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BlackAngel 01-04-2011 12:19 AM

Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
Battle Conditions :

Location - The area where Kakashi is currently fighting them.
Weather - Fog
Time - Night

Who wins?

Nyruss 01-04-2011 12:51 AM

Re: Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
Assuming this is non-zombie Z&H. Haku got tagged by a weakened Sasuke who had just that instant unlocked Sharingan. I'm not seeing how he doesn't get lavablitzed by Mei.

Then again, I don't remember if the most recent chapters gave Haku any new speedfeats. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ms/43h7r5d.gif

Zabuza is nothing. He best jutsu (water dragon, non?) takes a really long ass time to use and he can't do anything to Mei with close range, she'll just puke lava in his face.

ko lee 01-04-2011 07:21 AM

Re: Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudemeister (Post 4577102)
Assuming this is non-zombie Z&H. Haku got tagged by a weakened Sasuke who had just that instant unlocked Sharingan. I'm not seeing how he doesn't get lavablitzed by Mei.

Then again, I don't remember if the most recent chapters gave Haku any new speedfeats. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ms/43h7r5d.gif

Zabuza is nothing. He best jutsu (water dragon, non?) takes a really long ass time to use and he can't do anything to Mei with close range, she'll just puke lava in his face.

I completely agree that Mei dominates this fight. But I thought she had boiling and Acid not lava style. Again I am not arguing that Mei wouldn't just stomp them with little effort I am just saying they would get Boiled or Acid blitz not lavablitzed.

gama-sennin 01-04-2011 07:40 AM

Re: Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudemeister (Post 4577102)
Assuming this is non-zombie Z&H.

:?:

Lady Tsunade 01-04-2011 08:55 AM

Re: Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
BL and 50 metres, neither Haku or Zabuza can escape acid mist. Even if Haku forms an ice mirror, it can be melted. Meis taking this one rather easily.

gama-sennin 01-04-2011 10:16 AM

Re: Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
@LT

Haku and Zabuza are ETZs.

Lady Tsunade 01-04-2011 10:22 AM

Re: Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gama-sennin (Post 4577437)
@LT

Haku and Zabuza are ETZs.

Doesn't say that in the OP. Where are you getting this from?

Unless Zabuza and Haku are able to go into their zombies forms by their own accord they would never be able to unless specified in the OP. Last time I checked they needed to be killed first, and then have Kabuto use prep to revive them.

Nyruss 01-04-2011 10:25 AM

Re: Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
All characters have their most recent displayed abilities unless otherwise specified. This includes zombie regen. I've explained why on numerous occasions and won't bother to do so again.

Lady Tsunade 01-04-2011 10:31 AM

Re: Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
Not convinced. Its like assuming Orochimaru is permanently in his Hydra Form, as thats his most recent ability. Still don't see people assuming he's always in that form. Also, unkillable zombies are retarded as they can pretty much kill anyone that isn't Hiruzen, Minato, Kabuto, Tobirama, Orochimaru or possibly Kushina.

Nyruss 01-04-2011 10:38 AM

Re: Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
I'll skip to the end.

I'm glad my cunning arguments have smited your feeble attempts to argue against the rules compliance of the zombies. In any event, I've already covered my own bases.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudemeister (Post 4577102)
Assuming this is non-zombie Z&H.

Brilliant, you say? I humbly accept your praise.

Shikamaru Nara 01-04-2011 01:53 PM

Re: Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudemeister (Post 4577102)
Assuming this is non-zombie Z&H. Haku got tagged by a weakened Sasuke who had just that instant unlocked Sharingan. I'm not seeing how he doesn't get lavablitzed by Mei.

Actually, he also managed to beat Sasuke's ass.

Then again, I don't remember if the most recent chapters gave Haku any new speedfeats. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ms/43h7r5d.gif

He wasn't right next to Zabuza when he defended him. He was able to comeplete a defensive move. Perfectly.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ms/43h7r5d.gif

Zabuza is nothing. He best jutsu (water dragon, non?) takes a really long ass time to use and he can't do anything to Mei with close range, she'll just puke lava in his face.

Non.

Hidden mist.

Nyruss 01-04-2011 01:55 PM

Re: Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
There's no doubt that Haku was stronger than the Sauce at that point, but the fact remains that he was still hit by the Sauce.

Acid Mist takes care of Hidden Mist. Zabuza can't tell which mist is his and which is hers. She's immune to her own jutsus, so she just amps up the acidity and concentrates it around herself. When Zabuza comes in to use Silent Killing whasname, he dissolves into goo.

gama-sennin 01-04-2011 06:51 PM

Re: Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Tsunade (Post 4577450)
Doesn't say that in the OP. Where are you getting this from?

Unless Zabuza and Haku are able to go into their zombies forms by their own accord they would never be able to unless specified in the OP. Last time I checked they needed to be killed first, and then have Kabuto use prep to revive them.

Its the "rules" LT....Cant do much against that..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudemeister (Post 4577486)
I'll skip to the end.

I'm glad my cunning arguments have smited your feeble attempts to argue against the rules compliance of the zombies. In any event, I've already covered my own bases.

With this one, if I am not mistaken =>

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudemeister
Assuming this is non-zombie Z&H.

Now, why would you decide to type/assume something like that..hmm..Is it because, if you dont make the "assumption", the fight/thread turns into a stomp?

Nyruss 01-04-2011 06:59 PM

Re: Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
As Zabuza and Haku are currently Edo Tensei Zombies, they are indestructible unless their soul is removed or they are otherwise incapacitated. Mei lacks either of these abilities.

Vivi 01-05-2011 10:32 AM

Re: Zabuza and Haku VS Mei Terumi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyruss (Post 4577102)
Then again, I don't remember if the most recent chapters gave Haku any new speedfeats. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ms/43h7r5d.gif

What about being able to block a Kick from Guy and Lee.

He was hit indeed but if you look at his arms he did manage to put up a block to dampen it.

Of course this is still debatable for few reasons.
Guy and Lee's whereabouts as well as the Distance of the 2 towards Haku.

There is also the fact that the left side are Edo Tensei's which Mei can do absolutely nothing against.

Quote:

Haku got tagged by a weakened Sasuke who had just that instant unlocked Sharingan. I'm not seeing how he doesn't get lavablitzed by Mei.
The same Haku who didn't go all out.

And I have yet to see any impressive Speed feats for her Lava Jutsu's as well as herself.

Lava Globs was dodged by a weakened Sasuke.
And all Melting apparition did was hit due to Sasuke not moving.

And Mei hasn't shown any Durability nor true Speed herself.

Of course naturally Zabuza and Haku are currently Edo Tensei's thus chances for Mei to win are slim to none.


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