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topchef 06-10-2013 04:49 PM

Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
Kyuubi is banned

Fight takes place on the battlefield

Who wins?

Maruko 06-10-2013 05:02 PM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
Madara stomps for being more bad-ass and more destructive.

topchef 06-10-2013 05:13 PM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
I actually thought sage Kabuto was more badass.

Edyl 06-10-2013 05:44 PM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
Madara destroyed the five Kage with a perfect Susanoo. Kabuto was defeated by Itachi and Sasuke when they were holding back. Sasuke asked during the fight if they could just kill him, but Itachi said no because of the Edo Tensei. I don't think Madara would have a difficult time with Kabuto. Also, Madara's perfect Susanoo was able to cut a mountain in half.

Gentlefist 06-10-2013 05:52 PM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
Madara stomps

You guys so realize that saskue or itachi could have beaten kabuto via Amaterasu.


Without prep/ET then kabuto can't win

Amaterasu GG

321zigzag3 06-10-2013 07:19 PM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
I am pretty sure Oral Rebirth counters Amaterasu.

Both sides were holding back in that cave fight anyway.

topchef 06-10-2013 07:24 PM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
Kabuto's goal was to get Itachi back in his control so he wasn't even bloodlusted.

Madara using amaterasu is OOC until he actually uses it in the upcoming chapters.

What does Madara's destructive capabilities have to do with countering broken techniques like white rage?

Gentlefist 06-10-2013 07:25 PM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
Saskue was eager to kill him. They knew they could do it easily but chose not to.

If not Amaterasu then ....

I don't see how kabuto gets past Perfect Susanoo

topchef 06-10-2013 07:44 PM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gentlefist (Post 6734802)
Saskue was eager to kill him. They knew they could do it easily but chose not to.

If not Amaterasu then ....

I don't see how kabuto gets past Perfect Susanoo

Oral rebirth counters amaterasu or he can arguably dodge it since he was literally the first shinobi to actually dodge susanoo's arrow using nothing but speed.

He can counter perfect susanoo with temple of nirvana, white rage, orb sound gengutsu

Actually sound gengutsu then temple of nirvana then this fight is over

Kyo Yasanagi 06-10-2013 07:48 PM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
i think kabuto wins with high difficulty, this dude blitzed sasuke and itachi b4 they could even activate theyre sharingan, the only problem is susanoo

topchef 06-10-2013 07:53 PM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyo Yasanagi (Post 6734836)
i think kabuto wins with high difficulty, this dude blitzed sasuke and itachi b4 they could even activate theyre sharingan, the only problem is susanoo

Sound gengutsu+temple of nirvana will drop susanoo and put Madara to sleep

Gentlefist 06-10-2013 08:10 PM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
Kkkk so Amaterasu is useless

BUT

Kabuto has to stand still while using genjutsu. So he would be an easy target to get pierced with susanoo sword or burned with katon

topchef 06-10-2013 08:32 PM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gentlefist (Post 6734858)
Kkkk so Amaterasu is useless

BUT

Kabuto has to stand still while using genjutsu. So he would be an easy target to get pierced with susanoo sword or burned with katon

White rage will blind Madara's sight and deafen his hearing giving Kabuto time to perform temple of nirvana. When his sight restores he will automatically see the feathers falling and fall asleep. He wont be able to repel the jutsu if Kabuto uses sound gengutsu which prevents people from using their arms. White rage will allow him to set up the gengutsus

Gentlefist 06-10-2013 09:05 PM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
Madara can go underground to avoid the light. Or he could just absorb it cuz it's ninjutsu afterall.

Or Madara could make 20 wood clones which gives him time to break out and kabuto has to waste time findin the real one

With perfect susanoo Madara would be high up in the sky. And we have no feats on the temple genjutsu thing. So it's hard to judge it. We would be comparing hype with hype. sM enhanced genjutsu vs Madara!! 2 gennin were able to break out of it so enhanced would be powerful but I doubt strong enough to fool Madara who is legend and uses genjutsu.

Madara can also summon gedo maze don't forget!! That would do tons of damage!!

topchef 06-10-2013 09:22 PM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gentlefist (Post 6734919)
Madara can go underground to avoid the light. Or he could just absorb it cuz it's ninjutsu afterall.

Or Madara could make 20 wood clones which gives him time to break out and kabuto has to waste time findin the real one

With perfect susanoo Madara would be high up in the sky. And we have no feats on the temple genjutsu thing. So it's hard to judge it. We would be comparing hype with hype. sM enhanced genjutsu vs Madara!! 2 gennin were able to break out of it so enhanced would be powerful but I doubt strong enough to fool Madara who is legend and uses genjutsu.

Madara can also summon gedo maze don't forget!! That would do tons of damage!!

Madara cant absorb the light because the light itself isnt a ninjutsu, the dragon is. temple of nirvana makes white feathers rain from the air and if you look at it you will fall asleep. Madara will see them. sound gengutsu will prevent madara from using hand signs so there will be no wood clones. it doesnt matter whether or not madara knows about temple of nirvana because his arms will be immobile because of sound gengutsu and he wont be able to dispel it and you cant resist temple of nirvana it has to be dispelled which he wont be able to do because of sound gengutsu.

How does madara counter having his arms trapped while temple puts him to sleep and white rage blinds him giving kabuto time to set this up and kabuto can go underground as well if he needs to

Gentlefist 06-11-2013 04:23 AM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
You addressed everything BESDIES Madara going underground.
And Madara absorbed the other from the allied shinobi force from kumo
Madara can stil use susanoo when hit by white rage
The temple genjutsu is FEATLESS gennin brokeout of it without SM it's not strong

BMC1994 06-11-2013 05:20 AM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
You mean the madara with lolwoodrelease , uchihax and rinnehax?

How is that even a debate?

Kishimomo 06-11-2013 06:51 AM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BMC1994 (Post 6735177)
You mean the madara with lolwoodrelease , uchihax and rinnehax?

How is that even a debate?

^This

topchef 06-11-2013 11:08 AM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
How does he counter sound gengutsu and temple of nirvana?

Sound gengutsu prevents him from using his hands and temple of nirvana will put him to sleep. He wont be able to dispel temple of nirvana without his hands. Either debate or F off with your wanking.

BMC1994 06-11-2013 11:34 AM

Re: Madara vs Sage Kabuto
 
Sharingan users have been known to be able to escape genjutsu with their eyes.

An obvious example would be sasuke escaping tsukuyomi.

You forgot that madara can use advent of flowering trees and put kabuto to sleep too.

Frikin pts sakura broke out temple of nirvana.(or atleast gai/kakashi did) you cant tell me the guy who was rofl stomping an entire division of the ninja alliance and the 5 kages gets done in by that.

The whole sequence of creating a kimi clone, then making the bone flute, then making a tayuya clone and then having to play the actual song takes way too long for kabuto to not get murdered /put to sleep in the process by madara.


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