Haku V.S. Suigetsu

[Minoru]

Haku V.S. Suigetsu, who would win?

Please say:
-Who would win in a battle. Why? How?
-Which one you like more. Why?
-Who would be more devoted to Zabuza, if he were still alive.

Conditions of battle:
-No limits
-If Haku was still alive and training

[Lone Wolf]

Suigetsu stomps with Suika No Jutsu and being a much better character.

[Minoru]

I think that Suigetsu would win, but it'd be a close fight.

[Lone Wolf]

No it wouldn't... Suigetsu stomps with no effort with Suika No Jutsu, and Haku has no counter for it.

[InuyashaGirl]

i think maybe haku would be able to freeze suigetsu since theres so much water
and one question is this if haku was still alive and training?
i liked haku more suigetsus to lazy
Haku+zabuza=loyalty

[Minoru]

But Haku has his mirrors, and we still don't know about all of his abilities, because he died too soon. (If he were to have survived and went on, he would surely become stronger than Suigetsu.)

Everyone, debate.

[Lone Wolf]

Dude... Haku's Makyo Hyosho can't do crap to Suigetsu.

[Kakashi-Hatake]

I think Haku would win, because his manipulation of ice can freeze Suigetsu.

-Who would win in a battle. Why? How?
-Which one you like more. Why?
I like Suigetsu more because of his laid back personality, and his abilities.
-Who would be more devoted to Zabuza, if he were still alive.
Haku would, because Suigetsu was a mere servant to the 7 Swordsmen of the Mist.

[InuyashaGirl]

if haku didnt die he would be awsome
and if they fought back then seguiesu would probably be weak to

[Lone Wolf]

Originally Posted by Kakashi-Hatake

I think Haku would win, because his manipulation of ice can freeze Suigetsu.

-Who would win in a battle. Why? How?
-Which one you like more. Why?
I like Suigetsu more because of his laid back personality, and his abilities.
-Who would be more devoted to Zabuza, if he were still alive.
Haku would, because Suigetsu was a mere servant to the 7 Swordsmen of the Mist.

Haku has only shown 2 Jutsu, Makyo Hyosho and Sensatsu Suisho, Suisho can easily be blocked by Kubikiri Hocho and Makyo Hyosho doesn't use Ice Needles, it uses normal needles which can't do sh1t to Suigetsu's Suika No Jutsu.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Suigetsu wins pretty handily, people keep on assuming Haku can "freeze Suigetsu" but there's no proof of this. Haku uses a water source to make Crystal Ice Mirrors and Thousand Needles of Death and uses Ice Release, but that suddenly means he can freeze Suigetsu now too? I need proof of this.

Haku has no way to kill Suigetsu. Suigetsu can turn into water and senbon won't hurt him. Haku will run out and will be unable to kill him.

If a punch can do damage to Haku, Decapitating Carving Knife will really hurt him if it lands a slash.

I like Haku more, even though he was trained to be an assassin he still had humanity inside him and was a nice person despite the way he was forced to live. He also was a pretty well developed character imo for being so early in the series and only being around for a short time.

Haku is easily more loyal to Zabuza, Suigetsu hasn't shown that he would be loyal to Zabuza while Haku gave his life for Zabua.

[Kakashi-Hatake]

Originally Posted by rocklee_112713

Suigetsu wins pretty handily, people keep on assuming Haku can "freeze Suigetsu" but there's no proof of this. Haku uses a water source to make Crystal Ice Mirrors and Thousand Needles of Death and uses Ice Release, but that suddenly means he can freeze Suigetsu now too? I need proof of this.

Haku has no way to kill Suigetsu. Suigetsu can turn into water and senbon won't hurt him. Haku will run out and will be unable to kill him.

If a punch can do damage to Haku, Decapitating Carving Knife will really hurt him if it lands a slash.

I like Haku more, even though he was trained to be an assassin he still had humanity inside him and was a nice person despite the way he was forced to live. He also was a pretty well developed character imo for being so early in the series and only being around for a short time.

Haku is easily more loyal to Zabuza, Suigetsu hasn't shown that he would be loyal to Zabuza while Haku gave his life for Zabua.

In a flashback, Haku has been shown to manipulate ice.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by Kakashi-Hatake

In a flashback, Haku has been shown to manipulate ice.

That doesn't necessarily mean he'd be able to freeze Suigetsu completely. Also, who's to say he'd know of Suigetsu's ability from the start? He would have to see Suigetsu use it before knowing what to do, and that's assuming Haku survives to see it.

[Cyl]

Originally Posted by Deidara Bro

But Haku has his mirrors, and we still don't know about all of his abilities, because he died too soon. (If he were to have survived and went on, he would surely become stronger than Suigetsu.)

Everyone, debate.

♠ Well we usually only go by the jutsu that are already seen and known...

saying otherwise would be like minato beats so and so because hes got to have more jutsu than we saw!

*dissapears*

[narutoultra]

I'd say suigetsu wins this, first off how exactly does Haku plan to get Suigetsu into ice mirrors without PIS? his Taijutsu is much better in that case, and he is faster. Now even if he does get caught in ice mirrors, then what do you think Haku is going to do? Throw completly and utterly harmless needless, giving Suigetsu time to break free before Halu figures out that Suigetsu is water. Also givin that Stage Laws are in affect, Suigetsu should have enough water to go giant, meaning Haku would truelly have no way to hurt him.

I'm not sure whom i like more, i haven't formed an opinion on these two

Haku is easily more loyal, what did suigetsu ever do to prove loyalty? He stole his sword. not very good.

[MannyGAGA]

im a die hard haku fan,but suigetsu wins this.

haku can use the ice senbon and sui will just turn into water and be free

but if haku was still alive today he may have learned how to make things turn into ice,but right now suigetsu wins

[Ayokana]

Originally Posted by rocklee_112713

Suigetsu wins pretty handily, people keep on assuming Haku can "freeze Suigetsu" but there's no proof of this. Haku uses a water source to make Crystal Ice Mirrors and Thousand Needles of Death and uses Ice Release, but that suddenly means he can freeze Suigetsu now too? I need proof of this.

Haku has no way to kill Suigetsu. Suigetsu can turn into water and senbon won't hurt him. Haku will run out and will be unable to kill him.

If a punch can do damage to Haku, Decapitating Carving Knife will really hurt him if it lands a slash.

I like Haku more, even though he was trained to be an assassin he still had humanity inside him and was a nice person despite the way he was forced to live. He also was a pretty well developed character imo for being so early in the series and only being around for a short time.

Haku is easily more loyal to Zabuza, Suigetsu hasn't shown that he would be loyal to Zabuza while Haku gave his life for Zabua.

I agree with this 100%

[Kuromaki]

Suigetsu stomps, Haku doesn't start out with Crystal Ice Mirrors and he has no defense for the Zabuza Sword, while Suigetsu can tank everything Haku throws at him by using his hydration technique, plus Suigetsu is faster outside of the mirrors. Haku hasn't shown he can freeze Suigetsu and he probably doesn't even know about his ability.

I like Suigetsu more, because of his funny personality, and his water abilities are interesting. He has a cute smile too but yeah.

Haku would be much more loyal to Zabuza since he even sacrificed his life for him, Suigetsu hasn't shown this for Zabuza and he even took his sword.

[icy-j]

I think this is a lot more interesting fight then what some people think. Haku has shown in my opinion faster speed feats. I am going mostly by anime, so some of these might be filler. Haku when taking Zabuza away and his speed in his mirrors. These to me are faster then Suigetsu speedblitzing some non ninja or just stepping in a few times to block an attack.

Haku has also seen Zabuza's sword his entire life and probally trained with Zabuza who most likely has better control and fighting skills with the sword. Suigetsu really hasn't shown anything other then Tai and hydration. Another thing is on the conditions you added. We can assume Haku would be even better then what we only saw from him. Meaning he probally can manipulate water into ice more for his techniques, also he would be faster.

Here is the only way Haku can win though. His needles should have no effect on Suigetsu, but Haku would realize his needles going through him and see that Suigetsu is made of water. The only way is if Haku can somehow freeze Suigetsu, which there really isn't any proof of this, but Haku does make his ice mirrors from water so.... Suigetsu is all water, but like I said there really isn't no proof but idk.

I would lean towards Suigetsu, but like I said it should be more interesting then what some people are saying by Suigetsu stomping. To answer your other questions, I like Suigetsu more since he uses a giant sword and is made out of water. Haku would be more devoted for sure.

[amaterasuchidori]

I love Haku and all but Suigestsu would just be able to turn to water and dodge his senbon and then use his sword

P.S. you spelled suigetsu wrong in the tag