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Old 12-11-2009, 09:39 PM   #41
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A generalization based on the edits their editors have made. Let's focus on just one.

If you read the typical graphic novel format of Naruto that you can buy at the common bookstore, a Borders or whatever, you might notice something odd looking going on with the drawings of Shikamaru immediately after Asuma's death.

In chapter 331, his mouth is opened abmnormally all the time. And then on page 5 you see his hand, as if grasping something, but there's nothing there. I thought it looked like he was smoking.

Then in chapter 338, Shikamaru holds Asuma's lighter up near his mouth, but there's nothing there. If you look at an scan online, you can see he's lighting a cigarette. And in the American thing, he throws the lighter in order to set off the bombs and kill Hidan. He was actually throwing, in the uncut, the cigarette.

Apparently, in America, manga can include smoking on any level if the person is of the legal age. We see this with Ogata 9 Dan in the A-rated Hikaru no Go and Sanji in the T-rated One Piece. But apparently, if an underage person is smoking they have to edit it. This is found in Naruto, and in volume 1-2 of Hikaru no Go, when Tetsuo Kaga "puts out his gum on the go board". They made several inconsistencies when they edited that one. Another time, in Whistle, Shigeki Sato is shown smoking and an editor's note is written next to it that says "Chocolate cigarette, no smoking!"

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i think editing is not bad since kids also read mangas, but i am a teen so i don't like it at all.
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I kinda realized this awhile back. But it still sucks. T_T
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A generalization based on the edits their editors have made. Let's focus on just one.

If you read the typical graphic novel format of Naruto that you can buy at the common bookstore, a Borders or whatever, you might notice something odd looking going on with the drawings of Shikamaru immediately after Asuma's death.

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Then in chapter 338, Shikamaru holds Asuma's lighter up near his mouth, but there's nothing there. If you look at an scan online, you can see he's lighting a cigarette. And in the American thing, he throws the lighter in order to set off the bombs and kill Hidan. He was actually throwing, in the uncut, the cigarette.

Apparently, in America, manga can include smoking on any level if the person is of the legal age. We see this with Ogata 9 Dan in the A-rated Hikaru no Go and Sanji in the T-rated One Piece. But apparently, if an underage person is smoking they have to edit it. This is found in Naruto, and in volume 1-2 of Hikaru no Go, when Tetsuo Kaga "puts out his gum on the go board". They made several inconsistencies when they edited that one. Another time, in Whistle, Shigeki Sato is shown smoking and an editor's note is written next to it that says "Chocolate cigarette, no smoking!"

Just something I noticed and decided to look into.

Nothing new here. Just one of the MANY edits that were made. They should just leave the manga and the anime alone,if all they do is edit them. People want it the same, as it's in Japan...with nothing cut out! It's became a bad habit of theirs to deprive us of scenes.
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Nothing new here. Just one of the MANY edits that were made. They should just leave the manga and the anime alone,if all they do is edit them. People want it the same, as it's in Japan...with nothing cut out! It's became a bad habit of theirs to deprive us of scenes.
Again...you can not blame the editors for many of the censoring decisions they make. The threat of low sales due to offensive material is very real; it's something every single entertainment company has to consider. KIDS may want it, but the adults are now and ever shall be a deciding factor.

Case in point: tabletop wargames. A certain popular British based company (mind you this is where people buy model armies, put them together, and play a super-advanced game of chess with them) produced a winged demon and sold it in America. People along the "bible belt" were offended because they thought its face resembled the face of Satan. They had to remodel the head just to ensure the products success.

And again...I know that the more edgy stuff makes it nice and fun, but It's hardly depriving you of anything. At least, nothing important
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But there is Teen rating on the back of them. If it's okay to have this kind of stuff in video games, then it should be alright in manga. If I'm gonna pay for something, I want all of it, not some watered down kiddie verison of it.
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Another valid point. It is expensive, $10 for a book that takes me half an hour to read. And the parents could make a rule that their kid can't read teen books until they're ready for the content. I had that rule, I'm still not allowed to read T+.
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That or handle it maturely and be able to distinguish fiction from reality. My parents have no problem with my reading selections because they know that I'm mature and responsible enough to handle it. It should be up to the reader to choose whether or not they want to read something as teh author intended it to be. If they don't want to then, they don't have to buy it. I know that sale prices are a big issue, but seriously, If I'm gonna spend several hundred dollors buying this stuff, I want the full package. Maybe it shouldn't be marketed towards those of a younger viewing auidence in the first place.
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