NaruSaku - SasuSaku - NaruHina Debate Central

[NightofMagic]

Ooooh. Im not really good at debating so ill just say this.
I like Sasusaku because Sakura has been through alot with Sasuke. Has always been there for him, and saved his life multiple times. And i do believe somewhere deep down Sasuke has some sort of romantic feeling for Sakura. And maybe Sakura is falling for Naruto, but i sitll think she loves Sasuke. Sakura even confessed her love for him, and who knows...Maybe he kissed her on the forhead before he left.

[Zarkawi]

Originally Posted by TwilightLink20xx

That is true, but the problem with NaruHina is that Naruto has never shown any interest in Hinata, even after her confession. As a matter of fact, we haven't seen Hinata since chapter 450, which was when Sakura hugged Naruto, something she smiled at. It is my opinion that if NaruHina were to have become cannon because of the confession, this plot piece would have had to be addressed within chapters, during the down-time Kohona had.

However, Kishimoto did not, he chose to focus on Naruto and Sakura's bond. It's been around 30 chapters (give or take) since the confession, and there has been nothing to hint at something comming from that event. Because of that, I'd say that NaruHina is dead in the water, and that that confession was for Hinata's development.
Everyone cool?

I disagree, I think that the reason he hasn't mentioned it is because Naruto is far more concerned with Sasuke right now. To be honest, Kishimoto has made no mention that Naruto is even interested in Sakura since those chapters. I kind of doubt that he'd just make the Narusaku pairing happen because that would crush hinata terribly. Think about it, Hinata's entire ninja life has been trying to get noticed by Naruto or trying to be like Naruto. If Naruto was suddenly with Sakura, she'd be heartbroken, and while i don't think suicide is likely, perhaps she'd abandon her career as a ninja?

At any rate, if Sakura ends up telling Naruto that she loves him, I'll throw something at my computer...

Originally Posted by NightofMagic

Ooooh. Im not really good at debating so ill just say this.
I like Sasusaku because Sakura has been through alot with Sasuke. Has always been there for him, and saved his life multiple times. And i do believe somewhere deep down Sasuke has some sort of romantic feeling for Sakura. And maybe Sakura is falling for Naruto, but i sitll think she loves Sasuke. Sakura even confessed her love for him, and who knows...Maybe he kissed her on the forhead before he left.

Edit: I forgot to even mention sasusaku . I don't really care about what happens with sakura (as long as it's not Narusaku haha), but I do agree that Sasuke has some feelings for his old team.

Spoiler:

I think it was when Sasuke was fighting the Hachibi, he thought about Naruto, Sakura, and Kakashi, it wasn't elaborated on if i recall, but it makes me think he might someday come back. Possibly cause I think the final battle will be Naruto+Sasuke vs. Madara w/ 8 tailed beast powers O.o

[NightofMagic]

Originally Posted by Zarkawi

I disagree, I think that the reason he hasn't mentioned it is because Naruto is far more concerned with Sasuke right now. To be honest, Kishimoto has made no mention that Naruto is even interested in Sakura since those chapters. I kind of doubt that he'd just make the Narusaku pairing happen because that would crush hinata terribly. Think about it, Hinata's entire ninja life has been trying to get noticed by Naruto or trying to be like Naruto. If Naruto was suddenly with Sakura, she'd be heartbroken, and while i don't think suicide is likely, perhaps she'd abandon her career as a ninja?

At any rate, if Sakura ends up telling Naruto that she loves him, I'll throw something at my computer...

Me too. Hinata deserves Naruto.

[Vocaloid]

Originally Posted by NightofMagic

Me too. Hinata deserves Naruto.

Please explain why you think so. This is a debate thread.

[Zarkawi]

Originally Posted by TwilightLink20xx

Yes, but here's the key difference: Sakura hugged Sasuke who didn't return them, ever. Sakura hugged Naruto, who we know for sure has feelings for Sakura. We don't know what made Sakura do it, but the point is that she did. It's not something to blow off.

Oh, and by the way, Sasuke was either miffed or barely contious whenever Sakura hugged him, so your *didn't push away* theory doesn't work.

And Sasuke has never shown ANY feelings towards Sakura. Could he get them? Yes, but the point is that he doesn't, and Sasuke consistantly says that he hates Konoha, no exceptions.

I think that she hugged him because she was happy he was alive. After all, A lot of people hug others if they're happy to see them, it's not necessarily a sign of love.

[NightofMagic]

I already explained why i liked Sasusaku.
Uhh....and dont feel like explaining Naruhina..

[Bacon]

cc lol im gonna disregard your statement, you said "all i care is narusaku doesnt happen"
but ill humor u ^^
you are always trying to say a hug is nothing, but i dont see sakura hugging every guy from the village when theyre hurt

as for hinata ugh.....kiba clearly has always had special concern for her like in the chunin ecam.
then theres all the times gets annoyed & walks away when she gushes. lastly i believe that when hinata chased him in shipunden scene & left shino hanging proves kuba&hinata are very CLose.
i think theyll be like asuma&kuranai ^^

[NightofMagic]

Originally Posted by bacon_army17

cc lol im gonna disregard your statement, you said "all i care is narusaku doesnt happen"
but ill humor u ^^
you are always trying to say a hug is nothing, but i dont see sakura hugging every guy from the village when theyre hurt

as for hinata ugh.....kiba clearly has always had special concern for her like in the chunin ecam.
then theres all the times gets annoyed & walks away when she gushes. lastly i believe that when hinata chased him in shipunden scene & left shino hanging proves kuba&hinata are very CLose.
i think theyll be like asuma&kuranai ^^

Kiba hasnt really shown any romantic feelings toward Hinata. Who wouldnt get annoyed sometime if she keeps talking about Naruto? i would...but i dont.

C-C is not even on...but ill answer this anyways
Shes not that close to everybody in the village...
who hugs anyone everytime there hurt? not me
And Sakura has hugged Sasuke and supported him when he was hurt

[PHeartsYStars]

Originally Posted by NightofMagic

Ooooh. Im not really good at debating so ill just say this.
I like Sasusaku because Sakura has been through alot with Sasuke. Has always been there for him, and saved his life multiple times. And i do believe somewhere deep down Sasuke has some sort of romantic feeling for Sakura. And maybe Sakura is falling for Naruto, but i sitll think she loves Sasuke. Sakura even confessed her love for him, and who knows...Maybe he kissed her on the forhead before he left.

Sakura through alot with Sasuke? so your expecting Sasuke love to return.. Of course it is..
but does it your making it Sasuke as a PRIZE? is it LOVE?
Your just making your own statements.. THE MANGA/STORY DOES NOT SUPPORT IT or ..
If you based it on the Databook, Sakura's confession has been labeled as an act of SELFISHNESS or according to her desire

Originally Posted by Zarkawi

I disagree, I think that the reason he hasn't mentioned it is because Naruto is far more concerned with Sasuke right now. To be honest, Kishimoto has made no mention that Naruto is even interested in Sakura since those chapters. I kind of doubt that he'd just make the Narusaku pairing happen because that would crush hinata terribly. Think about it, Hinata's entire ninja life has been trying to get noticed by Naruto or trying to be like Naruto. If Naruto was suddenly with Sakura, she'd be heartbroken, and while i don't think suicide is likely, perhaps she'd abandon her career as a ninja?

Kishi does not state any feelings of Naruto?.. are you reading the same manga with us?

Spoiler:

Just a recent chapters ago, Sai has undergone a flashback, stating, NARUTO STILL HAVE FEELINGS FOR SAKURA. does it reaffirm his feelings?

Hinata's aim to develop is to overcome her shyness, boost her confidence, THERE WOULD BE NO PROBLEM IF NARUTO DOES NOT LOVE HER BACK.

At any rate, if Sakura ends up telling Naruto that she loves him, I'll throw something at my computer...

That is your own opinion,
if Sakura will tell Naruto that she loves him.. I'll PARTY ALL NIGHT

Edit: I forgot to even mention sasusaku . I don't really care about what happens with sakura (as long as it's not Narusaku haha), but I do agree that Sasuke has some feelings for his old team.

Spoiler:

I think it was when Sasuke was fighting the Hachibi, he thought about Naruto, Sakura, and Kakashi, it wasn't elaborated on if i recall, but it makes me think he might someday come back. Possibly cause I think the final battle will be Naruto+Sasuke vs. Madara w/ 8 tailed beast powers O.o

GUYS YOUR ARE SOMEWHAT STICKING TO FANDOM.. can you just relate to the Manga?
Sasuke's never never had a flashback, to Sakura since the beginning of Part 2. YOU TOO ARE MAKING YOUR OWN ASSUMPTIONS.

Originally Posted by NightofMagic

Me too. Hinata deserves Naruto.

AS A PRIZE? REMEMBER NARUTO HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO RETURN HINATA's FEELINGS.

Originally Posted by Zarkawi

I think that she hugged him because she was happy he was alive. After all, A lot of people hug others if they're happy to see them, it's not necessarily a sign of love.

That is the so called VALUES DISSONACE apply to this. Japanese CULTURE(where Naruto was made), is different from Western Look at this:

Spoiler:

Then again, compared to her declaring that she "love(s Sasuke) so much (she) cannot stand it," many of Hinata's actions toward Naruto (particularly when she states that she's willing to die protecting him because she loves him in Chapter 437) and Naruto's own overtures of affection toward Sakura, it is subtle enough to be seen as merely (close) friendship.

Keep in mind that in Japan, it's considered much more romantic to be quiet and subtle with expressing love, given their whole values system. Also, the Japanese have...very different attitudes about affectionate contact between men and women. Male and female friends hugging in the U.S is a common sight, and nothing to blink at. (so it totally makes sense if people thought Naruto and Sakura are just friends) In Japan, not so much, given their attitudes about physical contact and modesty. Which is why from the point of view of the average middle-school age Japanese male (who the comic is actually aimed at), the Naruto-Sakura hug would seem unambiguously romantic.

The "hug" (preferably in Public) in Japan is considered in actions of a part Romantic Relationship.(lovers) So, I dont think, Sakura hugging Naruto is just for friendship, but , it is something more

Shes not that close to everybody in the village...
who hugs anyone everytime there hurt? not me
And Sakura has hugged Sasuke and supported him when he was hurt

Sakura's hugging with Sasuke is during the hospital scene (part 1).It is one time only


where in part 2 already, and if your can remeber, Sakura 's feelings for now is AMBIGOUS and clearly states that Sakura's feelings for Naruto had somewhat a "fog" or there is a need to clear.
If you sum it all up, Confusion of the feelings/Can't explain of the feeling= LOVE, in the part of Sakura.

[NightofMagic]

I didnt say as a prize...But wait does Naruto get Sakura AS A PRIZE because hes loved her for so long? Because he's been through so much he deserves Sakura? Sakura doesnt deserve him....
Narusaku is cliche and is boring (IMO)
Main girl X Main boy is so overused

[NightofMagic]

And Sakura has hugged Sasuke more times than that. Chuunin exams, he fell on her after getting bit by Orochimaru, Chuunin exams she hugged him when he wanted him to stop attacking the sound ninja.

[PHeartsYStars]

YOU SASUSAKU FANS STILL HAVE THE GUTS TO FIGHT/PRESENT EVIDENCE that are NONSENSE

You didnt say as a prize...
But you are still REFERRING TO IT, just because SAkura save his Sasuke life? I thought Naruto really save Sakura from most part?

But wait does Naruto get Sakura AS A PRIZE because hes loved her for so long? Because he's been through so much he deserves Sakura? Sakura doesnt deserve him....
Narusaku is cliche and is boring (IMO)
Main girl X Main boy is so overused

Naruto can't get Sakura's as his prize. THERE HAVE DEVELOPMENTs/HINTS THAT IS EVIDENT IN THE MANGA/SERIES. READ MY SPOILER TAG, in my PREVIOUS POST

and Sakura's does not belong to anyone
IT IS STILL SAKURA's DECISION FOR THAT MATTER. and i would say

Spoiler:

SASUSAKU IS MORE BORING THAN EVER! how can a a one-siden love, LACK OF DEVELOPMENTS, can be a CANON.? IT WOULD BE OKAY IF IT IS TO BE FANDOM

[Bacon]

phhearts start partying because i think its almost there ^^.
i also agree there is no problem with naruto not loving hinata back, hes been head over heels for sakura.
lastly to address the hugging thing, i dont hug everyone & think youre just biased. so wat, in part 1 she did those things like hugging &crying.
now she does those things for naruto. thier bond is deeper since she learned of the jinchuruki. she can be herself & has flirted with him, sooo theyre past crushes.
btw because she flirted is a sign that their relationship is past jaraiya &tsunades. lol
sorry to bring them up, but tsunade crys & cares for jaraiya, but she doesnt flirt, or anything like that.
point is narusaku was in this stage post sasukes departure, now in part 2 and currently now. it looks bright for them

[Bacon]

i agree sasusaku fans have guts
chunin exam was the only positive thing
i however find when a simple touch on narutos cheek from sakura wass wayy more positive &romantic than all the things sasusaku fans have ever brought up

[Zetsubou_Sensei]

Originally Posted by NightofMagic

I didnt say as a prize...But wait does Naruto get Sakura AS A PRIZE because hes loved her for so long? Because he's been through so much he deserves Sakura? Sakura doesnt deserve him....
Narusaku is cliche and is boring (IMO)
Main girl X Main boy is so overused

And Shy girl x Main dude isn't? What about Mikuru and Kyon? Or Orihime and Ichigo? How about SasuSaku? Brooding boy x Main girl? Sounds like Zutara to me. It was also used in Vampire Knight and Twilight.
EVERY pairing is cliche.
By the way, I went to NF to find the ground rules for pairing debates and what not to do.
1. Character A can't be with character B, because they'd be a second option!
2. Character A belongs with Character B because Character C is stupid!
3. A/B will happen, because C belongs with D!
4. I have no evidence to back this up, but Character A and Character B belong together!
5. Character A belongs with Character B, so X will have to be with Y!
6. Look at what happened in a filler arc!
7. Character A deserves Character B more than Character C does!
8. A is so important to B that B could neer have a relationship with anyone else!
9. A and B look good together!
10. A and B argue, so they're MARRIED! (Alternatively, "A and B argue, so it's ABUSIVE!")
11. *Overblown metaphor supposedly justifying A/B*
12. A only has a silly crush on B. They'll get over it and become stronger!
13. A can heal B's tormented soul!
14. A understands B's pain, so they MUST be together!
15. They're opposites! (Alternatively, "They're equals!" )
Am I clear? No? Screw that, then.

[Bacon]

lol O.o burned
i like ichigox rukia
but please no more flames. i guess i missed that
ppl just think of it as guy gets girl..... no anger pls ^^
ill try to be calmer too

[TwilightLink20xx]

Alright, first off about all this cliched crap. I don't feel like typing this again, so this is a quote of mine about Main Character X Main Character being cliched.

Originally Posted by TwilightLink20xx

That's not cliche though, that's just what a good writer does. The main character's love interest SHOULD be a main character. I'm not saying that the main girl needs to be the hero's love intrest every time, but the love interest should be well developed and get time on-screen, not be an afterthought. Naruto likes Sakura, who is a well-developed character that has shown signs of possibly having feelings for him. That's not a cliche, that's making a character who you should CARE about. Out of all the females in Naruto's age group, Sakura is the only one I can honestly say I care about because I'm attached to the character. Why? Because Kishimoto has developed her into a character I've connected with. If you think pulling stuff out of the air is better, then I'm sorry, that just isn't good writing style. Granted, this is a very subjective POV, but that's the mentality of most storytellers.

If anything, people, you can call the character archetypes cliched, but DON'T EVER call Main X Main cliched. That's just common writing sense, not a cliche. Cliche is more like, as Zetsubou said, Shy Girl X Hero, Brooding guy X Main Girl, Guy who likes girl X Girl who hates guy at first, but falls for him, etc. Main X Main is ALWAYS going to be a sign of good writing, get over it.

Originally Posted by NightofMagic

Ooooh. Im not really good at debating so ill just say this.
I like Sasusaku because Sakura has been through alot with Sasuke. Has always been there for him, and saved his life multiple times. And i do believe somewhere deep down Sasuke has some sort of romantic feeling for Sakura. And maybe Sakura is falling for Naruto, but i sitll think she loves Sasuke. Sakura even confessed her love for him, and who knows...Maybe he kissed her on the forhead before he left.

Guess what? The same can be said of Naruto and Sakura, they too have been through a lot, even more for that matter, and Naruto has saved Sakura's life on multiple occations, so right there both points are null and void.

And guess what? Kishi didn't show it. If it mattered, then Kishi would show us Sasuke has feelings for Sakura.

And we KNOW Sasuke didn't kiss Sakura on the forehead before he left. If he did, then it would have been important, it would have been something to show Sasuke's character. Guess what? HE DIDN'T. Care to explain why he would if it really IS part of his character?

[Bacon]

lol excelent as always, but twilight atm, all the oppostion has is
everything between sakura& naruto matters not
also i agree mainXmain is sensible ^^

[TwilightLink20xx]

Originally Posted by Zarkawi

I disagree, I think that the reason he hasn't mentioned it is because Naruto is far more concerned with Sasuke right now. To be honest, Kishimoto has made no mention that Naruto is even interested in Sakura since those chapters. I kind of doubt that he'd just make the Narusaku pairing happen because that would crush hinata terribly. Think about it, Hinata's entire ninja life has been trying to get noticed by Naruto or trying to be like Naruto. If Naruto was suddenly with Sakura, she'd be heartbroken, and while i don't think suicide is likely, perhaps she'd abandon her career as a ninja?

First off, the reason Naruto hasn't thought of it is because he has not only been placed on the sidelines over the past few chapters, but he also has NO CLUE AT ALL that Sakura now knows he loves her as much as he does.

As for the so called "Hinata issue", Kishimoto pretty much took care of it in 450 and doesn't ever have to go back to it if he doesn't want to. The confession was for Hinata's development as a character and to tie loose ends. Nothing more, nothing less. Hinata went out on a limb and knew she was going to DIE. Hinata isn't a complete failure, Naruto isn't her only goal in life. If it is, then she really IS a pathetic character, but I truly don't think that's the case. And honestly, you're acting like Naruto and Hinata and Sasuke and Sakura had a relationship to begin with. Guess what? None of these characters have a romantic relationship with ANYONE. The second someone does, then, and only then, will we have a cannon pairing. That's the whole reason we're still here fighting.

At any rate, if Sakura ends up telling Naruto that she loves him, I'll throw something at my computer...

All I can say is don't aim for the screen, lol. (Not saying mine's gonna happen for sure, it isn't my decision, I'm just saying don't rule it out and don't break your PC XD)

Edit: I forgot to even mention sasusaku . I don't really care about what happens with sakura (as long as it's not Narusaku haha), but I do agree that Sasuke has some feelings for his old team.

Spoiler:

I think it was when Sasuke was fighting the Hachibi, he thought about Naruto, Sakura, and Kakashi, it wasn't elaborated on if i recall, but it makes me think he might someday come back. Possibly cause I think the final battle will be Naruto+Sasuke vs. Madara w/ 8 tailed beast powers O.o

I'm not denying that Sasuke doesn't have a thing for his old team, all I'm saying is that he doesn't hold Sakura in a romantic reguard. Point blank.

I've already said all of my stuff about Sasuke's fate, you should all know my position on that one.

Spoiler:

But I do agree that Sasuke will likely side with Naruto at the end of the final battle.

[TwilightLink20xx]

Originally Posted by bacon_army17

lol excelent as always, but twilight atm, all the oppostion has is
everything between sakura& naruto matters not
also i agree mainXmain is sensible ^^

But the point is that it DOES, it isn't something they should be allowed to blow off! It has been SHOWN, therefore has more merit than that which DOESN'T EXIST! Naruto and Sakura have constantly been shown to have something between each other that the other pairings can't hold a candle to, even as just friends. I'm not saying they are in a relationship yet, and I never will until Kishimoto says so, I am saying that they are that much closer to each other than the other two pairings could dream about.