHI (,',) Genin Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Konoha - The Village Hidden in the Leaf Posts: 252 Rep Power: 0	Re: I think I may have done it. I was browsing the forum and Ashen mentioned my name! As for Hojo's mod, his post really stated everything you needed to know to figure it out. Unless you need Shikamaru's IQ200 tag to help you Chidori! +4 and the world revolves around the sun. (Hint-Hint!) (Big Hint! = Really Big Hint!) __________________ Naruto Path of the Ninja 2: Friends Code: Random Wifi, Unfixed Levels! Wifi Names: The Human Torch Old Wifi Names: Shonen Jump Way of Binding 61 () MADARA ()

12-22-2009, 06:19 PM	#31
AshenREAPER The Nether Traitor Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: I'm in your TV, kidnapping your spampa Posts: 5,125 Rep Power: 14 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4 Total Points: 10	Re: I think I may have done it. Heh, no need to worry guys, anything that I've said so far could be googled, as it's nothing but the basics. As such, if Chidori wants to figure stuff out, it's still up to him to do the work. Also, what Chidori had really wasn't much to brag about. Most(probably all) of the character addresses that he figured out were only half correct. All I did was give him a crash course in hexadecimal seeing as that's his main problem for not being able to figure stuff out on his own. If he still can't figure it out, then he really has no right trying to figure out this mod until he investigates how to code on his own and how to do it properly. The addresses he had were all backwards, he's probably lucky his game still works, as experience has taught me that backwards codes typically end with problems with how the game works, data corruption and loss of save files, up to and including completely frying your game. @3500z- Is there a problem mentioning your name? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-23-2009, 08:55 AM	#35
( * ) ITACHI (,',) Genin Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Konoha - The Village Hidden in the Leaf Posts: 252 Rep Power: 0	Re: I think I may have done it. Can we talk about coding on this site??? If we can I will explain some things to Chidori. __________________ Naruto Path of the Ninja 2: Friends Code: Random Wifi, Unfixed Levels! Wifi Names: The Human Torch Old Wifi Names: Shonen Jump Way of Binding 61 () MADARA ()

12-23-2009, 08:58 AM	#36
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12-23-2009, 09:27 AM	#39
( * ) ITACHI (,',) Genin Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Konoha - The Village Hidden in the Leaf Posts: 252 Rep Power: 0	Re: I think I may have done it. ???maybe not??? Some one told me not too! Try asking Hojo nice! He might not give you the mod, but he might push you in the right direction to figuring it out. Spoiler: The power to learn until you head explodes! __________________ Naruto Path of the Ninja 2: Friends Code: Random Wifi, Unfixed Levels! Wifi Names: The Human Torch Old Wifi Names: Shonen Jump Way of Binding 61 () MADARA () Last edited by ( ) ITACHI (,',); 12-23-2009 at 09:29 AM.*

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