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Omega 10-08-2009 12:12 AM

Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Who would win in a fight between a healthy Kimimaro and Deidara.

Lone Wolf 10-08-2009 12:19 AM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Deidara got this, Kimmimaro is a short range fighter and Deidara is a long, Kaguya can't fly but Deidara can so Kaguya can't touch him. His bone hardening won't work against C4 because it enters your cell also C3 can break it.

Omega 10-08-2009 01:14 AM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
The whole flying thing is wrong remember Kimimaro can use the Dance of the Seedling Fern to get into the sky like he did to Gaara as well as infinitely regenerate his bones to hide from the C 4 which does eventually wear off. Kimimaro can move faster than Deidara as well as use his bones as projectile weapons as well as his mid range spine whip. During the Dance of the seedling Fern he can appear from any of the bones to attack Deidara.

Lone Wolf 10-08-2009 01:19 AM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Its called Sawarabi No Mai and it got a limit to how high it can reach but naturally a bird can fly higher and regening bones have no defence against C4 because it destroys your cells not bones. Kaguya can shoot teshi sendan but Deidara's bird can dodge it. And you didnt say how he can survive C3. and if everything fails he can use C0 to atleast make it a draw.

Omega 10-08-2009 01:28 AM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
C4 does destroy cells but to regenerate bones cells have to be created and he can create them just as fast as C4 destroys them. C3 I doubt could break his bones since they did virtually nothing to Gaara's Sand. Kimimaro's bones were able to withstand an ungodly amount of pressure as seen during his fight with Gaara. As for C0 I can't really say much about that so that would make it a tie.

Sasori12 10-08-2009 04:54 PM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Well, it doesn't matter if C-4 can't affect his bones. If it gets rid of his other cells, then Kimimaro is dead.

[Shikamaru] 10-08-2009 04:55 PM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Kimi wins. Finger tip Projectiles should kill Deidara.
They are like bullets.

devapath 10-08-2009 05:01 PM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
kimimaro, if his bones can with stand a rock lee kick then they can with stand c4 explosives, plus he is a deciple of orochimaru which makes him ten times more likely to win than deidara

no disrespect to deidara fans

Miles Edgeworth 10-08-2009 06:09 PM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Seriously now guys? You think Kimi even has a CHANCE?

Deidara stomps. He has shown speeds that mean he can probably keep up with Kimimaro, and if he flies, nothing Kimimaro can do will injure Deidara. If Deidara uses C3, then Kimi is doomed. If Deidara uses C4, he uber stomps since Kimimaro has no defense for it.

Sasori12 10-08-2009 07:19 PM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rocklee_112713 (Post 1371927)
Seriously now guys? You think Kimi even has a CHANCE?

Deidara stomps. He has shown speeds that mean he can probably keep up with Kimimaro, and if he flies, nothing Kimimaro can do will injure Deidara. If Deidara uses C3, then Kimi is doomed. If Deidara uses C4, he uber stomps since Kimimaro has no defense for it.

Exactly!

Miles Edgeworth 10-08-2009 07:36 PM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
The arguments for Kimi are so pitiful, it's funny how Kimimaro is so overrated.

Omega 10-08-2009 08:50 PM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Again I will point out that people over rate Deidara. One his nomal explosions would do nothing at all while C3 destroys cells Kimimaro can produce cells just as fast as Deidara can destroy them he has proven this by producing bones and skin. Deidara is good I will give him that but still people underate Kimimaro allot because he died in the original series. I can see Kimimaro living through all but C0. I will not argue further because it won't really end some like Kimi and will argue continuously in his favor while others like Deidara and will follow suit.

Sasori12 10-08-2009 08:56 PM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 1373339)
Again I will point out that people over rate Deidara. One his nomal explosions would do nothing at all while C3 destroys cells Kimimaro can produce cells just as fast as Deidara can destroy them he has proven this by producing bones and skin. Deidara is good I will give him that but still people underate Kimimaro allot because he died in the original series. I can see Kimimaro living through all but C0. I will not argue further because it won't really end some like Kimi and will argue continuously in his favor while others like Deidara and will follow suit.

Replenishing his cells would probably take up alot of chakra. Think about it he's not just replacing bone and skin cells, he is replacing every cell in his body.

Omega 10-08-2009 09:10 PM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasori12 (Post 1373376)
Replenishing his cells would probably take up alot of chakra. Think about it he's not just replacing bone and skin cells, he is replacing every cell in his body.

I see where your coming from but that is one reason why I said a healthy Kimi. He was able to fight with a Kage. Another thing is Deidara wouldn't use C3 unless he actually thought he would lose.

Miles Edgeworth 10-08-2009 09:56 PM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 1373339)
Again I will point out that people over rate Deidara. One his nomal explosions would do nothing at all while C3 destroys cells Kimimaro can produce cells just as fast as Deidara can destroy them he has proven this by producing bones and skin. Deidara is good I will give him that but still people underate Kimimaro allot because he died in the original series. I can see Kimimaro living through all but C0. I will not argue further because it won't really end some like Kimi and will argue continuously in his favor while others like Deidara and will follow suit.

Deidara's top tier, Kimimaro is not. What you're doing is comparing the likes of Rock Lee and Pre Gaara to an Akatsuki S-Rank Criminal.

Kimimaro would not survive C2 missile spam. He's not as durable as you think.

C4 destroys cells. And the opponent DISINTEGRATES when hit by C4, you seriously think Kimimaro has cell regen that quick? No, he doesn't. You have no proof he does.

C3 was about to destroy a village, you think Kimimaro is durable as a village? >_>

I prefer Kimi over Deidara, but you overrate the guy. He doesn't even have good long range, Dance of the Seedling Fern is his best long range and it won't hit an airborne Deidara. Meanwhile, Deidara can easily prep C3 to kill him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 1373429)
I see where your coming from but that is one reason why I said a healthy Kimi. He was able to fight with a Kage. Another thing is Deidara wouldn't use C3 unless he actually thought he would lose.

That was an ANIME ONLY scene. Meaning it was filler, and not canon. If you don't know what that means, basically it means it did not truly happen. Plus, how do we even know the 4th had fighting abilities? For all we know, the guy may have been leader for political purposes only.

He doesn't need C3, Kimimaro can't kill him. If Deidara can tank Chidori, he can tank any of Kimimaro's attacks, assuming he stands there and doesn't dodge.

You're overrating Kimimaro. He's around mid tier in Narutoverse, he's not as powerful as you claim. Even without the disease, his fighting skills aren't enhanced to Deidara's level. He just won't get killed mid-battle by sickness.

yokokurama 10-08-2009 10:15 PM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Deidara owns this, other people said why before I could.

Kuromaki 10-09-2009 05:49 AM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Deidara wins, Kimimaro can't really tank a lot of C2 missiles and his bird would let him get out of Kimimaro's range. C3 or C4 would destroy Kimi.

JCTKNE4E 10-09-2009 06:01 AM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rocklee_112713 (Post 1373645)
Deidara's top tier, Kimimaro is not. What you're doing is comparing the likes of Rock Lee and Pre Gaara to an Akatsuki S-Rank Criminal.

Kimimaro would not survive C2 missile spam. He's not as durable as you think.

C4 destroys cells. And the opponent DISINTEGRATES when hit by C4, you seriously think Kimimaro has cell regen that quick? No, he doesn't. You have no proof he does.

C3 was about to destroy a village, you think Kimimaro is durable as a village? >_>

I prefer Kimi over Deidara, but you overrate the guy. He doesn't even have good long range, Dance of the Seedling Fern is his best long range and it won't hit an airborne Deidara. Meanwhile, Deidara can easily prep C3 to kill him.



That was an ANIME ONLY scene. Meaning it was filler, and not canon. If you don't know what that means, basically it means it did not truly happen. Plus, how do we even know the 4th had fighting abilities? For all we know, the guy may have been leader for political purposes only.

He doesn't need C3, Kimimaro can't kill him. If Deidara can tank Chidori, he can tank any of Kimimaro's attacks, assuming he stands there and doesn't dodge.

You're overrating Kimimaro. He's around mid tier in Narutoverse, he's not as powerful as you claim. Even without the disease, his fighting skills aren't enhanced to Deidara's level. He just won't get killed mid-battle by sickness.

While i wont argue that diedara would probably win, here are some valid points as to why kimimaro at least stands a semblance of a chance. Kimimaro would survive C2, simply by altering the density of his bones. He proved that even diseased this was not hard for him to do. I actually DO think that Kimi can tank damage that an entire village cannot. If a village was buried miles underground, the pressure would destroy it. Kimi remained conscious, alert, and uncrushed. So actually, he IS as durable as a village. Remember that he has CMS1 and 2 at his disposal, boositng his durability, speed, and range of fighting greatly.

Simply the creation of his bones proves that he can regenerate his bone cells as fast as Deidara could destroy them. He CREATES an entire lance of solid bone in a second, thats BILLIONS of bone cells created instantaneously. So yes, he can regenerate as fast as it would disentegrate, and has shown evidence of such. However, all other cells would be destroyed, which means no organs, bloodflow, etc, leaving a skeleton to remain. Diedara wins. But Kimi would not get STOMPED as you put it.

Vivi 10-09-2009 08:42 AM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
Wait since when can Kimimaro regenerate Skin etc???
Shikotsumyaku only allows Kimi to manipulate Bone Growth by infusing Calcium with Chakra.It never says anything about Skin Cells.
So Bones only.Nothing more.No Skin or anything.
Even if his Bones would survive in the end he'd be nothing more than a Skeleton.

C3 would destroy his Bones and how does he wanna defend against C4?
Kimi got no defense against bombs in his bloodstream.
Heck Dei wouldnt even need C3 or C4.C2 Dragon got Guided Missiles while Deidara can bomb out Kimi with C1.

Deidara would only lose if he uses C0 cause he's dead first.--.--

Avenger 10-09-2009 03:42 PM

Re: Kimimaro vs Deidara
 
OMG Deidara stomps.

How does Kimimaro even reach him? If he couldn't reach Gaara with his Braken Dance, Deidara dodges or avoides it with ease. How's Kimi gonna survive a C4, let alone a C3? He may be fast, but not enough to get out of the range.


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