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PrinceofPeace 02-19-2013 06:06 PM

Killer B vs Danzo
 
Both have 24hrs prep
OOC
Danzo has knowledge
Konoha crater

erndogzetroc 02-19-2013 10:13 PM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
can he use shisui's MS? i know gyuki can break bee out of MS hypnosis as he has shown before so that could be a non-factor. danzo has mokuton abilities but he sucks at it, so he can't use that if he wants to tame 8-tails.
as for izanagi, if bee can sustain a 10 min attack on danzo using clones, swords, lightning infused objects, etc., this fight will be over. danzo is not adept with the sharingan as far as i know. maybe against fodder ninja but not against a jinchuriki in bee's class. he's not fighting sasuke who's a mentally challenged emo. with the Killer B he's up against a guy who is on par with raikage.

Shisko Shi 02-19-2013 10:14 PM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
Danzo wins with his right eye

If not he is screwed. His eye is his only win really. That or jump into Bee's mouth when he transforms and use that last jutu he killed himself with.

Maruko 02-20-2013 12:48 AM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
Danzou can use Shisui's eye?
I was always wondering, can Kotoamatsukami work on a jinchuriki?

PrinceofPeace 02-20-2013 06:03 AM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
Danzo CAN use Koto . I did not restrict it. But i doubt the result would be strong with Gyuki saying a big howdy

HELLO!

Maruko 02-20-2013 06:20 AM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
I can't say either of them. I wish I knew more about Kotoamatsukami and bijuus being able to cancel it.
I won't debate on this thread. hehe

PrinceofPeace 02-20-2013 10:17 AM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
Genjutsu is genjutsu so it can be broken out our via bijju and other chakra flow stuff.

It's not like koto is impossible to break out of

Actuallly...Genjutsu did work on the mizukage but they did not have as good as connection. For example Itachi but Naruto in genjutsu but Naruto was not pals with Kybui so he could not break out

Yet when Bee was in genjutsu with Itachi or saskue he was able to break out thanks to 8tails

Maruko 02-21-2013 07:09 AM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
But that was Tsukuyomi. Wasn't Koto supposed to be undetectable by the target? Maybe if Hachibi can figure out that Bee is under Koto, he could dispel it and enable Bee to win.

And Izanagi was just healing judging by the things we saw. Danzo used it to avoid damage, nothing else.

PrinceofPeace 02-21-2013 07:16 AM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
B can not detect it but habachi wud. They have the best bond

Maruko 02-21-2013 07:21 AM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace (Post 6515696)
B can not detect it but habachi wud. They have the best bond

That's what I'm talking about. Bee should TBB Danzo a few times and win
Bee nail'd Sasuke a few times when they fought. He almost solod Taka. And Sasuke nail'd Danzo. So...
I'm sure Bee wins.

PrinceofPeace 02-21-2013 07:45 AM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
Plus Danzo dies easily. He died by getting hit with kuani for goodness sake

Kakashi11 02-22-2013 03:43 PM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace (Post 6515722)
Plus Danzo dies easily. He died by getting hit with kuani for goodness sake

This made me laugh.
Im gonna say B on this, I don't see Danzo countering huge OCTOPUS. I'm not counting Shisui eye because we don't really know what it will do. All it takes is Bee to keep hitting him.

PrinceofPeace 02-22-2013 03:44 PM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
Glad I could make ya giggle

Vivi 02-22-2013 04:49 PM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace (Post 6515722)
Plus Danzo dies easily. He died by getting hit with kuani for goodness sake

Wasn't that Anime only?


Anyway, leaving Koto aside for now here's my view on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYprKGl4_H0


Danzos entire style lies on outlasting the enemy with 10 Izanagi, 10 minutes of Invincibility, usually he would go and charge in as a part of his strategy lies upon forcing the enemy to fight thus weakening.
We saw that with Sasuke to give an example, Danzo charges in, the enemy is forced to defend thus to defend, if they use Ninjutsu it'll be for naught due to Izanagi, after a while, the enemy would usually get worn out.However, against a Jinchuuriki that won't do a thing really due to massive Chakra resources, and Bee is a more skilled Kenjutsu and Taijutsu user anyway.

However, even if Bee uses that it'll bring nothing for reasons already stated.

Let's say Bee uses Ninjutsu, his nature is Raiton, so advantage Danzo due to Fuuton>Wind, however of course that lies upon the user but for Arguments sake let's keep it that way as there is no way of figuring out the exact skill at elements of both and the difference, though I do admit, if B's Raiton is somehow enhanced due to Hachibi it's entirely different.

At any rate, the 10 minutes are decisive as they'll just go down as against Sasuke, both are gonna wear each other down, it all depends if Danzo can or cannot inflict enough damage in that time.
Since it's OOC, Danzo could potentially make it to 11 if he sacrifices Shisuis eye.

B should have a speed advantage, though I am sure Danzo could buy some time with seals to get in a strike or two.
Not saying they will work on B as I am sure he'll break out, but at no rate is it gonna be absolutely immediately but let's say it is and he does so, his attacks will still do nothing and we saw that Danzo has some weird Teleportish ability when he "dies", unless B or Hachibi sense him, Danzo could pull a surprise attack like he did on Sasuke after his 1st "death".

It should all come down to when the 10 minutes are up as Bee should utterly wreck Danzo then as without Izanagi he is nothing, we saw what happened when Sasuke had him, he just ran.

Bee should have more than enough Chakra resources to outlast Danzo, so it just depends on Physical Stamina, then again, he's an Elite and unless he behaves like Sasuke and just charges in like a Berserker, that should be no problem.

If things get bad, he should still transform and Danzo has nothing left then at all.

Of course, this is without Kotoamatsukami, but then again, I question if it works on Bee due to the Hachibi.

At any rate, if not for Kotoamatsukami, Bee should be able to win once Izanagi is up with some difficulty but nothing major, Bijuu would crush Danzo.

Danzo has a last resort though with the Suicide Seal, which should work well though if Bee hasn't transformed.
It's a seal that works on Close Range so fitting against someone who uses Tai and Kenjutsu, afterall, if not for Obito Sasuke would have fell for it.

Advantage lies alot on Bee but Danzo could pull it off if Hachibi isn't used.
Though Kotoamatsukami seals the deal, then as I said I question if it works though I leave that up to others to decide, then again I find it a tad stupid that it's always: "Koto gg" as if people downright know Danzo uses it the very first thing.

PrinceofPeace 02-22-2013 05:36 PM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
^which is why Danzo loses. The minds are better than one in battle (especially with a genjutsu foe)

Maruko 02-23-2013 01:25 AM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
Danzo just spams Izanagi...
I'm sue B and Hachibi have enough chakra to spam attacks all the time until all Eyes are sealed.
Then it's lolrape.
Danzo got fooled by a teenage boy. I'm not saying Sasuke is weak or dumb, but Danzo has far more experience than him and didn't expect an Uchiha to use genjutsu?

Vivi 02-23-2013 04:01 AM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
More that Danzo thought Sasukes Genjutsu ability is weak.

Maruko 02-23-2013 04:11 AM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vivi (Post 6520777)
More that Danzo thought Sasukes Genjutsu ability is weak.

IMO, a person who thinks that MS genjutsu is weak should stop being a ninja and become a fisherman. :P

PrinceofPeace 02-23-2013 04:28 AM

Re: Killer B vs Danzo
 
Lol. But yeah besides his shArigNs Danzo is not that tough


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