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Old 11-20-2009, 05:36 AM   #1
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1. Which weapon is more useful?
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3. If two people of equal skill with each weapon fought, who would emerge the victor?
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Old 11-20-2009, 06:11 AM   #2
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I'm reminded of an episode of "Lock and Load" with R Lee Emery on History Channel that had these 2 swords.
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:55 PM   #3
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a katana can cut through bown with a clean slice and it is light weight the person holding the two hander would be dead ten times over before he even blinked
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Old 11-20-2009, 04:19 PM   #5
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a katana can cut through bown with a clean slice
And? It's not exactly amazingly superior compared to the two hander in cutting. It only has the advantage of being curved to create a better cutting edge.

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and it is light weight the person holding the two hander would be dead ten times over before he even blinked
A European longsword and a Katana weigh about the same.
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Looking at how the weapons are made. The katana is structurely stronger because of the way it's made. Also the Katana is more versitile because it is light enough to be used 1 handed but it has a handle long enough to be used 2 handed for extra power.
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Looking at how the weapons are made. The katana is structurely stronger because of the way it's made.
The way it was made helped make up for the poor iron quality that made it up.

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Also the Katana is more versitile because it is light enough to be used 1 handed but it has a handle long enough to be used 2 handed for extra power.
I should probably have made this a Bastard sword.

However, no one seriously uses a katana one-handed. No one. It's built to be used with the full strength of the body behind its cuts.
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I THINK a KATANA and why did the link say obamaskatana? xD
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I should probably have made this a Bastard sword.

However, no one seriously uses a katana one-handed. No one. It's built to be used with the full strength of the body behind its cuts.

The poor iron quality might have been the reason the folding style was made but in its hayday it was made with steel and if they are both made from the same materials it is stronger.

I know not many used a katana 1 handed but it is an option. Myamoto Musashi developed a 2 handed style with katana and was never defeated in a dual.

Also the way the katana is used there are no wasted motion or energy for the user. The long sword most try to use both edges of the blade and that puts more strain on the wielder because they stop all momentum and then go in the opposite direction where as the katana user makes a small sweeping motion to block and then attack after.
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The poor iron quality might have been the reason the folding style was made but in its hayday it was made with steel and if they are both made from the same materials it is stronger.
Poor iron quality means poor steel quality.

Historical katanas often broke.

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I know not many used a katana 1 handed but it is an option. Myamoto Musashi developed a 2 handed style with katana and was never defeated in a dual.
But in general, you wanted to use it as a two-handed blade.

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Also the way the katana is used there are no wasted motion or energy for the user. The long sword most try to use both edges of the blade and that puts more strain on the wielder because they stop all momentum and then go in the opposite direction where as the katana user makes a small sweeping motion to block and then attack after.
Both styles of sword-play had their problems. The long sword is actually easier to block with due to the cruciform guard, both sides of the blade being available, and its symmetrical shape. It was also much better at thrusting due to its longer range and more straight shape. As mentioned before, the two handed sword is longer, giving a range advantage.

And how come the long sword user can't do the exact same thing you mentioned above? It's not like he has to use both sides.
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Katana > tank > euro-sword.
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European Two Handed Sword looks like garbage, I well take a Claymore Sword over that, and I well take a Japanese Kanabo over the Claymore and Katana
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If you are pitting a templar knight vs a samurai of equal skill and normal complexion of a person of the zone I am going to favor the templar.

While the weapons where cruder a 2 handed sword kill more often of the blund damage it deals than the cutting power.
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european sword definitely but leaning toward katana, because if you surge lightnin chakra you could paralyze the user
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European Two Handed Sword looks like garbage, I well take a Claymore Sword over that, and I well take a Japanese Kanabo over the Claymore and Katana
Why does it look like garbage?

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If you are pitting a templar knight vs a samurai of equal skill and normal complexion of a person of the zone I am going to favor the templar.

While the weapons where cruder a 2 handed sword kill more often of the blund damage it deals than the cutting power.
What blunt damage? It's a sword, it cuts things, it stabs things, it's not used for blunt damage.

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I'm sure that most people can surge lightning chakra through a blade.
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What blunt damage? It's a sword, it cuts things, it stabs things, it's not used for blunt damage.

If you are not familiar with mediavel comabt claymores and the like most of the time kill due to impact damage rather than cutting, most of them didn't even have a proper cutting edge.
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If you are not familiar with mediavel comabt claymores and the like most of the time kill due to impact damage rather than cutting, most of them didn't even have a proper cutting edge.
The sword is not a combat claymore.

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The fact that the Broad Sword is straight edged means it will do more damage on impact, becuase it is a clean strike through. It will be crippled in slicing though, because it's straight edged, it's harder to slice someone because you'd have to slice them in a perfect line.

Katana is curved, and so it's direct impact will be crippled because it's mainly used for quick slicing, not power strikes. But it's slicing abilities are incredable, it's shaped to do quick, direct slices.

The weight is the same, which means the same speed and movement. Although the Katana is easier to slice in tight spaces, because it's curved edged, In a spread out battlefield the Katana has no advantage.

Two hands means better control, harder strikes, and more powerful defensive blocks due to the fact you have two arms moving it, not one.

European Broad Sword > Katana
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