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Kyo Yasanagi 06-05-2013 07:47 PM

Neji vs Sasori
 
Location: final valley
Restriction: iron sand

distance 70m
who wins?

topchef 06-05-2013 08:18 PM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
Without iron sand this is possibly the most one sided fight ever in Neji's favor

Kyo Yasanagi 06-05-2013 08:19 PM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
i say neji can beat him, air palm is a reasonable threat to sasori

topchef 06-05-2013 08:21 PM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
Rotation would wreck all 100 puppets and needles will be dodged or rotation would block them. Without iron sand this isn't a fight at all.

Kyo Yasanagi 06-05-2013 08:24 PM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
then with iron sand it would b a stomp

Kananda 06-05-2013 10:52 PM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
Neji can see Sasori's core with byakugan but how will he get close? Sasori is a careful long range fighter to analyse his oppenents.

Really? "Rotation" cannot stop 100 puppets. If you still think it can then Sasori could kill him with a smoke bomb. Neji won't be able to get close to Sasori. He hasn't even got a method to get past Hiruko.

topchef 06-05-2013 11:00 PM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
All he has to do is round the puppet up in mass numbers then use rotation. Haven't you played a mmorpg before?

Hiruko's tail will easily get shattered by rotation. That thing is about as durable as wall of legos.

Sasori's needles gets blocked by rotation or simply dodged. Sasori is going to be an idiot and use his harpoon and when he gets close to Neji with his blades neji will shatter him with rotation.

Sasori can't do crap to Neji without iron sand. Smoke gas is usless unless sasori is holding the victim down with his ropes which won't work on Neji because of rotation.

Vacuum wall palm can destroy hiruko from a distance

BMC1994 06-06-2013 12:10 AM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
Rotation doesnt mean neji doesnt have to breathe posion bombs neji dies slowly.

Sakura at the time caused craters in the earth casually air palms havent displayed that kind of power.

Neji cant rotate while attacking which he will need to do at some point which is when hes very vulnerable Neji offense sucks.

Sasori has next to chakra points/vital organs making his entire fighting style rather useless.

Neji cant spam rotation 100% of the time other wise he wouldnt be well....dead.

topchef 06-06-2013 01:55 AM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BMC1994 (Post 6729667)
Rotation doesnt mean neji doesnt have to breathe posion bombs neji dies slowly.

Sakura at the time caused craters in the earth casually air palms havent displayed that kind of power.

Neji cant rotate while attacking which he will need to do at some point which is when hes very vulnerable Neji offense sucks.

Sasori has next to chakra points/vital organs making his entire fighting style rather useless.

Neji cant spam rotation 100% of the time other wise he wouldnt be well....dead.

Poison gas is useless if Sasori can't hold Neji down like he did Sakura.

Hiruko has no defensive feats so why can't air palm break it? Its just a puppet.

Kananda 06-06-2013 03:55 AM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by topchef (Post 6729589)
All he has to do is round the puppet up in mass numbers then use rotation. Haven't you played a mmorpg before?

Hiruko's tail will easily get shattered by rotation. That thing is about as durable as wall of legos.

Sasori's needles gets blocked by rotation or simply dodged. Sasori is going to be an idiot and use his harpoon and when he gets close to Neji with his blades neji will shatter him with rotation.

Sasori can't do crap to Neji without iron sand. Smoke gas is usless unless sasori is holding the victim down with his ropes which won't work on Neji because of rotation.

Vacuum wall palm can destroy hiruko from a distance

Sasori is really smart so how will he allow Neji to simply "round up" his puppets?

I'm pretty sure Sasori's needles last longer than rotation

You are saying that Neji can hold the 3rd Kazekage's weapon down when Sakura couldn't? How strong do you think rotation is? He will definitely still be poisoned if he makes physical contact without an antidote.

Vacuum wall palm is not equivalent to Chiyo's puppet string restraint PLUS Sakura's full blow that could even destroy a boulder. So yes, Hiruko does have defensive feats due to what I just said. Chiyo's discrete puppet string and a boulder crushing punch. Even Orochimaru needed that cheap tactic to break Hiruko's shell.

Sasori can spam 100% of the fight... how on Earth will Neji spam anything? He has a limit to his chakra. he can't constantly rotate. Sasori will just wait up in the air and toy with him until he runs out of breath.. if he even lasts all those poisonous blows/ Kazekage equips and iron sand. You are saying that the strongest sand village jutsu of all time is no match for a Hyuuga's kaiten? You're out of your mind. Also, puppets don't have chakra circulatory so how will he even fight back?

"Rotation" is your only comeback but you fail to explain how he can spam that when it uses so much chakra and cannot block out poison at all, nor does it have the durability to block 100 puppets. Sasori has a brain ya know. He won't just waste all of his puppets on a single kaiten.

He doesn't need to go any further than Hiruko or 3rd Kazekage.
Chiyo.. the damn strongest shinobi counter in her village to Sasori had no chance without Sakura's convenience. How can a rookie Jonin do anything when his byakugan won't even work?

[Edit] You make Sasori out to be some kind of idiot. He is several times more intelligent and cunning than Neji. Sasori won't simply "be an idiot and use his harpoon". Why would you say that? That's like saying Deidara will simply charge into Sasuke and get hit by raiton, except that Sasori is multiple times smarter and has far more battle experience.

Excluding space/time jutsu, I seriously doubt that any Jonin from Konoha has a chance to solo Sasori, let alone a rookie Jonin like Neji. Battle experience does matter. Intelligence does matter. Poison is deadly.

Kyo Yasanagi 06-06-2013 06:19 AM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
^ neji is "really" smart too, air palm once again is a threat to sasori, sasori may b a long range fighter but neji has long range moves too

Lieutenant Sasori 06-06-2013 07:21 AM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
Feat wise, Sasori took down a nation. I'd like to see Neji accomplish something like this. Even Chiyo should be able to deal with Neji, based on rank and feats.

topchef 06-06-2013 11:50 AM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kananda (Post 6729855)
Sasori is really smart so how will he allow Neji to simply "round up" his puppets?

I'm pretty sure Sasori's needles last longer than rotation

You are saying that Neji can hold the 3rd Kazekage's weapon down when Sakura couldn't? How strong do you think rotation is? He will definitely still be poisoned if he makes physical contact without an antidote.

Vacuum wall palm is not equivalent to Chiyo's puppet string restraint PLUS Sakura's full blow that could even destroy a boulder. So yes, Hiruko does have defensive feats due to what I just said. Chiyo's discrete puppet string and a boulder crushing punch. Even Orochimaru needed that cheap tactic to break Hiruko's shell.

Sasori can spam 100% of the fight... how on Earth will Neji spam anything? He has a limit to his chakra. he can't constantly rotate. Sasori will just wait up in the air and toy with him until he runs out of breath.. if he even lasts all those poisonous blows/ Kazekage equips and iron sand. You are saying that the strongest sand village jutsu of all time is no match for a Hyuuga's kaiten? You're out of your mind. Also, puppets don't have chakra circulatory so how will he even fight back?

"Rotation" is your only comeback but you fail to explain how he can spam that when it uses so much chakra and cannot block out poison at all, nor does it have the durability to block 100 puppets. Sasori has a brain ya know. He won't just waste all of his puppets on a single kaiten.

He doesn't need to go any further than Hiruko or 3rd Kazekage.
Chiyo.. the damn strongest shinobi counter in her village to Sasori had no chance without Sakura's convenience. How can a rookie Jonin do anything when his byakugan won't even work?

[Edit] You make Sasori out to be some kind of idiot. He is several times more intelligent and cunning than Neji. Sasori won't simply "be an idiot and use his harpoon". Why would you say that? That's like saying Deidara will simply charge into Sasuke and get hit by raiton, except that Sasori is multiple times smarter and has far more battle experience.

Excluding space/time jutsu, I seriously doubt that any Jonin from Konoha has a chance to solo Sasori, let alone a rookie Jonin like Neji. Battle experience does matter. Intelligence does matter. Poison is deadly.


First of all Sasori can't spam anything. He has limited needles, poison gas, and puppets.

You're best argument is that Sasori is smarter than derpy ole Neji based on hype but based on feats he's an idiot who wastes iron sand on giant legos and fell for Sakura playing possum. If his Kazekage puppet gets anywhere near Neji, rotation will shatter that puppet. Last time I checked Sasori always uses the Kazekage puppet for mele combat before he brings iron sand out.

I don't remember Neji ever having stamina issues. Pts Neji used rotation against Kidomaru and he was perfectly fine afterwards.

Again Sasori's poison needles and gas is fodder here. If Sakura and Chiyo can dodge them without a scratch then they're sure as hell not touching Neji. Sasori doesn't even have that many needles like he had in the anime. Hiruko's tail would easily get broken by a rotation. The tail got broken by a damn blade. I mean it got completely shattered by a blade.

Poison gas is only useful if Sasori is holding his victim down with ropes attached to kunai like he did Sakura but rotation would break him free. You seem to think poison gas is insta kill but its not as long as you hold your breath you're good. The radius on the poison gas was small by the way.

Sasori' s 100 puppets are all mindless punching bag. All Neji has to do is run around and let them all get near him and then use rotation. The size on rotation can be expanded by the way.

Also what the hell does chiyo's strings have to do with sakura's strength? She needed the strings to maneuver it didn't enhance her strength or anything. You do realize that Hiruko is a puppet right? It doesn't even have any defensive feats.

Once Hiruko runs out of needles and gets his tail broken by rotation then what? He has to leave to summon the Kazekage puppet.

This is how the fight would go based on how these two would fight

Hiruko starts off shooting needles and they all get dodged like sakura and chiyo did. Once he runs out of needles, which he will fast, He will try to attack Neji with his tail and the tail gets broken by rotation.

Sasori then leaves Hiruko to summon the Kazekage puppet and he will bring its blades out like he did against sakura and chiyo and when his puppet gets near Neji, he gets 1 shotted by rotation.

Sasori then summons 100 puppets and Neji will simply run around and round them up in big numbers then rotation. Once all 100 puppets are broken Sasori will desperately try to attack Neji with a poison sword and because Neji can sense the chakra in his heart he will destroy it.

This is how Sasori fights

Again Sasori can't spam anything so I don't know where you got that from.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lieutenant Sasori (Post 6729921)
Feat wise, Sasori took down a nation. I'd like to see Neji accomplish something like this. Even Chiyo should be able to deal with Neji, based on rank and feats.

That's not a feat that's hype

megabbaut 06-06-2013 12:12 PM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BMC1994 (Post 6729667)
Rotation doesnt mean neji doesnt have to breathe posion bombs neji dies slowly.

Sakura at the time caused craters in the earth casually air palms havent displayed that kind of power.

Neji cant rotate while attacking which he will need to do at some point which is when hes very vulnerable Neji offense sucks.

Sasori has next to chakra points/vital organs making his entire fighting style rather useless.

Neji cant spam rotation 100% of the time other wise he wouldnt be well....dead.

Poison would be blown away via airpalm.

Neji could still see Sasori's weak point (which is his heart) with his Byakugan and put it in cardiac arrest with Gentle Fist, kinda like he did with Hinata.

There's no need to spam rotation. He only needs to use it as many times as he needs to. Neji fought off Naruto shadow clones and Kidomaru spiders with other methods besides rotation. Puppets shouldn't be much of a problem. It's not like he's gonna use it over 5 or 10 times throughout the fight. Even then he's shown the ability to spam rotation against his clone. Chapter 265 page 3. There's evidence of rotation spam all around the area.


Not to mention, Hyugas are the worst enemy for puppet users. They could cut off the chakra threads attached to the puppets with Gentle Fist, putting any puppets down. Neji is no exception. He could disable the puppet this way before Sasori is even able to do anything with it.

Kyo Yasanagi 06-06-2013 01:09 PM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
^ true, he used 64 palms to kill 3 kisame clones that were surrounding him at once , and nejivcould also cut the thread like he did kidomaru

topchef 06-06-2013 01:54 PM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
He doesn't even have to spam rotation. All he has to do is round them all up and then use rotation.

BMC1994 06-06-2013 02:43 PM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by megabbaut (Post 6730181)
Poison would be blown away via airpalm.

Neji could still see Sasori's weak point (which is his heart) with his Byakugan and put it in cardiac arrest with Gentle Fist, kinda like he did with Hinata.

There's no need to spam rotation. He only needs to use it as many times as he needs to. Neji fought off Naruto shadow clones and Kidomaru spiders with other methods besides rotation. Puppets shouldn't be much of a problem. It's not like he's gonna use it over 5 or 10 times throughout the fight. Even then he's shown the ability to spam rotation against his clone. Chapter 265 page 3. There's evidence of rotation spam all around the area.


Not to mention, Hyugas are the worst enemy for puppet users. They could cut off the chakra threads attached to the puppets with Gentle Fist, putting any puppets down. Neji is no exception. He could disable the puppet this way before Sasori is even able to do anything with it.

While getting barraged by 100 posionous puppets / poisonous iron sand? Eithe rneji will most likely get poisoned the fact that he specializes in close combat doesnt help alot.

How exactly would he reach said heart when it covered by hiruko/iron sand/100 puppets.

Kidomarus Spiders and narutos clones werent poisonous so there was next to no risk in engaging close combat for neji which is the area hes best. Now one mistake means hes dead.

And if sakura(a med nin trained in avoiding stuff) guided by an extremely experienced puppeteer couldnt dodge each and every of sasoris attack i doubt neji would whos has shown alot less in the dodging department.

Puppets themselves wont pose a threat to anything but neji stamina, its the poison which will kill him.

Which sasori massive array of abilities most of them barely requiring any chakra from himself , and posion basically being a One hit K.O for anyone who cant take him out before they get hit sasori has a massive advantage here.

The Powerup 06-06-2013 04:28 PM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
The OP didn't give neji knowledge therefore he wouldn't know about the heart.

Bill Clinton 06-06-2013 04:40 PM

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Neji dies the puppets will not get rounded up and he can not rotate for evver. People over Rate Neji to much.

topchef 06-06-2013 04:44 PM

Re: Neji vs Sasori
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BMC1994 (Post 6730293)
While getting barraged by 100 posionous puppets / poisonous iron sand? Eithe rneji will most likely get poisoned the fact that he specializes in close combat doesnt help alot.

How exactly would he reach said heart when it covered by hiruko/iron sand/100 puppets.

Kidomarus Spiders and narutos clones werent poisonous so there was next to no risk in engaging close combat for neji which is the area hes best. Now one mistake means hes dead.

And if sakura(a med nin trained in avoiding stuff) guided by an extremely experienced puppeteer couldnt dodge each and every of sasoris attack i doubt neji would whos has shown alot less in the dodging department.

Puppets themselves wont pose a threat to anything but neji stamina, its the poison which will kill him.

Which sasori massive array of abilities most of them barely requiring any chakra from himself , and posion basically being a One hit K.O for anyone who cant take him out before they get hit sasori has a massive advantage here.

The only move that touched Sakura and chiyo was the world method and Sasori wont even get that far with the Kazekage puppet,

Its IC for Sasori to use the Kazekage puppet for mele before he brings iron sand out and rotation will wreck it when it gets near.

Iron sand wont even get to make an appearance in this fight.

100 fodder puppets are useless as long as Neji has rotation. They couldn't touch Sakura or chiyo so they're not getting passed rotation.

Neji is no noob at fighting long range fighters either.

Sasori doesn't have the advantage at all. All his needles will get dodged and all puppets will get wrecked by rotation

You guys seem to think that Sasori can spam when he has limited amount of everything.

Again the only move that touched Sakura and chiyo was world method and Sasori wont get that far because kazekage puppet will get destroyed when it tries to slice Neji.

@ThePowerUp

He doesn't need knowledge to see Sasori's heart with the byukugan


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