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I don't remember where but I saw that they had Kekke Genkai...the hability of the first to control wood type was one of them...its normal that in a big clan there is people without it, and that could appear more than one kekke genkai....
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well i dont think that all senju's could control the tailed beast...maby it was only hashirama.....and besides the only reason naruto and can control his beast is because of the necklace....and with that broke.(and minato's spitrit gone).. the next time naruto goes above 4 tails...there's nothing stopping him
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yes...i seem to have made a little mistake in geting the facts right.....apparently Haku's kekkai genkai was the ability to combine the 2 chakras: water an wind... creating ice realease......but as true as that may be...that was not the case with the senju clan....Hashirama's was not a kekkai genkai....he was the only one in his clan capable of useing the techinique.(not every1 in the senju clan was able to use it)..so he must have devoloped the ability to combine the 2 chakra's himself........propably though hard training or sumthing...
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we kno the similarities between hashirama and n naruto.......but the main differences are what i think would make a difference.........madara and hashirama both looked up to each other......but both of them hated each other....but thats not the case with naruto and sasuke...... also i dont think sasuke actually hates naruto.....its not sasuke's goal to kill naruto(unlike madara).........and in the end sumhow i dont think sasuke will kill naruto.........and naruto obviously dsnt hate sasuke.........naruto was the 'child of the prophecy" he was born with the same 'fate' and 'will' as hashirama.....he was chosen as the one who would make a change in the ninja world....naruto and hashirama shared the same fate and destiny.....he is tied by "fate" to the senju clan....and more spcifically hashirama.....they dont have to be of the same fa ily to share the same ideals and want the same thing.... Last edited by Nine-TailedSage_Naruto; 09-05-2009 at 03:38 PM. |
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Hashirama and Tobirama had a lot of strenght, the same happens with Tsunade, and in some extent with Naruto althought not in the same level, the Senju have a lot of chakra, the same happens to naruto....booth Hashirama and Tobirama have a lot of stamina, the same with Naruto...Hashirama could control the Kyuubi, we don't how he could do it, but there is no way to tell if Tobirama and Tsunade don't have at least the same capacity (not explored at the same extent than in Hashirama, making a comparison, it could be some kind of "EMS" from the Uchiha, Hashirama was the first one to unlock this capability and was the only one to have it)...the way they speak about the Senju in a general way fits with the way that Naruto takes his life, missions, battles and relationships...also Senju was a big clan...its normal that there could be Senju related families, that are Senju, without beeing named Senju, and various diferent types or forms of the Kekke Genkai... Also I see a kind of a pattern in every senju that we know...at least Hashirama and Tobirama could control water...also we only know that Minato had lightning chakra, but I doubt that he only had one type of chakra, and also Naruto already said after controlling wind that he only needed know to master the water chakra, so this could be a hit? also like I said Tsunade was left in coma for a reason, it would be easier to Kishimoto to just kill her...she will have a role...this role could be confirming or dening that Naruto is Senju related (like I said before, if Naruto is related to Senju he is NOT Tsunade's grandson)
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This takes us to the child of the prophecy...what is the child of the prophecy?in the end, is a child that is destined to break the chains of hatred...and one of this chains of hatred was started by the children of the sage of the six paths...the founders of booth clans...Senju and Uchiha...so or Naruto is a new sage of the six paths (that I don't thing he is)...or he must be a Senju, that will break the chain of hatred born from the decision that Sage of the six paths made...why would Naruto an outsider, be destined to settle a score that its not a problem from is family? also the Uchiha have a "warrior", Sasuke, the avenger, like Madara call him...so it cames to Naruto to step up....
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Also the Kyuubi living inside Naruto, affected the personality, and his skills, so he probably can't do genjutsu (it doesn't mean that in future he doesn't master some sort of genjutsu techniques) because of having the Kyuubi inside him....also Naruto shows a lack of concentration and focus...regularly this is the most evident proof that there is lack of some sort of intelligence (there is a lot of types of intelligence....like mechanical, language, creative, etc)...if he lacks in inteliigence, genjutsu would be hard for him to control...
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its nt that naruto cant learn genjutsu....but ,like u said, naruto dsnt have the concentration for it...but i dont think its because oif the kyubii....i mean very few people are masters of genjutsu....and other then the uchiha kurenai is the only one who ,purely with talent, managed to master it... |
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that is a very good argument......and (i will have to think really hard to counter that the senju and the uchiha were destined to fight each other........and it was a curse that started with the two sons of the sage....maby that one child...the child of the prophecy...was born to break that chain of hatred and war between the uchiha and the senju....and to be able to do that ....maby he was not included in the fate of the two clans....in the past it was hashirama who 'stepped up" to stop the fighting between the various clans and brougth them under one single command ..and formed the one clan per village...at that time hashirama was the 'child of the prophecy".....he stopped the fights of varuious other clan even though he was not related to them....he was the one person who brought the world of hatred to an end....(at least tempararily)...he changed the destines of many a clans and families..(but couldnt overcome his own)....so why cant naruto do the same.......he might b the person to save these two clans from their fate....naruto never beleived in fate and destiny.....and thats what makes him the perfect candidate to break this chain of hatred among the two clans and change their 'destinies'.....and i think now that madara told him that it was the uchiha''s "fate" i think naruto gonna try and show sasuke that u can decide your own destiny.....just like he did to neji... Last edited by Nine-TailedSage_Naruto; 09-05-2009 at 04:37 PM. |
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Imagine this the sage of six paths, realizing his mistake he created the myth that one day, there would be one, that will trully endure and fullfill his whises...of peace...and the first step to it, will be of course, stop the war between the Senju and Uchiha...the two "brothers"....and I believe that the Sage wouldn't let this task for a random person...but to one of his descendets....from either sides...in fact if Naruto is a Senju descendet, he will be the only one that can put an end to the hostillities because of his bond with Sasuke, like if the two brothers (the Senju and the Uchiha) had fight enough, and realized that they were "brothers", in the end they have a same ancestor and that they have to stop the fight...also the fact that Naruto considers Sasuke a brother, cames to support what I said....
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But like I said, I believe that Tsunade will be a key factor in finding if Naruto is or isn't related with Senju....
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Yes Sasuke said during the begging of the series, I don't know were but it was during the Sharingan appearence in some of the first times it was used,, that even inside the clan there were Uchiha that didn't had (he said didn't awaken) the Sharingan...I think it was related by the fact that Kakashi had one and even inside the clan there was Uchiha that hadn't....
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