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Wing Zero 02-13-2010 09:54 AM

Madara lacks one thing, and it makes him a better villian
 
Arrogance. Madara is patient. I've noticed that he doesn't underestimate his enemies. He's evil, ruthless, and a liar. But I think he's such a great villian because he doesn't fall into the "no one can defeat me, I am invincible" sterotype.

It's very refreshing.

senji 02-13-2010 09:57 AM

Re: Madara lacks one thing, and it makes him a better villian
 
No i bealive that Madara is perfect as he is he doesn't need anything.

Tobi Madara 02-13-2010 09:58 AM

Re: Madara lacks one thing, and it makes him a better villian
 
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Originally Posted by senji (Post 2443945)
No i bealive that Madara is perfect as he is he doesn't need anything.

Of course he doesn't need it. He just said it makes him a better villain without it.

Wing Zero 02-13-2010 10:12 AM

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One thing I've noticed too, Madara is constantly trying to impart his traits on to Sasuke, and Sasuke is having NONE of it. I believe no matter how powerful Sasuke has become, his arrogance will be his down fall.

Wooster 02-13-2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wing Zero (Post 2443932)
Arrogance. Madara is patient. I've noticed that he doesn't underestimate his enemies. He's evil, ruthless, and a liar. But I think he's such a great villian because he doesn't fall into the "no one can defeat me, I am invincible" sterotype.

It's very refreshing.

Actually ,it wasn't always true. Madara did attack the first Hokage. Experience has taught Madara to be patient.

senji 02-13-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Wooster (Post 2444022)
Actually ,it wasn't always true. Madara did attack the first Hokage. Experience has taught Madara to be patient.


Totally right.

Parak111 02-13-2010 10:53 AM

Re: Madara lacks one thing, and it makes him a better villian
 
I agree with this. Unlike Sasuke, he doesn't self-delude himself how "powerful" and "invincible" he is. Sasuke thinks of himself that he's the most powerful ninja in the whole world, but he doesn't know how wrong he is.

Hidden Ninja45 02-13-2010 11:31 AM

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Yeah, that definately makes Madara an awesome villian. Since he has EMS and can supposedly live forever, he can afford to be patient. And since Sasuke is only 16 or 17 at this point, Madara has pletty of time to do whatever it is he plans to do with Sasuke.

mrsticky005 02-13-2010 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wing Zero (Post 2443932)
Arrogance. Madara is patient. I've noticed that he doesn't underestimate his enemies. He's evil, ruthless, and a liar. But I think he's such a great villian because he doesn't fall into the "no one can defeat me, I am invincible" sterotype.

It's very refreshing.


Just cause Madara tells Sasuke he needs to be patient doesn't mean he is.

Madara is arrogant and he's not so patient. He said "I want to hurry up the Moon Eye Plan" and even told his plan to the Kages. That's arrogance.

Madara is telling Sasuke not to use up his eyes because he eventually
wants Sasuke's eyes for himself. I think Madara originally intended
to take Itachi's eyes but decided against it because Itachi purposely
wasted his so that the last of his power would be given to Sasuke.

Zeek Uchiha 02-13-2010 01:57 PM

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well he is patient but come on waiting all these years to make plans go in affect

Tobi Madara 02-13-2010 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeek Uchiha (Post 2445415)
well he is patient but come on waiting all these years to make plans go in affect

If that's what it takes

C4 Karura 02-13-2010 02:07 PM

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Hmm... I hadn't noticed this before, but you're totally right! Rep Up!

Wooster 02-13-2010 02:18 PM

Re: Madara lacks one thing, and it makes him a better villian
 
You know Madara was really impatient when he had Pain attack Konoha because of that he lost his most useful member. Madara didn't know anything about Naruto until after Naruto changed Nagato's mind. Actually, Madara has been involved in so many things, Nine tails attack, Uchiha massacre, Akatsuki, controlling Mizukage, revealing himself to everyone, he's not patient he's a glory hog.

Now Danzo, there's a patient man.

kokojojo 02-13-2010 02:23 PM

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yea the only reason he didnt attack konoha sooner was because itachi wud've had him poopin his pants. but he does have some patience tho, since he cud've just kidnapped naruto when he was trying to keep naruto n friends away from sasuke and itachi. on top of that he's been hiding for a really long time letting everyone assume he's dead, u kno if u were in his spot u'd be itching just to make a scene to make people talk about u

KARINISSOSEXY 02-13-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Parak111 (Post 2444198)
I agree with this. Unlike Sasuke, he doesn't self-delude himself how "powerful" and "invincible" he is. Sasuke thinks of himself that he's the most powerful ninja in the whole world, but he doesn't know how wrong he is.

I dont think he thanks that, I just think he doesnt put any thought into how underpowered he is compared to some.

kokojojo 02-13-2010 04:15 PM

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isnt naruto like that too?

*Talim of the moonlight* 02-13-2010 04:20 PM

Re: Madara lacks one thing, and it makes him a better villian
 
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Originally Posted by Wooster (Post 2444022)
Actually ,it wasn't always true. Madara did attack the first Hokage. Experience has taught Madara to be patient.

Yeah i think the same thing too!

mrsticky005 02-13-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wooster (Post 2445571)
You know Madara was really impatient when he had Pain attack Konoha because of that he lost his most useful member. Madara didn't know anything about Naruto until after Naruto changed Nagato's mind. Actually, Madara has been involved in so many things, Nine tails attack, Uchiha massacre, Akatsuki, controlling Mizukage, revealing himself to everyone, he's not patient he's a glory hog.

Now Danzo, there's a patient man.

Agreed. Danzo is patient. But in the "I'm just waiting for the right moment to kill you" type patient. It's a shame he had to die. The whole Sasuke vs Danzo fight felt forced. Now I'm not saying it was a bad fight because I think it was actually pretty good (who cares if it has random power ups? They're magical ninjas after all). Actually the fights themselves have all been good what bothers me is they all feel like they've been forced.

Danzo's patience can be seen when he tells The Foundation not to
do anything to Naruto just yet as the people of Konoha see him
as a hero when they wanted to capture him as soon as possible.

Wooster 02-13-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsticky005 (Post 2446677)
Agreed. Danzo is patient. But in the "I'm just waiting for the right moment to kill you" type patient. It's a shame he had to die. The whole Sasuke vs Danzo fight felt forced. Now I'm not saying it was a bad fight because I think it was actually pretty good (who cares if it has random power ups? They're magical ninjas after all). Actually the fights themselves have all been good what bothers me is they all feel like they've been forced.

Danzo's patience can be seen when he tells The Foundation not to
do anything to Naruto just yet as the people of Konoha see him
as a hero when they wanted to capture him as soon as possible.

A man has to be patient if he spends all the time lurking in holes.

I agree the Danzo v. Sasuke battle was pretty good and powerups while unexpected had severe limits. When it comes down to it, Izanagi is actually less useful than Madara's ghosting abilities.

I also agree battles have seemed forced recently. I wonder if Kishimoto is thinking: " Ah, screw it! I'm wrapping up this Naruto manga."

mrsticky005 02-13-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wooster (Post 2446762)
A man has to be patient if he spends all the time lurking in holes.

I agree the Danzo v. Sasuke battle was pretty good and powerups while unexpected had severe limits. When it comes down to it, Izanagi is actually less useful than Madara's ghosting abilities.

I also agree battles have seemed forced recently. I wonder if Kishimoto is thinking: " Ah, screw it! I'm wrapping up this Naruto manga."

The Killer Bee fight made sense. But the whole Kage vs Sasuke fight not so much. It was like

Kishimoto: Check it out. Sasuke will try and destroy Konoha!
Fan: But Pain already did
Kishimoto: Dang...well uh...He's going to fight the uh hm KAGES! Yeah!
Fan: Isn't this manga called Naruto? Why not more of him instead?
Kishimoto: My box of crayolas ran out of orange. I need to buy more.


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