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Old 09-18-2009, 11:13 PM   #61
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Is Sasuke Susanoo gonna be different from Itachi's? From the manga, sasuke susanoo looks like it has not fully transformed yet sice it only shows the skeleton.

Guess since sasuke mentions susanoo can only be activated with double MS, kakashi might never be able to get it (Sad Fellow). Anyway, cool chapter. The Raikage was sure confident in Shi healing abilities to be able to cut off his own arm...Ouch!
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I officially love Gaara right now! (I mean I always liked him but now i really think he's awesome)
I'm thinkin' Sasuke's evil.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:49 AM   #63
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Honestly I'm beginning to believe that Naruto turn Sasuke NOT by defeating him, but defending him against all others at the cost of his reputation.

For the upcoming chapters I think we will see more Sasuke overpowering every other people.
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:03 AM   #64
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Sasuke's Susano'o looks a little bit different and bigger.It makes me think that Gaar,Temari,Raikage,and the others will get beat.
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Oh really! It is only said that Naruto had a hard time while the fact is he always had a mentor who believed in him and honestly I don't see why his life was hard.

Itachi did NOT gave the power easily, yes he was dying but he still fought with sasuke to see if Sasuke has developed enough, deserved the gifts.

Naruto has the beast in him and he is helped by those damn frogs so don't get me started by working etc.

BTW I did not say Sasuke defeated Itachi, I said he fought with Itachi and proved that he was worthy of the gifts. He fought with Orichimaru, orichimaru actually tried to kill Sasuke.

yeah well orichimaru was in a weaken state already and even sasuke said that..
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i have a hard time believing that naruto will have an easy time dealing with sasuke as he is right now.. naruto has some awesome powers and he is getting a little smarter but he still is behind on the basics of countering genjutsu unless there are still things we dont know about the sage mode...
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Old 09-19-2009, 03:02 PM   #67
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i have a hard time believing that naruto will have an easy time dealing with sasuke as he is right now.. naruto has some awesome powers and he is getting a little smarter but he still is behind on the basics of countering genjutsu unless there are still things we dont know about the sage mode...
He really doesn't need to know how to counter genjutsu to be able to beat Sasuke, at least based on what we know about Sasuke. Sasuke has only done genjutsu that is done by using the Sharingan, we have never seen him do normal genjutsu so we can assume he can't do it. This means all Naruto has to do is one thing and that is not look into Sasuke's eyes.

Of course, if Sasuke can do genjutsu without using the Sharingan, then Naruto is screwed.
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Old 09-19-2009, 04:20 PM   #68
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He really doesn't need to know how to counter genjutsu to be able to beat Sasuke, at least based on what we know about Sasuke. Sasuke has only done genjutsu that is done by using the Sharingan, we have never seen him do normal genjutsu so we can assume he can't do it. This means all Naruto has to do is one thing and that is not look into Sasuke's eyes.

Of course, if Sasuke can do genjutsu without using the Sharingan, then Naruto is screwed.
The problem of what you said, is if Sasuke, can start using Genjutsu with another parts of his body like Itachi could do...

Also I believe that Naruto will not be able never to dispell genjutsu in the regular way, also there must be a reason for even Kurenai respect the Sharingan, probably some of its illusions cannot be dispelled in the normal way...I believe that Naruto will be able to dispelled Genjutsu in the same way Killer Bee dispelled it...by fusing the eight tails chakra in his own....
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The problem of what you said, is if Sasuke, can start using Genjutsu with another parts of his body like Itachi could do...

Also I believe that Naruto will not be able never to dispell genjutsu in the regular way, also there must be a reason for even Kurenai respect the Sharingan, probably some of its illusions cannot be dispelled in the normal way...I believe that Naruto will be able to dispelled Genjutsu in the same way Killer Bee dispelled it...by fusing the eight tails chakra in his own....

Last time Naruto and Sasuke met, sasuke suppressed Kyuubi with his sharingon. So in a fight the fox isn't a factor. Besides that Killer Bee had control over the 8-tails because he trained to. I understand that killer bee could help Naruto control his beast but at the same time Naruto is trying not rely on the fox at all.
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:53 PM   #70
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The problem of what you said, is if Sasuke, can start using Genjutsu with another parts of his body like Itachi could do...

Also I believe that Naruto will not be able never to dispell genjutsu in the regular way, also there must be a reason for even Kurenai respect the Sharingan, probably some of its illusions cannot be dispelled in the normal way...I believe that Naruto will be able to dispelled Genjutsu in the same way Killer Bee dispelled it...by fusing the eight tails chakra in his own....
hmm...i get a feeling that naruto might be able to stand up to sasuke's genjutsu using his sage mode.....
i thik the other reason to give naruto the sage mode might be to be able to put him on equall grounds with sasuke when they fight....the sage mode and the natural chakra might have something to do with dispeeling a genjjutsu
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:57 PM   #71
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I think its getting pathetic. Kishi, quit overpowering your damn characters. I mean it was bad enough that you didn't show us how Naruto got so ridiculously strong with Sage mode and beated all 6 bodies of Pein, something that Jiraiya couldn't do when he was in Sage mode when he obviously has more battle and sage mode experience than Naruto. But making a lame excuse that Sasuke has the MS evolved form is the reason why he's so strong is just sad. I mean from the past he has not done anything that he can prove to take on the Kage's, and now the Kage's along with their subordinates are having a rough time against him just makes me mad. If Kishi keeps doing this, I might drop the Naruto series, its just getting bad.

To me, it looks like Kishi only likes to please his fans rather than actually trying to make a good story. Something manga authors should not do.
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freakin SASUKE!!! DIE A THOUSAND DEATHS FOR MAKING GAARA SHED A TEAR FOR YOU!!!! it was a really good chapter didn't expect Gaara to try and save Sasuke, and then actually cry for him! stupid Sasuke!!!! DIE DIE DIE DIE!!! the Raikage really is something though, chopping off his own freakin arm! just wow man! and I new that dark chakra was itachi's, he gave sasuke his powers before he died so that wasn't really new but the whole Gaara thing just damn! stupid Sasuke, can't wait to see you die!
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Old 09-20-2009, 04:42 AM   #73
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i think it's been a better chapter than the past couple of chapters
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