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[Miles Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by SPAM [bot]

Since when has she dodged super sonic needles?

But he still has them.

It depends if she pulls them out in time.

Iron Sand=Supersonic

Chiyo can summon puppets faster than Haku uses needles.

[SPAM [bot]]

Originally Posted by rocklee_112713

Iron Sand=Supersonic

Chiyo can summon puppets faster than Haku uses needles.

Actually, Haku can take out his needles faster, when he's in the ice mirrors, he's constantly pulling out needle to throw at his enemy. In one panel, Haku could spit out many needles while it takes two panels, as you said, for Chiyo to summon puppets.

[shantanu]

I think shino needs some better placement and also about obito uchoha-he is low chunnin u r kiddin

[Miles Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by SPAM [bot]

Actually, Haku can take out his needles faster, when he's in the ice mirrors, he's constantly pulling out needle to throw at his enemy. In one panel, Haku could spit out many needles while it takes two panels, as you said, for Chiyo to summon puppets.

Not in base form he can't =/

Also, you haven't proved how Haku can hit Chiyo when I've given feats that show Chiyo has higher reaction time than Haku's speed.

[Fan of Minato]

"Orochimaru (With Prep Time for Edo Tensei)
Nagato/Pain"
I'd say Pain would be above Orochimaru. Even with prep the people brought about are really really weaker then their true selves.
And I'd say that even if its a first and second hokage, Pain's six paths can overwhelm them and there's Gedo which can absorb their souls in the end.

[Kuromaki]

Moved Kakuzu up, finally.

Originally Posted by KonanSenpai

Why is Chiyo so high? She just has allot of knowledge, she can't even take down an Akatsuki member by her self, also I think Kisame is a bit to high, he hasn't shown anything really that great, FWR he seemed more stronger against Team Guy than his normal self IMO.

Sasori>Chiyo so that's why she couldn't beat him, and her 10 puppets can take down a lot of characters, Kisame can absorb chakra and heal himself, he almost beat Killer Bee.

Originally Posted by HidanSenpai

This should be a obvious mistake but, how is Hidan lower than Asuma? Seriously

Asuma is faster and a good tactician, and his placement is based on their overall abilities.

Originally Posted by SPAM [bot]

Why is Chiyo so high? Even Haku can beat her.

Major Chiyo underrating there.

Originally Posted by icy-j

I agree with Kisame being to high, even though he proved he can beat KB. He shouldn't be above Itachi, since I doubt he could beat him. Debated that fight probally 3 times, so I'll just leave my opinion on that.

I still think Raikage and KB are overrated, but that is just my opinion. Mainly, based on how easy Kisame beat KB, and seems in every Raikage debate people think his is untouchable due to Raiton Armor and can just speed blitz everyone. Itachi can Tsukuyomi probally both of them, Amatersu was proved to be able to go through Raiton armor. Sasori's Iron sand and poison could possibly beat them, or he could just fly up with some of the sand and Raikage can't do much.

Another thing is the Akatsuki have proven to take down all the tailed beasts down with really no effort. Even KB, like I said Kisame took him down pretty easily.

Kisame beat KB mainly because of Samehada's chakra sucking powers and his water globe.

Tsukuyomi is ineffective on KB and it's unknown if it works on Raikage, Raikage can dodge Ammy and KB could dodge or substitute out of it.

Originally Posted by shantanu

I think shino needs some better placement and also about obito uchoha-he is low chunnin u r kiddin

Feats?

Originally Posted by Fan of Minato

"Orochimaru (With Prep Time for Edo Tensei)
Nagato/Pain"
I'd say Pain would be above Orochimaru. Even with prep the people brought about are really really weaker then their true selves.
And I'd say that even if its a first and second hokage, Pain's six paths can overwhelm them and there's Gedo which can absorb their souls in the end.

Depends on who Orochimaru summons.

[Yuuta]

Originally Posted by Fan of Minato

"Orochimaru (With Prep Time for Edo Tensei)
Nagato/Pain"
I'd say Pain would be above Orochimaru. Even with prep the people brought about are really really weaker then their true selves.
And I'd say that even if its a first and second hokage, Pain's six paths can overwhelm them and there's Gedo which can absorb their souls in the end.

I think if Orochimaru managed to summon the first, second, and fourth Hokage, he would win against Pain. Minato was supposed to be the most powerful ninja ever, besides the Sage of Six Paths.

[Yuuta]

I think Hidan could beat Asuma, his immortality really negates most of Asuma's skills, and his taijutsu is slightly better than Asuma's. He was able to handle Asuma, Shikamaru's jutsu, and some attacks from Kotetsu & Izumo at once, I think Asuma alone loses.
I think Temari might be able to beat Asuma as well. Temari's wind jutsu keeps Asuma away, and Kamatari takes care of the rest.

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Yuuta

I think Hidan could beat Asuma, his immortality really negates most of Asuma's skills, and his taijutsu is slightly better than Asuma's. He was able to handle Asuma, Shikamaru's jutsu, and some attacks from Kotetsu & Izumo at once, I think Asuma alone loses.
I think Temari might be able to beat Asuma as well. Temari's wind jutsu keeps Asuma away, and Kamatari takes care of the rest.

Asuma alone might lose, but his placement is based on their overall abilities, as said before.

I don't think Temari can beat Asuma, he has overall better stats and Fire>Wind. Kamatari can take him out, though, I doubt she'd pull it out in the beginning.

[Yuuta]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Asuma alone might lose, but his placement is based on their overall abilities, as said before.

I don't think Temari can beat Asuma, he has overall better stats and Fire>Wind. Kamatari can take him out, though, I doubt she'd pull it out in the beginning.

Yeah, and Hidan's immortality really beats Asuma's chakra blades in terms of abilities.

Oh yeah...But her strongest move is a winner.

[Kisame]

1. I think Mizuki should be above or below Iruka, he was defeated by a thousand clones from an exhausted academy Naruto, those clones would've been extremely weak.

2. Konan above Zabuza possibly, the only real danger is the Suiton which takes a lot of prep time and he needs a large water source, the mist jutsu won't be very helpful because she can disperse, the chakra it takes to maintain it would finally tax him out.

3. Tsunade possibly above Mizukage, she's an expert in dodging so it shouldn't be too hard to dodge her lava, her regen can help her overcome the mist and she has enough chakra to heal a whole village, so she can keep it up long enough, plus the jutsu needs a closed space to be most effective in.

4. Nagato/Pain above Orochimaru, Deva has summoned Gedou Mazou before, so I imagine it's possible to use it combat wise, he could have not summoned it before because he needed Naruto alive and he didn't want to attract to much attention in his village, so Nagato could summon him and link up and proceed to suck up the zombie's souls.

5. Wouldn't Shukaku be above Gaara? Shukaku can regen iirc since he grew an arm after Shuaku cut his off and his wind blast nearly took out Gamabunta.

Well, that's basically it.

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Yuuta

Yeah, and Hidan's immortality really beats Asuma's chakra blades in terms of abilities.

Oh yeah...But her strongest move is a winner.

You see, even if Hidan can beat him in a fair fight, that would be putting him above Asuma who is arguably superior to Suigetsu and Temari, but Suigetsu can beat Hidan because of hydration technique, Temari might be able to beat him too but I'm not sure on that one. So I based that on overall abilities.

Originally Posted by Kisame

1. I think Mizuki should be above or below Iruka, he was defeated by a thousand clones from an exhausted academy Naruto, those clones would've been extremely weak.

2. Konan above Zabuza possibly, the only real danger is the Suiton which takes a lot of prep time and he needs a large water source, the mist jutsu won't be very helpful because she can disperse, the chakra it takes to maintain it would finally tax him out.

3. Tsunade possibly above Mizukage, she's an expert in dodging so it shouldn't be too hard to dodge her lava, her regen can help her overcome the mist and she has enough chakra to heal a whole village, so she can keep it up long enough, plus the jutsu needs a closed space to be most effective in.

4. Nagato/Pain above Orochimaru, Deva has summoned Gedou Mazou before, so I imagine it's possible to use it combat wise, he could have not summoned it before because he needed Naruto alive and he didn't want to attract to much attention in his village, so Nagato could summon him and link up and proceed to suck up the zombie's souls.

5. Wouldn't Shukaku be above Gaara? Shukaku can regen iirc since he grew an arm after Shuaku cut his off and his wind blast nearly took out Gamabunta.

Well, that's basically it.

Mizuki doesn't really have a lot to work with but neither does Iruka, at least Mizuki has giant shuriken, so I'll move him below Izumo.

Okay, I'll move Konan up, then again she can possibly fly out of the hidden mist jutsu.

Moving Tsunade and Shukaku up, forgot about soul sucking Gedou Mazou on Nagato so he's moved up too.

Edit; Added Kin, Yoroi, Misumi, Shigure, and Yashamaru.

Added Kin's teammates, Zaku and Dosu, as well. I based the above placements off of the wiki.

[Yuuta]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

You see, even if Hidan can beat him in a fair fight, that would be putting him above Asuma who is arguably superior to Suigetsu and Temari, but Suigetsu can beat Hidan because of hydration technique, Temari might be able to beat him too but I'm not sure on that one. So I based that on overall abilities.

Whoa whoa whoa! How is Asuma > Suigetsu?
Asuma, with two chakra blades, has never shown the advantage over a single-weapon user - Kisame, Hidan. If he could cut Suigetsu's sword he would have been able to cut Hidan's scythe. Suigetsu would probably beat him in straight taijutsu, when you add his great water arm jutsu. Also, if he's hit, he has his hydration jutsu. Water's weak to fire, Suigetsu and his hydration jutsu would probably not be affected. And if Suigetsu goes into his wave mode, he really owns Asuma.

Can I request that Darui and Shi be added? I would say Darui's under Temari, and Shi's...er...Under Hidan? Or Kabuto? But definetly above Jugo.

And I'm just waiting for one last response from deidara330. My silence has been compromised, but now I realized I don't like it. Once I get the response, I'll start debating for Konan again.

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Yuuta

Whoa whoa whoa! How is Asuma > Suigetsu?
Asuma, with two chakra blades, has never shown the advantage over a single-weapon user - Kisame, Hidan. If he could cut Suigetsu's sword he would have been able to cut Hidan's scythe. Suigetsu would probably beat him in straight taijutsu, when you add his great water arm jutsu. Also, if he's hit, he has his hydration jutsu. Water's weak to fire, Suigetsu and his hydration jutsu would probably not be affected. And if Suigetsu goes into his wave mode, he really owns Asuma.

Can I request that Darui and Shi be added? I would say Darui's under Temari, and Shi's...er...Under Hidan? Or Kabuto? But definetly above Jugo.

And I'm just waiting for one last response from deidara330. My silence has been compromised, but now I realized I don't like it. Once I get the response, I'll start debating for Konan again.

Asuma has shown better speed, and Ash Pile Burning would explode around Suigetsu, who hasn't shown very good durability against chakra blasts, so explosions might take him out. Suigetsu would pwn in wave monster mode but that would require specific locations with water.

How does Shi beat Jugo with just healing and Lightning Flash genjutsu? I don't know very much about his abilities.

Darui's shown good swordsmanship skills and some water/lightning style attacks, so I'll place him right under Temari, for now.

[Yuuta]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Asuma has shown better speed, and Ash Pile Burning would explode around Suigetsu, who hasn't shown very good durability against chakra blasts, so explosions might take him out. Suigetsu would pwn in wave monster mode but that would require specific locations with water.

How does Shi beat Jugo with just healing and Lightning Flash genjutsu? I don't know very much about his abilities.

Darui's shown good swordsmanship skills and some water/lightning style attacks, so I'll place him right under Temari, for now.

I disagree, Suigetsu's speedblitzed to save Sasuke.
He was hit by chidori, right? He's weak to lightning. If his hydration jutsu is weak to lightning, though, it must be strong against fire. And the only other chakra blast he was hit with was the 8 tails...And that was a chakra blast if there ever was one.

Well, Jugo did fall for his genjutsu, he could probably kill him.
If not though, because we haven't seen much, why not around Kurenai's level?

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Yuuta

I disagree, Suigetsu's speedblitzed to save Sasuke.
He was hit by chidori, right? He's weak to lightning. If his hydration jutsu is weak to lightning, though, it must be strong against fire. And the only other chakra blast he was hit with was the 8 tails...And that was a chakra blast if there ever was one.

Well, Jugo did fall for his genjutsu, he could probably kill him.
If not though, because we haven't seen much, why not around Kurenai's level?

I dunno, Suigetsu's around Subsonic, Asuma's at least Sonic according to the battleground wiki. Suigetsu needs to show more. He tanked Hachibi's chakra blast but he needed his Wave monster form. Blocking the Zabuza Sword shouldn't be too hard since Asuma blocked Samehada, and his speed would give little time for Suigetsu to react.

Shi has only shown Genjutsu that won't necessarily kill a person, and some healing.

[Yuuta]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

I dunno, Suigetsu's around Subsonic, Asuma's at least Sonic according to the battleground wiki. Suigetsu needs to show more. He tanked Hachibi's chakra blast but he needed his Wave monster form. Blocking the Zabuza Sword shouldn't be too hard since Asuma blocked Samehada, and his speed would give little time for Suigetsu to react.

Shi has only shown Genjutsu that won't necessarily kill a person, and some healing.

Err...Wasn't battleground wiki made off of this forum?
Also, wasn't Asuma still cut by Samehada when he blocked it? Suigetsu with his water arms would probably be fast and strong enough to over take Asuma.

I'm assuming Shi has a kunai or something so he can take care of people in his genjutsu.

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Yuuta

Err...Wasn't battleground wiki made off of this forum?
Also, wasn't Asuma still cut by Samehada when he blocked it? Suigetsu with his water arms would probably be fast and strong enough to over take Asuma.

I'm assuming Shi has a kunai or something so he can take care of people in his genjutsu.

Right, he hasn't shown one though, if I'm not mistaken.

Samehada>Zabuza Sword. The wind blades can extend, and give Asuma the advantage in close range, even with Suigetsu's watery form.

[321zigzag1]

Suigetsu isn't slow. He was fast enough to intercept Raikage although Raikage wasn't going all out in speed in the beginning

[SPAM [bot]]

I'll admit, Chiyo has a good chance of winning against Haku, but why is she so far up? I don't think she'd be able to beat Yamato or Might Guy.