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shikimaru nara 01-18-2010 01:57 PM

amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
which is more powerful

Hidden Ninja45 01-18-2010 04:03 PM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
I'd say Amaterasu since it can burn anything, even normal fire.

Akatsuki pwns all 01-18-2010 04:14 PM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
Amaterasu beacause it doesnt extinguish until enemy turns in to ash even if its fire itself

Outer Path 01-20-2010 06:27 AM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
RasenShuriken is shown to be the more powerful jutsu, though it does require far more chakra.

(1) It's completed version when thrown doesn't do any lasting damage to its user, unlike Ameratsu normally does to its user ("normal" meaning "without EMS").

(2) 1 RasenShuriken is more destructive than 1 Ameratsu, if not more destructive, being shown to destroy/hollow out easily a mountain's worth of land in 1 hit (see the one that exploded after missing Deva Realm).

(3) It's been shown to accelerate through the air faster, far faster. It passed by several mountains in a second, surpassing hypersonic speed - and it's to be expected, seeing as (a) it's an S-rank jutsu not even the 4th could complete that's meant to be thrown when completed and (b) SM Naruto has the greatest strength shown in the manga, having been able to throw a 2-story rhino several hundred meters in the air (take a look at the size of the rhino - which is easily 15 meters long - and compare it with distance it was thrown), a rhino, when its weight was calced, reached a low-end estimate of a couple thousand tons.

uzumakisgirl 01-20-2010 07:55 AM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
amaterasu it dosent extinguish until the enemy its caught by it

Sephiroth 01-20-2010 07:59 AM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
remove the link because it has a naruto image in it

[Shikamaru] 01-20-2010 08:05 AM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
Rasen will destroy Amy.

It will pass directly through it, and kill anything behind Amy.

You can't burn Sage chakra with MS, Amy would get ROFLSTOMPED.

Titankahn 01-21-2010 11:01 AM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noteusuck (Post 2281396)
well i wouldnt say that it does the least amount of damage to the user, naruto's arm was basically shatterd after using it, but the amaterasu makes it were if the user uses it to much, he/she goes blind :l idk, i love both jutsus

Spoiler:
Naruto will be able to throw Rasen-shuriken in sage mode, without damageing his arm.

Al. 01-21-2010 12:37 PM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
The amaterasu can be cast at a distance. It will not go out until it comsumes everythng. It is completely controlable by the caster. In otherwords the caster can stop it from burning whenever they want, as they did with the 8 tail battle.

rasen-shuriken is much more powerful since it contains the rasengan which has be said over and over again to be the ultimate chakra created by the 4th and could not be brought further until Naruto finished what the fourth could not do.
So to answer your question it is Naruto's Jutsu the is more powerful.

*But* it does not mean that he could win using it against amaterasu because as I told you amaterasu can be invoked from a distance and does not need to be delievered at point blank range.

Now if you add a water toad pistol to it Naruto may win it just depends on the fight.

Hope it helps

Al.

noteusuck 01-21-2010 02:55 PM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
RASEN-SHURIKEN!!! although the amaterasu can burn anything, even regular fire..... now im undecided...... AMATERASU!!!!!! XD

noteusuck 01-21-2010 02:57 PM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Titankahn (Post 2286158)
Spoiler:
Naruto will be able to throw Rasen-shuriken in sage mode, without damageing his arm.

Spoiler:
but naruto hasn't been able to enter sage mode yet, exept in the manga

Hyou Ookami 02-02-2010 02:15 PM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
rasen-shuriken cause it doesnt just kill them it also severs the chakra system with tiny air needles. all amaterasu is is just catching people on fire. Plus rasen-shuriken has a major after affect
Spoiler:
gradually severing the users chakra system plus it broke naruto-kuns arm

i vote rasen shuriken:mrgreen:

Kitsujiro Fuyu 02-02-2010 05:50 PM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
The Rasen-shuriken may indeed be powerful... but its injuries can be managable. If you're caught in the black flames of the Amaterasu, and don't have a way to seal off the flames, then you'll end up to be nothing but a crisp.

Akatsuki pwns all 02-02-2010 07:54 PM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
Amaterasu cuz it doesnt extinguish till the oppent burn into ash even if it fire itself

dragonjinchuriki dj 02-02-2010 07:57 PM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
amaterasu because it doesnt extinguish until whatever its burning until its burnt to ashes unless your sasuke who can extinguish them himself and also amaterasu is fire which is strengthened by wind

HaiJoylikeduh 02-02-2010 08:03 PM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
Amatarasu

kekki genki 02-02-2010 08:39 PM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Outer Path (Post 2280302)
RasenShuriken is shown to be the more powerful jutsu, though it does require far more chakra.

(1) It's completed version when thrown doesn't do any lasting damage to its user, unlike Ameratsu normally does to its user ("normal" meaning "without EMS").

(2) 1 RasenShuriken is more destructive than 1 Ameratsu, if not more destructive, being shown to destroy/hollow out easily a mountain's worth of land in 1 hit (see the one that exploded after missing Deva Realm).

(3) It's been shown to accelerate through the air faster, far faster. It passed by several mountains in a second, surpassing hypersonic speed - and it's to be expected, seeing as (a) it's an S-rank jutsu not even the 4th could complete that's meant to be thrown when completed and (b) SM Naruto has the greatest strength shown in the manga, having been able to throw a 2-story rhino several hundred meters in the air (take a look at the size of the rhino - which is easily 15 meters long - and compare it with distance it was thrown), a rhino, when its weight was calced, reached a low-end estimate of a couple thousand tons.

this is on point how can u even argue it after reading this.....this thread is dead after this was posted....all people are sayin for amaretsu is it burns stuff and can't be extinguished

Ockinga 02-02-2010 08:56 PM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
I think Rasen-Shuriken would push through Ameratatsu because it has more destructive force. It would hit the Ameratatsu user with flames attached to it.

Akatsuki X 02-03-2010 02:34 PM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
well it depends on what your define as "more powerful"
obviously Rasen-Shuriken is a more powerful concentrated jutsu
but Amaterasu causes more widespread damage
.

Ockinga 02-03-2010 02:57 PM

Re: amaterasu vs. rasen-shuriken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsujiro Fuyu (Post 2373125)
The Rasen-shuriken may indeed be powerful... but its injuries can be managable. If you're caught in the black flames of the Amaterasu, and don't have a way to seal off the flames, then you'll end up to be nothing but a crisp.

The injuries to Rasen-Shuriken are not manageable. So far in the manga, it has connected twice. It killed Kakazu and destroyed two of the pains. You get hit with that and your dead. Saskue was able to use Orchimaru style substitution to escape Ameratatsu plus if you have sharingan you can put it out.


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