What do you think Shisui meant by "path" - Page 2

3littlepigs · 09-21-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zerosameri

the only reason for him killing his clan is because of the village elder, and it was in the best instreast for the village

The village elders did choose him and gave him the mission but if he had been say Naruto he could've rejected the mission. I agree it was in Konoha's best interest and that's why I'm saying if he killed his own family why wouldn't he kill Shisui just to get MS?

zerosameri · 09-21-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 3littlepigs

The village elders did choose him and gave him the mission but if he had been say Naruto he could've rejected the mission. I agree it was in Konoha's best interest and that's why I'm saying if he killed his own family why wouldn't he kill Shisui just to get MS?

yes he could of said no, but what if he couldn't? yea true why could he just kill Shisui as you said. When Itachi left the Village he was crying (one of Sasuke flash backs. it is one one of the Naruto shippuden books) and seemed like he didn't want to kill them. so if he didn't then why did he? Shisui could of been the mastmind behind the whole thing. Seens Itachi forg the note then why did he write it like he did. Or was all ready prewritten and made to see like it was forg?

ShikamaruGenius · 09-22-2009, 08:48 AM

Itachi did Kill Shisui,If U read the part where Naruto and sasuke fight before he got to orochimaru.U can see sasuke asking if his brother kill shisui and he say yes in his word..It's also says that Shisui was the one who kept an eyes on itachi.maybe He was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.Discovering that Itachi and the elder ar ploting against the uchiua.Itachi killed him before he told the clan.
when the other uchiua are suspecting him u can clearly see that He have his new sharingan he also told his dad that his last mission was to reach the height!And He also use his new sharringan the first time on his own father.Sasuke saw that..
well,danzo was in this plan for sure.He took advantage of this taking shisui eye.It was way off better to tell everybody that it was a suicide note to dont make everybody suspecting him.And the "path" he was talking.U can see that it's actually itachi'S way of thinking..like he dont trust the uchiua anymore ect...
so i really think SHisui was just a tools in this story...The other Uchiua Knew it,it was not the type of guys who just kill hiself for this...And if someone doubt about what IM saying,just tell me if it was a suicide,how Itachi's got his mangekyo activate?

3littlepigs · 09-22-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zerosameri

yes he could of said no, but what if he couldn't? yea true why could he just kill Shisui as you said. When Itachi left the Village he was crying (one of Sasuke flash backs. it is one one of the Naruto shippuden books) and seemed like he didn't want to kill them. so if he didn't then why did he? Shisui could of been the mastmind behind the whole thing. Seens Itachi forg the note then why did he write it like he did. Or was all ready prewritten and made to see like it was forg?

He didn't want to kill them but he gave up on Uchiha changing their ways and decided to accept the mission. If Shisui was the mastermind then why is he dead? it makes no sense....

Vivi · 09-22-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 3littlepigs

He didn't want to kill them but he gave up on Uchiha changing their ways and decided to accept the mission. If Shisui was the mastermind then why is he dead? it makes no sense....

Shisui's Sharingan had a special technique which was this mind control.
I truly believe Shisui controls Danzo with his Sharingan.

In other words he is dead,but lives on inside Danzo.

3littlepigs · 09-22-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by V-Valentine

Shisui's Sharingan had a special technique which was this mind control.
I truly believe Shisui controls Danzo with his Sharingan.

In other words he is dead,but lives on inside Danzo.

Ok that's really farfetched

Sharingan is not like Oro's cells taking over Kabuto's body, I mean if the user's body "dies" the sharingan dies too unless someone else takes it and uses it. I know Shisui's abilities but what you guys are saying is that he's basically the main villain all of a sudden and had this plan bigger than Madara's but he decided to "fake" his death (which if he really didn't die there's no way Itachi's MS would've activated) and then he predicted Danzou taking his sharingan so now he controls him...

makes no sense.

zerosameri · 09-23-2009, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ShikamaruGenius

Itachi did Kill Shisui,If U read the part where Naruto and sasuke fight before he got to orochimaru.U can see sasuke asking if his brother kill shisui and he say yes in his word..It's also says that Shisui was the one who kept an eyes on itachi.maybe He was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.Discovering that Itachi and the elder ar ploting against the uchiua.Itachi killed him before he told the clan.
when the other uchiua are suspecting him u can clearly see that He have his new sharingan he also told his dad that his last mission was to reach the height!And He also use his new sharringan the first time on his own father.Sasuke saw that..
well,danzo was in this plan for sure.He took advantage of this taking shisui eye.It was way off better to tell everybody that it was a suicide note to dont make everybody suspecting him.And the "path" he was talking.U can see that it's actually itachi'S way of thinking..like he dont trust the uchiua anymore ect...
so i really think SHisui was just a tools in this story...The other Uchiua Knew it,it was not the type of guys who just kill hiself for this...And if someone doubt about what IM saying,just tell me if it was a suicide,how Itachi's got his mangekyo activate?

Itachi never said he killed Shisui to Sasuke

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Originally Posted by 3littlepigs

He didn't want to kill them but he gave up on Uchiha changing their ways and decided to accept the mission. If Shisui was the mastermind then why is he dead? it makes no sense....

Yes Itachi didn't want to kill them, and gave up on them. If he was the mastermind be hiind all of this then he could of planed to die. (though thats stupid) Shisui may all ready known what would happened if he was to die.

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Originally Posted by 3littlepigs

Ok that's really farfetched

Sharingan is not like Oro's cells taking over Kabuto's body, I mean if the user's body "dies" the sharingan dies too unless someone else takes it and uses it. I know Shisui's abilities but what you guys are saying is that he's basically the main villain all of a sudden and had this plan bigger than Madara's but he decided to "fake" his death (which if he really didn't die there's no way Itachi's MS would've activated) and then he predicted Danzou taking his sharingan so now he controls him...

makes no sense.

Itasho still would of gotten his MS by killing his clan

ShikamaruGenius · 09-23-2009, 09:28 AM

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seriously,go read chapter 225 one more time..If u think he didnt then ur really blind.

Sasuke:did u kill shisui-san
itachi:tanx to him I was able to obtain this eyes
(I dont know how he could have his eyes without killing him!And dont say something like shisui gave his eyes there's no way)

Spoiler:

HEEE NO!To have d MS u must kill ur closest friends.And None of the Uchiha clan was his closest friends..WHo was his closest friend?shisui

...He also had his MS before killing the clan...Well i dont why u guys are still arguing about that..

3littlepigs · 09-23-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by zerosameri

Itachi never said he killed Shisui to Sasuke

Yes Itachi didn't want to kill them, and gave up on them. If he was the mastermind be hiind all of this then he could of planed to die. (though thats stupid) Shisui may all ready known what would happened if he was to die.

Itasho still would of gotten his MS by killing his clan

Itachi didn't tell him but he confirmed it when Sasuke asked if I'm not mistaken...

I still don't understand if we're agreeing or not LOL

...I'm saying I don't think Shisui was 1) working with Madara, 2) that he wanted to fake his own death, or that 3) he somehow controls Danzou even though he's dead. In answering your first question I said I believe those weren't Shisui's words but that it was all Itachi saying how he felt about Uchiha, I know Itachi didn't want to kill his clan but he chose to do it. Shisui was not only like a brother to him but was also keeping an eye on Itachi if I'm not mistaken so I think that's a good enough reason to kill him and at the same time get MS. Yes, Itachi would've gotten his MS when he killed his clan BUT he needed it BEFORE killing them to have an advantage when fighting so many Uchihas, most of which had sharingan as well.

I don't know if you agree with me or not I'm confused by your reply....

zerosameri · 09-23-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ShikamaruGenius

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seriously,go read chapter 225 one more time..If u think he didnt then ur really blind.

Sasuke:did u kill shisui-san
itachi:tanx to him I was able to obtain this eyes
(I dont know how he could have his eyes without killing him!And dont say something like shisui gave his eyes there's no way)

Spoiler:

HEEE NO!To have d MS u must kill ur closest friends.And None of the Uchiha clan was his closest friends..WHo was his closest friend?shisui

...He also had his MS before killing the clan...Well i dont why u guys are still arguing about that..

i read it, i'm not blind, and your rude.

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Originally Posted by 3littlepigs

Itachi didn't tell him but he confirmed it when Sasuke asked if I'm not mistaken...

I still don't understand if we're agreeing or not LOL

...I'm saying I don't think Shisui was 1) working with Madara, 2) that he wanted to fake his own death, or that 3) he somehow controls Danzou even though he's dead. In answering your first question I said I believe those weren't Shisui's words but that it was all Itachi saying how he felt about Uchiha, I know Itachi didn't want to kill his clan but he chose to do it. Shisui was not only like a brother to him but was also keeping an eye on Itachi if I'm not mistaken so I think that's a good enough reason to kill him and at the same time get MS. Yes, Itachi would've gotten his MS when he killed his clan BUT he needed it BEFORE killing them to have an advantage when fighting so many Uchihas, most of which had sharingan as well.

I don't know if you agree with me or not I'm confused by your reply....

(poor Sasuke)
this thread is all about Itachi and Shisui now.

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i do think he faked his own death, but it has been confrned that he is dead.

If though words was how Itachi felt, then why did he have so much faith in the Uchihas?

Shisui was teconaly spying on Itachi at the time. So Itachi must of been aware of that and kill Shisui.

Ah yea Itachi would need his Sharingan to kill so many Uchihas. and i'm Sure most of them had the Sharingan. Pluse they have many differnt types of Sharingan so i get what your saying with the MS thing

3littlepigs · 09-23-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by zerosameri

i read it, i'm not blind, and your rude.

(poor Sasuke)
this thread is all about Itachi and Shisui now.

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i do think he faked his own death, but it has been confrned that he is dead.

If though words was how Itachi felt, then why did he have so much faith in the Uchihas?

Shisui was teconaly spying on Itachi at the time. So Itachi must of been aware of that and kill Shisui.

Ah yea Itachi would need his Sharingan to kill so many Uchihas. and i'm Sure most of them had the Sharingan. Pluse they have many differnt types of Sharingan so i get what your saying with the MS thing

LOL true, but Sasuke's getting LOTS of attention in the manga so I'm sure he's fine!

I don't think he had that much faith in his clan but was trying to really hard....I think he had enough the moment those Uchihas went and basically acused him of having killed Shisui etc...remember how he started saying there was no hope for their clan and that they couldn't move forward etc...? yeah that was it I think, the moment he lost faith and decided to just do it and get it over with

ShikamaruGenius · 09-23-2009, 08:30 PM

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Sorry to Being rude and if I offence U.but the fact don't change...If What u said was written or more proven in the manga..then I will believe u..but there is to much theory of nowhere...I mean..The manga isn't so hard to understand!I don't think Kishi put some secret like this...If one day we see in a chapter what u said.then I will believe in what u said.

zerosameri · 09-23-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 3littlepigs

LOL true, but Sasuke's getting LOTS of attention in the manga so I'm sure he's fine!

I don't think he had that much faith in his clan but was trying to really hard....I think he had enough the moment those Uchihas went and basically acused him of having killed Shisui etc...remember how he started saying there was no hope for their clan and that they couldn't move forward etc...? yeah that was it I think, the moment he lost faith and decided to just do it and get it over with

yea true he has lots of attention now

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Originally Posted by ShikamaruGenius

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Sorry to Being rude and if I offence U.but the fact don't change...If What u said was written or more proven in the manga..then I will believe u..but there is to much theory of nowhere...I mean..The manga isn't so hard to understand!I don't think Kishi put some secret like this...If one day we see in a chapter what u said.then I will believe in what u said.

frist of all, i just asked what he ment by that. Yes i know that the mang is not hard to understand! and yes all of this theory did come out of no were.

UchihaLeon · 09-30-2009, 11:12 PM

No no no, you're all comfusing your selves. You see, Itachi HAD to kill his best friend at his own interest. You would actually get the Mangekyou Sharingan from killing your emotions. So Shisui never planned on suicide, Itachi forged the note possibly, referring to himself and the role he was playing. He was 13, ANBU squad captain. By the time he was 18 he was already in Akatsuki.

Also, Danzo doesn't have Shisui's Sharingan, it was one of the bodyguards from another village.

^/_\^ Whew.

UchihaLeon · 09-30-2009, 11:13 PM

Oh yeah, why are we putting spoiler guards if the forum, Town Bookstore already has warnings? XD

zerosameri · 11-08-2009, 08:22 PM

Live my thread!

Yori · 11-08-2009, 08:37 PM

Hm Idk but I have this feeling that Shisui will play some kind of part. And I think he is somehow living on

zerosameri · 11-19-2009, 07:20 AM

Bump.

valtreck · 11-19-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by zerosameri

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r u sure shisui wrote it?

zerosameri · 11-19-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by valtreck

r u sure shisui wrote it?

Itachi forged the note, to make it seem the Shishui wrote it

09-22-2009, 08:48 AM	#23
ShikamaruGenius Veteran Chunin Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Montreal,Quebec Posts: 1,219 Rep Power: 0	Re: What do you think Shisui meant by "path" Itachi did Kill Shisui,If U read the part where Naruto and sasuke fight before he got to orochimaru.U can see sasuke asking if his brother kill shisui and he say yes in his word..It's also says that Shisui was the one who kept an eyes on itachi.maybe He was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.Discovering that Itachi and the elder ar ploting against the uchiua.Itachi killed him before he told the clan. when the other uchiua are suspecting him u can clearly see that He have his new sharingan he also told his dad that his last mission was to reach the height!And He also use his new sharringan the first time on his own father.Sasuke saw that.. well,danzo was in this plan for sure.He took advantage of this taking shisui eye.It was way off better to tell everybody that it was a suicide note to dont make everybody suspecting him.And the "path" he was talking.U can see that it's actually itachi'S way of thinking..like he dont trust the uchiua anymore ect... so i really think SHisui was just a tools in this story...The other Uchiua Knew it,it was not the type of guys who just kill hiself for this...And if someone doubt about what IM saying,just tell me if it was a suicide,how Itachi's got his mangekyo activate? __________________ Even death is not to be feared by one who has lived wisely YouTube:

09-23-2009, 09:28 AM	#28
ShikamaruGenius Veteran Chunin Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Montreal,Quebec Posts: 1,219 Rep Power: 0	Re: What do you think Shisui meant by "path" Spoiler: Itachi never said he killed Shisui to Sasuke seriously,go read chapter 225 one more time..If u think he didnt then ur really blind. Sasuke:did u kill shisui-san itachi:tanx to him I was able to obtain this eyes (I dont know how he could have his eyes without killing him!And dont say something like shisui gave his eyes there's no way) Spoiler: Itasho still would of gotten his MS by killing his clan HEEE NO!To have d MS u must kill ur closest friends.And None of the Uchiha clan was his closest friends..WHo was his closest friend?shisui...He also had his MS before killing the clan...Well i dont why u guys are still arguing about that.. __________________ Even death is not to be feared by one who has lived wisely YouTube:

09-23-2009, 08:30 PM	#32
ShikamaruGenius Veteran Chunin Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Montreal,Quebec Posts: 1,219 Rep Power: 0	Re: What do you think Shisui meant by "path" Spoiler: i read it, i'm not blind, and your rude. Sorry to Being rude and if I offence U.but the fact don't change...If What u said was written or more proven in the manga..then I will believe u..but there is to much theory of nowhere...I mean..The manga isn't so hard to understand!I don't think Kishi put some secret like this...If one day we see in a chapter what u said.then I will believe in what u said. __________________ Even death is not to be feared by one who has lived wisely YouTube:

09-30-2009, 11:12 PM	#34
UchihaLeon Ninja Academy Student Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Rogue Ninja, I travel alot. Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	Re: What do you think Shisui meant by "path" No no no, you're all comfusing your selves. You see, Itachi HAD to kill his best friend at his own interest. You would actually get the Mangekyou Sharingan from killing your emotions. So Shisui never planned on suicide, Itachi forged the note possibly, referring to himself and the role he was playing. He was 13, ANBU squad captain. By the time he was 18 he was already in Akatsuki. Also, Danzo doesn't have Shisui's Sharingan, it was one of the bodyguards from another village. ^/_\^ Whew.

09-30-2009, 11:13 PM	#35
UchihaLeon Ninja Academy Student Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Rogue Ninja, I travel alot. Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	Re: What do you think Shisui meant by "path" Oh yeah, why are we putting spoiler guards if the forum, Town Bookstore already has warnings? XD

11-08-2009, 08:22 PM	#36
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11-19-2009, 07:20 AM	#38
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