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Old 09-04-2009, 04:00 AM   #21
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ooo, ok thanks Nick
sounds like you pissed off a mad Reilly.
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sounds like you pissed off a mad Reilly.
lmao a New Superstition
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:01 AM   #23
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sounds like you pissed off a mad Reilly.
Huh? My name's Nick, I just thought maybe he'd like to know he was spelling it incorrectly. Wouldn't you wanna know if you were spelling something incorrectly?
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:04 AM   #24
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Huh? My name's Nick, I just thought maybe he'd like to know he was spelling it incorrectly. Wouldn't you wanna know if you were spelling something incorrectly?
No I know your name, I was talking about the person who down repped him for the misspelled word.

Maybe it was a pissed off Reilly, who really wasn't in the mood.
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No I know your name, I was talking about the person who down repped him for the misspelled word.

Maybe it was a pissed off Reilly, who really wasn't in the mood.
Oooooooh xD
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There have been terrible stories of children held captive because there were believed to be possessed of evil spirits, and older women and younger children were, historically, often identified as witches or wizards and often blamed for misfortune, illness, infertility and natural catastrophes and brutally murdered. In Tanzania alone, at least 45 albinos have been murdered since 2007 because popular superstition holds that they are witches.

As I pull together some thoughts on this theme, I am wondering if there is an easy definition for the difference between religion and superstition? One that comes to mind in the African context is that beliefs that injure others are superstitions. (That would go for Christian beliefs, like those that would lead to witch hunts and the like in times past.)

What passes as superstition of course depends on where one falls on the spectrum of belief. The pope would view certain African traditions as superstitions, some Protestants view certain Catholic practices as superstitions, and non-believers will view any belief in things not seen as superstitions–even as they meditate on their daily horoscope.

Superstitions might also be, it seems to me, demonstrably wrong, whereas “true religion” cannot be disproved, because it makes (in its best manifestations) other, deeper claims to meaning rather than temporary consequence. Which reminds me, where did I put that darn rabbit’s foot keychain?
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see this is not very nice, now I'm not saying you have done this, but people who don't believe in religion always try to rub it in someone who does believe in it's face, it's Reilly not fair at all, I mean I see more people trying to Tell me God is not real and Jesus was not the son of god, and Reilly I'm sick of people trying to change my beliefs
I am not trying to change your beliefs, I am merely challengeing you to think. I believe in a faith that could be put under the same microscope of thought as any other, and I respect that others have different veiws. I just want to make people actively question what they believe instead of being good little sheep who swollow everything placed before them.

You can have your god or gods in whatever shape you want them to be, I just think that not enough people question what they're told. To take everything someone tells you as truth just because it's about religion would be stupid. Religion should be something that calls to your soul, your very being, and something you can have complete faith in. The fact you reacted so harshly shows your faith is not as strong as you wish it to be.

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*Snatches black cat out of the way and glares at TBC.* Do me the favor of giving a real answer, please. And could people stop limiting their concepts of superstition to what we have in American culture, you know there's thousands of tales out there that qualify.

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There have been terrible stories of children held captive because there were believed to be possessed of evil spirits, and older women and younger children were, historically, often identified as witches or wizards and often blamed for misfortune, illness, infertility and natural catastrophes and brutally murdered. In Tanzania alone, at least 45 albinos have been murdered since 2007 because popular superstition holds that they are witches.

As I pull together some thoughts on this theme, I am wondering if there is an easy definition for the difference between religion and superstition? One that comes to mind in the African context is that beliefs that injure others are superstitions. (That would go for Christian beliefs, like those that would lead to witch hunts and the like in times past.)

What passes as superstition of course depends on where one falls on the spectrum of belief. The pope would view certain African traditions as superstitions, some Protestants view certain Catholic practices as superstitions, and non-believers will view any belief in things not seen as superstitions–even as they meditate on their daily horoscope.

Superstitions might also be, it seems to me, demonstrably wrong, whereas “true religion” cannot be disproved, because it makes (in its best manifestations) other, deeper claims to meaning rather than temporary consequence. Which reminds me, where did I put that darn rabbit’s foot keychain?
My dear sweet Crim, you never fail me. Can anyone here really challenge that one religion can look at another and call it anything other then a collection of superstitions? I don't deny that my own beliefs could be veiwed as such, or even as results of coencidence, thus I can find respect for other faiths.

There is no proof for the vast majority of things that most people just take as truth when it comes to either superstition or faith. There's tales from all over the world of things happening because someone did X and Y resulted, so therefore X must aways turn into Y instead of say Z. If I lost someone there, it's okay, I'm sure if I put that into a mathmatic or scientific form that Crim would run away screaming.

The point is that many religions can be called superstitions, and that is partly because they both run on the same principles. They are based on cause and effect senerios found within their context. If you do this thing then it will cause this reaction. That's what both say, and somethings their right, sometimes they're wrong. Still both are believed and acted upon by those that believe them as truth, in this they are the same thing.

The only true difference is that superstitions are often taken as singular and self-contained, while religions believe in multple things that lead to a grander result. It is not wrong or right to believe in either or both, or even to scrap the idea completely and not believe anything. I just want people who choose to believe to think about what they are doing when they make the choice, because if they don't think about it then they are just being puppets to what people have told them.

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