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Old 12-05-2009, 07:08 PM   #1
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Default What do these facts mean as far as our perceptions of iraq and afghanistan.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/...ce-of-bin.html

An .. interesting read.

Are the facts presented accurate?
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:13 PM   #2
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Default Re: What do these facts mean as far as our perceptions of iraq and afghanistan.

I wouldnt say accurate, but i will say never trust the media completly cause there icky and there souls are poo.

But we didnt ask for the war like obama said we were just doing what we think is best and then they came and attacked us cause there pist of at us for no reason.
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:20 PM   #3
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Media = Doesn't care about the truth. A majority of the time, they make up crap because people who are ignorant, stupid, or too lazy to care (much of the American population) will believe it. If the link said .gov instead of .com I would trust it more, but right now not so much. The parts about Bush planning the war before it actually happened I had already long suspected, so this is merely confirmation of that. The rest, that's a bit sketchy to me.

But to be honest, I didn't read all of it, so my opinion may change if I ever actually read the whole thing.
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:22 PM   #4
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Didn't Saddam fund the terrorist that committed 9/11?
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:23 PM   #5
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Default Re: What do these facts mean as far as our perceptions of iraq and afghanistan.

Media people are not always honest. They just want people to read it, so they can earn money.
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:54 AM   #6
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They certainly seem valid, but when dealing with the media, statements like those are hardly ever able to be proven. It would have been nice to see a bibliography of some sort, citing where they got all these quotes from supposed intelligence agencies and officials. Granted there were hyperlinks to provide more detailed accounts of some of the generalizations, or to provide support for their arguments, most of these led to another section of the very same website, or to places like MSNBC, who, like fox, have been known to do more than just spin a story their way. It all looks to me like speculation. Very professional speculation, but still...

And sort of strayed away from 'the other side' of the arguments, like WHY bush chose not to accept some of these deals. Perhaps the terms were unfavorable, or did not accomplish all the goals that he wished to meet, etc. etc. This is very trademark of 'spinning' or 'twisting' the details.
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An .. interesting read.

Are the facts presented accurate?
They seemed like they would make sense, but I saw little evidence that they were actually facts, and not anything more than theories.

The theories were, as you said, interesting.
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Seems to be too sketchy for me.
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