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Konan9 08-17-2009 01:33 PM

Minato vs. First Hokage
 
Who would win? The Fourth Hokage? Or the founder of Konoha? (If this has already been posted somewhere just ignore this thread and go to the other one :mrgreen:)
TELL ME REASONS.

I would choose Minato.

When the Third Hokage was fighting Orochimaru; and Orochimaru used Kuchiyose Endotensei (Summoning reanimation), Sarutobi made sure that the third would not rise. A reasonable guess is that the third is Minato, which means that Sarutobi counted Minato as the most challenging to fight of all the other Hokages.

Avenger 08-17-2009 01:37 PM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
First Hokage. Minato can't do anything if Hashirama creates a forest. And he also has Bijuu control, which even Gamabunta can't stand up to.

Space Cowboy Sasori 08-17-2009 02:03 PM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
Correct, he can pretty much block the Transporting Kunai with his forest. The first is a close range fighter, from the jutsu's I've seen and that have been reported, the First however is long range.

mangagirl 08-17-2009 02:05 PM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
first hokage

Konan9 08-17-2009 02:06 PM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mangagirl (Post 919383)
first hokage

Your reason?

Blakexd9 08-17-2009 02:13 PM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
Minato. With his lightning speed he could beat him.

Kuromaki 08-17-2009 02:46 PM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
1st Hokage for reasons above.

[Shikamaru] 08-25-2009 10:42 PM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
I believe the 4th would win, you've seen the 1st's speed, he is no match for the 4th

Konan9 08-25-2009 10:44 PM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by [Shikamaru] (Post 1000633)
I believe the 4th would win, you've seen the 1st's speed, he is no match for the 4th

FINALLY!!! Geez, nearly everyone was against me. Thank you Shikamaru! :mrgreen:

Konan9 08-25-2009 11:12 PM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
My poor first thread... it's dead :(

Miles Edgeworth 08-25-2009 11:40 PM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
Hashirama would pwn Minato, people think he could speedblitz Hashirama but he needs to use his kunai to move that fast, and if Hashirama sets up a huge forest, Minato will have to jump for his life to survive, and if Hashirama uses Bringer of Darkness, Minato can't see and therefore is defenseless against Hashirama.

Nero 08-26-2009 08:13 AM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
Yondaime would stomp the the shodaime

Reasons::

1-He is more faster
2-Forest can't do anything against speed yondaime can Spread his kunais all over the battlefield to make easy to transport
3-He has toad summons and Boss summon

The only problem for Minato is Bringer of the darkness ..... But i think he can surpress it

abby750 08-26-2009 09:13 AM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
firts hokage becase's better :mrgreen:

Kuromaki 08-26-2009 09:17 AM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nero (Post 1002258)
Yondaime would stomp the the shodaime

Reasons::

1-He is more faster

2-Forest can't do anything against speed yondaime can Spread his kunais all over the battlefield to make easy to transport

3-He has toad summons and Boss summon


The only problem for Minato is Bringer of the darkness ..... But i think he can surpress it


1. Grammar fail...
2
. Yes, and Hashirama's going to stand there and watch him do that.
3
. And...? Hashirama can control Bijus. Also, he can use Wood Jutsu on the summons.
A
s for Bringer of Darkness - You THINK he can suppress it but can he truly do that?

arsenakos 08-26-2009 09:31 AM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
first would win because the powers he have no one had only yamato but hi dont have so stron first even defeat madara who hwve mangekyo own and his brother he would win the fourth hokage,the third ist the fourth hokage.

Fan of Minato 08-26-2009 09:45 AM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
The Fourth would win, the youngest of the Hokages, is always the most powerful.

but the Fourth has too many abilities, to overlook.
so, he has FTG, which will allow him to dodge attacks,
the rasengan.
sealing jutsu.
Death Reaper Seal, etc.
I say fourth.
but would be a close battle.

but --_--"
I accidentally voted for Hashirama, I wanted to vote for Minato....................

Miles Edgeworth 08-26-2009 10:07 AM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fan of Minato (Post 1002734)
The Fourth would win, the youngest of the Hokages, is always the most powerful.

but the Fourth has too many abilities, to overlook.
so, he has FTG, which will allow him to dodge attacks,
the rasengan.
sealing jutsu.
Death Reaper Seal, etc.
I say fourth.
but would be a close battle.

but --_--"
I accidentally voted for Hashirama, I wanted to vote for Minato....................

The whole "the next generation surpasses the other" is incorrect, otherwise Tsunade would be stronger than Hashirama, Tobirama, and Hiruzen but she's not. And Sakura aint gonna beat Jiraiya.

Flying Thunder God requires open space to throw a kunai, but if Hashirama makes a forest there won't be necessary room to travel quickly enough to kill Hashirama.

Rasengan is not all that powerful, Kabuto, who is inferior to Hashirama, tanked it, and it is a close range attack that Minato will never get a chance to use.

We don't even know what his sealing jutsu are, we can't assume he has Five-Pronged Seal or anything like that.

Reaper Death Seal requires you to grab your opponent at close range, an impossible task for Minato, and in the end, both people die, meaning Minato would tie at best.

Also, if Hashirama used Bringer of Darkness, Minato can't do anything to defend.

(un)Godly Hiroku 08-26-2009 10:54 AM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
v-valentien posted in interveiw about masashi
and he said the strongest dead ninja was minato and maybe sandaime(sarutobi/3rdhokage)

Kuromaki 08-26-2009 10:58 AM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by (un)Godly Hiroku (Post 1003196)
v-valentien posted in interveiw about masashi
and he said the strongest dead ninja was minato and maybe sandaime(sarutobi/3rdhokage)

If Minato shows more moves then he can win, but right now he can't with his shown abilities.

(un)Godly Hiroku 08-26-2009 11:01 AM

Re: Minato vs. First Hokage
 
well obviously if the writer of the series says he can win
then he can win
and he is extremely fast and can teleport
he'd easily be able to get behind hashimara and rasengan him
so yes minato is better


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