Aged religion... as good as fine wine?

[CrimsonCatClan]

Why, according to most modern religious fixtures, are the current religions right and the older religions (ie. older than 2500 years) wrong? I am genuinely curious!

[TheBlackChidori]

I suppose its the same reason why the Corvette goes faster then the Flinstone's car.

[Sabra Kusabana]

I told myself I wouldn't touch this, Crim... I really did, but: *Takes a deep breath.*

First it has to do with polytheism versus monotheism. For many people it is far easier to at least conceptually satisfy one god over many. Several of the older faiths had many gods, where as now they tend to have a singlar being or a very small gathering of gods.

No one can ever say difinitively that one faith is ever greater then another in a complete sense, only that they believe in their own being better for X reason. In some ways faith is completely based on social setting, right now we're in a setting that favors these newer veiws. Why is a whole mass of reasons that I'm not going to even start on, but mainly people want things easier to understand and live with.

The older faiths have nothing wrong with them, but one of the things that banished them from modern view is science. Yes, science as much as I adore it, it has destroyed many things in history, sometimes having left religions broken in it's wake. Things that are simple now, explained away by science and logic, were once mystical and inspired deep beliefs and religions in our history. Even just how a thunderstorm forms was once the realm of gods, not something they dared understand.

We have lost our wonder of some many things, as a whole humans have lost faith, or at least the manner of faith that made the older religions what they were to their followers. We as a species seek to understand, to place a reason behind everything we experience and do. This created early on tales of gods, be them in the shape of elementals, men, or something else entirely. Yet, when these old tales were disproved it shook the fountain of any belief based on them, which brought some faiths to their knees. A faith without followers is not a faith, it's a story.

Losing the ground they were built on to discovery, enlightenment, inspiration, or whatever you want to call it, ment that the religion using what had been mystical before as base for something would slowly fall apart as more and more of it became questioned and disproved.

The very foundation of a God is that they are a being who's power cannot be touched, reproduced, or explained away. Doing so destroys them as Gods. The current top faiths in the world are ones that have survived this happening for one reason or another, those that have retained that untouchable awe and mystery.

The other thing that old faiths have been lost to is war and conquest. Fastest way to subjugate a people without killing them all or significant expenses, change how they think. Fastest way to change how a populas thinks, change the beliefs that are based down. Force new thoughts on their decendants and them by changing their belief system, changing their religion for them. Not all of them will believe you of course, but if it's a choice between their gods and death many will reject their old ways for survival, resulting in the intended change of order/faith.

I personally favor and follow one of these now dead religions because I personally feel called to it. I believe in it, it's weird to say this, but I never felt right among people of the faith I grew up in. There was so much corruption and hypocracy in them, and the faith itself confused me in many ways that I cannot begin to detail. Yet, the one I am now, that long ago slipped into the pages of history, has brought me much comfort and a sense of being like I cannot possibly describe in words.

There is nothing wrong or right in any religion current or otherwise, there is only the feeling of belonging that one can bring to a person. A feeling of being at peace, and like you have meaning. That's what faith is about. It is a pity that so many have slipped away, gone into a kind of death like so many things of the past, but it is the way of social evolution to discard the old and take up the new when something has been disproven or otherwise made obsolete.

So to reference the title of this. Religion is like a very fine wine, to be savored, felt, tasted, experienced on another level beyond the norm. It is something you should truely enjoy and hold on your palete to be sure it is the one you want. One should never settle for just what tastes okay, it should be the one that taste right for you, for your life your mind your very soul. It might take going thru multiple casks to find, but so very worth the trouble.

[itachiuchiha85]

Originally Posted by Sabra Kusabana

I told myself I wouldn't touch this, Crim... I really did, but: *Takes a deep breath.*

First it has to do with polytheism versus monotheism. For many people it is far easier to at least conceptually satisfy one god over many. Several of the older faiths had many gods, where as now they tend to have a singlar being or a very small gathering of gods.

No one can ever say difinitively that one faith is ever greater then another in a complete sense, only that they believe in their own being better for X reason. In some ways faith is completely based on social setting, right now we're in a setting that favors these newer veiws. Why is a whole mass of reasons that I'm not going to even start on, but mainly people want things easier to understand and live with.

The older faiths have nothing wrong with them, but one of the things that banished them from modern view is science. Yes, science as much as I adore it, it has destroyed many things in history, sometimes having left religions broken in it's wake. Things that are simple now, explained away by science and logic, were once mystical and inspired deep beliefs and religions in our history. Even just how a thunderstorm forms was once the realm of gods, not something they dared understand.

We have lost our wonder of some many things, as a whole humans have lost faith, or at least the manner of faith that made the older religions what they were to their followers. We as a species seek to understand, to place a reason behind everything we experience and do. This created early on tales of gods, be them in the shape of elementals, men, or something else entirely. Yet, when these old tales were disproved it shook the fountain of any belief based on them, which brought some faiths to their knees. A faith without followers is not a faith, it's a story.

Losing the ground they were built on to discovery, enlightenment, inspiration, or whatever you want to call it, ment that the religion using what had been mystical before as base for something would slowly fall apart as more and more of it became questioned and disproved.

The very foundation of a God is that they are a being who's power cannot be touched, reproduced, or explained away. Doing so destroys them as Gods. The current top faiths in the world are ones that have survived this happening for one reason or another, those that have retained that untouchable awe and mystery.

The other thing that old faiths have been lost to is war and conquest. Fastest way to subjugate a people without killing them all or significant expenses, change how they think. Fastest way to change how a populas thinks, change the beliefs that are based down. Force new thoughts on their decendants and them by changing their belief system, changing their religion for them. Not all of them will believe you of course, but if it's a choice between their gods and death many will reject their old ways for survival, resulting in the intended change of order/faith.

I personally favor and follow one of these now dead religions because I personally feel called to it. I believe in it, it's weird to say this, but I never felt right among people of the faith I grew up in. There was so much corruption and hypocracy in them, and the faith itself confused me in many ways that I cannot begin to detail. Yet, the one I am now, that long ago slipped into the pages of history, has brought me much comfort and a sense of being like I cannot possibly describe in words.

There is nothing wrong or right in any religion current or otherwise, there is only the feeling of belonging that one can bring to a person. A feeling of being at peace, and like you have meaning. That's what faith is about. It is a pity that so many have slipped away, gone into a kind of death like so many things of the past, but it is the way of social evolution to discard the old and take up the new when something has been disproven or otherwise made obsolete.

So to reference the title of this. Religion is like a very fine wine, to be savored, felt, tasted, experienced on another level beyond the norm. It is something you should truely enjoy and hold on your palete to be sure it is the one you want. One should never settle for just what tastes okay, it should be the one that taste right for you, for your life your mind your very soul. It might take going thru multiple casks to find, but so very worth the trouble.

you write too much (not a bad thing).


back to your point, science has not destroyed but enlighten the minds of a lot of people over the centuries. The day that science explains when we were made and how (one hundred percent truth and correct) will be the end of all religions as they stand.

Religions are suppose to make you feel good inside, peaceful and happy to be alive. A religion and faith are two different things in my eyes. A religion is something people force you to believe in since a kid. Faith is something you find as you grow older and go through pains.

I have my own religion and my own faith and it doesnt collide with others' faith or religion, it just not their religion.

Many people believe different things. I believe my own things. The religions of the past thought the religions of today. And the best thing that they thought them was to have a single god, a mighty omnipotent being that is so mystical and mythical that not even science could explain it. Why? So they can survive the ages of time. And that is why now we think the "newer" religions are the right ones.

Take my advice, make your own religion, make your own beliefs, make your own faith. Do not walk on a road that has been walked on many a time. Pave your own road, live your own life.

[ItachiAnbu]

Originally Posted by CrimsonCatClan

Why, according to most modern religious fixtures, are the current religions right and the older religions (ie. older than 2500 years) wrong? I am genuinely curious!

I don't think that any one religeon is better than any other, but I personally don't like a religeon that openly requires bloodshed.

In my opinion, all wine is better than all religeon.

[CrimsonCatClan]

LOL I like wine.