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Yori 10-23-2010 07:58 AM

Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
No restrictions.

Who wins?

321zigzag3 10-23-2010 08:17 AM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
Grimmjow in base is powerful enough to take on Base Byakuya and Shikai Byakuya with ease in my opinion.

Also I think Ressureccion is too much for bankai byakuya unless the captain uses that final white wing glowing thing.

But what say you.

Bacon 10-23-2010 10:26 AM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
Byakuya wouldn't stand a chance unless he resorted to using Senkei,senbonzakura. Grim has shown speed comparable to Ichigo's vaizard state(ressurection form), meaning that Byuakuya can't rely on his gokei. This is especially true since Grimjow spams Gran rey cero causally.

This is a losing battle for Byuakuya since he nearly crushed himself under the constant spiritual pressure that he suffered in the prolonged use of the Senkai sword strike things.

321zigzag3 10-23-2010 10:28 AM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
I agree. Byakuya needs Bankai to try to go against Base Grimmjow at least thats what the manga shows.

I gave up trying to scale Bleach a while ago though.

Bacon 10-23-2010 10:30 AM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
The thing is, Byukuya would have to rely on intellect,his stores of Kido(bakudo and Hado), and his strongest bankai techniques. This would be a lot easier to scale if Byukuya had actually fought Vaizard Ichigo.

321zigzag3 10-23-2010 10:32 AM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
Bankai Ichigo was superior to Byakuya but Ichigo held back in his blitz. And also Ichigo wasn't experienced enoughto utilize his bankai effectively in time length.

I doubt Byakuya can take on Vizard Ichigo though.

Bacon 10-23-2010 10:50 AM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
That's true, the realization of wrapping the getsugatensho around his zanpaktou doubled his power at the very least. Here's the thing about this match up, Grim is a all out physical guy and Byukuya has a more versataile power set such as sealing him with a bakudo. While it sounds silly to even me, I don't think you can fully compare Grim to Ichigo.

Based on the fact taht his it was Ichigo who slashed through Gokei and not Grim, while seeing that the 7th Espada's(forgot his name)hierro was useless to the sheer number of strikes by Byuyaku's bankai. I'd say that Grim would have a hard time only because of his limited attack set.

321zigzag3 10-23-2010 10:52 AM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
Zommari's hierro was pathetic.

Grimmjow's base hierro was so much superior.

Bacon 10-23-2010 11:13 AM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
Tis true that all Espada are not created equal,but Grim's attack stats are not identical to Ichigo's.

321zigzag3 10-23-2010 11:15 AM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
So what exactly is Byakuya going to do to Released Grimmjow? Especially his darts, and those giant long reiatsu claws, and spam?

Bacon 10-23-2010 12:20 PM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
His darts are straight forward, his giant claws are straight forward,and Grim employed Gran reys via punch/slash.

Edit: basically, I'm arguing that Byuyakuya could win on skill alone. He wouldn't have the choice to use brute force.

tyrell4life194 10-23-2010 12:47 PM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yori (Post 4203855)
No restrictions.

Who wins?

I hope you were joking when you made this thread. Byakuya can barely handle the 7th espada in his bankai form, and Ichigo got dominated by Grimmjow in HIS bankai form. We all know that Ichigo is stronger than Byakuya in Bankai, and Grimmjow was on par with Ichigo, even with he had his mask on. Grimmjow in his release form can murder Byakuya. This is a stomp thread.

Stomp thread is stomp.

Bacon 10-23-2010 12:52 PM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
You do realize that Grimjow =/= equal to Ichigo? On an another note, Byuyakuya didn't Even need his Bankai's true form to defeat zomari. :/

tyrell4life194 10-23-2010 12:57 PM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon (Post 4204750)
You do realize that Grimjow =/= equal to Ichigo? On an another note, Byuyakuya didn't Even need his Bankai's true form to defeat zomari. :/

What part of Grimmjow being on par with Hollow Ichigo do you know understand? Being on par just means that they're strong enough to give their opponent a run for their money.

Umm so? Ichigo defeated Byakuya even when Byakuya was in his true Bankai form. And ichigo lost to Grimmjow in his bankai form.

Not only that, but I highly doubt Byakuya can handle Ichigo in his hollow form, let alone his bankai form, and Grimmow was, I repeat, ON PAR, with Ichigo. He's not as strong as him, but he was still on par with him, long enough to do some damage to Ichigo in his Bankai+Hollow form, which I seriously doubt Byakuya can handle.

Bacon 10-23-2010 01:10 PM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tyrell4life194 (Post 4204755)
What part of Grimmjow being on par with Hollow Ichigo do you know understand? Being on par just means that they're strong enough to give their opponent a run for their money.

Umm so? Ichigo defeated Byakuya even when Byakuya was in his true Bankai form. And ichigo lost to Grimmjow in his bankai form.

Not only that, but I highly doubt Byakuya can handle Ichigo in his hollow form, let alone his bankai form, and Grimmow was, I repeat, ON PAR, with Ichigo. He's not as strong as him, but he was still on par with him, long enough to do some damage to Ichigo in his Bankai+Hollow form, which I seriously doubt Byakuya can handle.

Technically this is wrong,the hollow within Ichigo interfered to stop the lethal blow. Once this happened,the infant vaizard powers kicked in to injury Byaukuya.

This on par business proves nothing. Unlike ichigo, Byukuya has an arsenal of Kido spells and a superior shunpu to combat grim. As I stated, grim and ichigo are two different people. His gran rey cero are not as powerful as getsugatensho.

THE X UCHIHA 10-23-2010 01:13 PM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
Quote:

Byakuya can barely handle the 7th espada in his bankai form
firstly, Grimmjow is the 6th espada

secondly , Grimmjow can beat Byakuya by Gran rey cero , or Desgarron in the worst situations.

thirdly , I don't think Grimmjow is gonna be in need 4 using his Ressureccion.


only wankers think that Byakuya can beat Grimmjow.

tyrell4life194 10-23-2010 01:14 PM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon (Post 4204796)
Technically this is wrong,the hollow within Ichigo interfered to stop the lethal blow. Once this happened,the infant vaizard powers kicked in to injury Byaukuya.

This on par business proves nothing. Unlike ichigo, Byukuya has an arsenal of Kido spells and a superior shunpu to combat grim. As I stated, grim and ichigo are two different people. His gran rey cero are not as powerful as getsugatensho.

You do have a point but Ichigo still technically defeated Byakuya, or came clearly damn close, probably because of PlotKai.

Dude, there's no proof that Byakuya has a superior shunpo to match Grimmjow in his Release form. Besides, on the par business, lets not forget that Grimmjow kept up with Ichigo in his Bankai+Hollow Form, whereas Byakuya couldn't even see Ichigo. He did however increased his speed on his Senbonzakura, but unless you have proof that Byakuya can keep up with Grimmjow, then you should just lock this thread.

I never said anything about Grimmjow and Ichigo being the same, I merely stated that Grimmjow was able to hold his own against Ichigo in Hollow+Bankai form.

Bacon 10-23-2010 01:15 PM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
Why don't you actually quote me coward? Or are you scared that the only response you have is lol Gran rey cero?

tyrell4life194 10-23-2010 01:17 PM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon (Post 4204808)
Why don't you actually quote me coward? Or are you scared that the only response you have is lol Gran rey cero?

OK, when did I stated about Grimmjow's Gran Rey Cero? Hmm, that would be NEVER.

Bacon 10-23-2010 01:18 PM

Re: Byakuya va. Grimmjow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tyrell4life194 (Post 4204806)
You do have a point but Ichigo still technically defeated Byakuya, or came clearly damn close, probably because of PlotKai.

Dude, there's no proof that Byakuya has a superior shunpo to match Grimmjow in his Release form. Besides, on the par business, lets not forget that Grimmjow kept up with Ichigo in his Bankai+Hollow Form, whereas Byakuya couldn't even see Ichigo. He did however increased his speed on his Senbonzakura, but unless you have proof that Byakuya can keep up with Grimmjow, then you should just lock this thread.

I never said anything about Grimmjow and Ichigo being the same, I merely stated that Grimmjow was able to hold his own against Ichigo in Hollow+Bankai form.

By feats, Grim wins easily. :/ You do realize that Byuyakuya never used the shunpu that Yoriuchi taught him,right? I'm inferring that he is fast enough to keep up with Grim since he never used it against Ichigo. :/

Tyreal4life: I was talking to the X akatsuki. :3


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