You asked for it man.
An avid feat, eh? If you wanna put it like that but it wasn't all that impressive, I guess you could call it "Common sense."
It wasn't the feat itself, it was the way that he was able to perfectly execute the trap and was able to capture Hidan with just his intelligence. This is not based on debates, because bloodlusted he wouldn't be thinking, but in regular terms he's using his intelligence to win a fight, not his muscles or whatever like Jiraiya. Yea. I went there.
All his life, he's trained and learned about his Cliche Shadow Techniques, I mean doesn't it seem obvious that he'd know what to do with it and how to use it? He trained all his life and learned JUST. THAT.
No. Because Chouji has no other Jutsu than his Expansion no Jutsu, and Shikamaru >>> Chouji. Chouji charges Shikamaru, Shikamaru catches him, kills him, GG.
Chouji sucks. One of the weakest characters, and he's trained his entire life doing the same Jutsu, and he was pwned by Dosu who just had to touch him and turn an amplifyer or whatever on and he was done.
Unless you want to claim that Chouji >>> Shikamaru too. Then I'm up for debate.
JUST his Shadow Tech, nothing else. Now even then, his strategies are horrible. It's obvious how to figure this crap out, "Hidan's immortal, bury him alive" Wow genius, figure that out all by yourself?
Let's be honest. Naruto has three moves. Three real moves.
Kuchiyose no Jutsu
Kage Bushin no Jutsu
So now according to your logic, Naruto is weak because he has a small amount of Jutsu.
No, he has varients of his jutsu, and it's better to have a great mastery over few jutsu and have varients and a variety of range choices limited to a few different moves than to have a billion different attacks that are horribly executed. Prove me wrong. Each Pain for example had their own attack. One different summon. Did you see how much trouble 6 jutsu caused? It decimated the entire Leaf Village.
Yeah, but would you have figured out how to do it? I think not. Naruto would've been like "Oh crap he's coming SHADOW CLONES PL0X" until PnJ saved him. So stop preaching about how stupid he is.
Me, thinking about his Shadow Techniques for five minutes and there's a strategy fifty times better than Suckamaru had his entire life to come up with, I mean seriously. He trained his LIFE for these one techniques and his strategies are just average joe intelligence that anyone could come up with, like me, contemplating it for like two minutes and not even knowing anything about the technique or HOW you should even form your strategies.
How else would you have gone about getting rid of Hidan? Give me a reason that is legit please, though.
smart that Suckamaru who's spent his entire life on just that jutsu techniques can't come up with a strategy throughout entire length of a fight that's HALF as good as what I can come up with in just a few seconds.
Really? Because I haven't seen any explanations of what you would've done.
He's such an idiot, and when compared to geniuses like Jiraiya, Kakuzu, it makes him seem like a COMPLETE IDIOT intelligence wise. Throughout the entire fight Kakuzu knew what he was gonna do, and that "avid feat" he pulled off, like I said he trained his ENTIRE LIFE and actually knows how his jutsu is performed, so of course it's obvious he knows how it works and what is GOING to work, yet my five second top of my head knowledge can come up with something ten times better than that and I have no idea how to use his jutsu and definitely didn't spend any time figuring out how.
He's such an idiot?
Why don't you take an IQ test and tell me if you score over 200. I'd like to see you score over 150.
Kakuzu with hundred years of experience is a complete genius and a wise man compared to him, it's just sad. And Jiraiya created a code off of the top of his head from the book he wrote, deduced who Pain was during their fight (with the help of Ma and Pa) and even successfully figured Madara was alive without even having anything to do with him, at all, ever. When even Minato had quite the trouble contemplating who exactly he was facing, I mean he fought him face to face. But Minato is still a genius compared to Suckamaru, he found out the mechanics and everything behind Chidori just by looking at it, a bunch more.
91 years. Shikamaru is 16. Really? You're going to compare a sixteen year old boy to somebody who has lived with five hearts, for 91 years? Ninety one years of experience deems higher intelligence, logically just because of life experience. Did you ever think that maybe using your brain longer would gain you more general knowledge?
Let's look at this. Instead of getting beaten by Kin, he used his mind rather than his physical ability which is what most of the characters in Naruto do, including Jiraiya.
The smartest thing Jiraiya did was write that message on Fukasaku's back. He taught Naruto, and look at his intelligence.
What does that say to you?
Then there's even KAKASHI, who I don't even like very much. Recent chapters he actually showed his intelligence which is far greater(as usually, most ninjas are) intelligence than anything Suckamaru has ever shown, figuring out a plan to capture the Edo Tensei's with his teammates jutsu and knowing how Kage Jutsu works and Shintenshin and coming up with a plan on the spot in order to capture them, I mean he used Suckamaru's OWN JUTSU better than he could ever do, and he spent his whole life on it, and entire fight length with Hidan trying to figure out plans. I mean 200 steps ahead... LOL at that one.
Okay...read my Kakuzu wall.
Kakashi took advantage and used Shintenshin and Shadow Bind or whateverthehellitscalled to his advantage on the spot like I said, showing their intelligence.
Shintenshin is Ino's mind transfer. And I refuse to even counter this because you lack the intelligence on the moves, so the accuracy of your debate will be off.
And that's just proving Suckamaru being smart wrong because let's face it, he's retarded.
Jiraiya is retarded. 'Nuff said.
And Temari sucks for saving Suckamaru's life but again she's awesome because he was whining and helpless and she came and was all "Loser watch this /kills Tayuya"
Jiraiya sucks for training Naruto because Naruto hyperventilates about Sasuke daily because he's such a baby and he can't do crap about it and he's helpless against his ex and he came in and said "Here's a hax0rz Jutsu" and Naruto still managed to chop off his balls and hyperventilate yet again.
Then Asuma died, I mean I love Asuma but I was also happy because Suckamaru was whining.
Then Jiraiya died. I laughed when Naruto hyperventilated.
Okay enough with that and intelligence, I guess we can talk about other stuff.
Like the fact Tayuya broke out of his jutsu using her sheer force and managed to move, so it's safe to assume other people could too.
And he broke out of Genjutsu by inflicting pain upon himself. Problem?
So that's a feat showing how bad his jutsu sucks by itself but hey, it's mainly his intelligence that needs disproving.
/all for now