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joon61 11-14-2012 06:38 AM

byakuya kuchiki vs toshiro
 
Anime feats only
both are in character
Location:Fake karakura town
distance:50 meters

Haku Uchiha 11-14-2012 12:31 PM

Re: byakuya kuchiki vs toshiro
 
Byakuya wins because he is faster than Toshiro and has better control over his Zanpukto even though Toshiro is a captain he still has not fully developed his power

Souret 11-14-2012 02:11 PM

Re: byakuya kuchiki vs toshiro
 
Agreed it's like when the flamboyant one (I forgot his name) said Toshiro would be better than him in another century but yeah Toshiro would lose

JLI2infinity 11-14-2012 02:33 PM

Re: byakuya kuchiki vs toshiro
 
Current Toshiro had his bankai stolen and managed to be one of the only captains who escaped with almost no injury. Byakuya got stomped and may never fight again. Of course Yamamoto's bankai did interfere with their fight.

Unlike Byakuya who fights for pride, Toshiro actually had motivation over the time skip to get stronger and that's what I think has driven him above Byakuya. We haven't seen Toshiro go all out yet but I think like Ichigo he's gotten significantly stronger in a short period of time.

Nigoyukai 11-14-2012 02:35 PM

Re: byakuya kuchiki vs toshiro
 
Pretty sure when it comes to anime feats, Byakuya takes this. He did defeat Koga.

joon61 11-14-2012 02:39 PM

Re: byakuya kuchiki vs toshiro
 
So byakuya is faster?

BoxHead 11-14-2012 02:51 PM

Re: byakuya kuchiki vs toshiro
 
Byekuya is the shunpo master. He can speedblitz Toshiro, seeing as he's actually one of the weaker captains.

JLI2infinity 11-14-2012 03:35 PM

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Yeah but current Toshiro showed much better speed.

Haku Uchiha 11-14-2012 03:44 PM

Re: byakuya kuchiki vs toshiro
 
This is Anime feats only

JLI2infinity 11-14-2012 07:23 PM

Re: byakuya kuchiki vs toshiro
 
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Originally Posted by Haku Uchiha (Post 6338245)
This is Anime feats only

That's a good point, strange to see a thread with anime feats only, but Toshiro still reached the level he's at now by the end of the anime in the Fullbring Arc so all we can really say is that this fight is inconclusive.

BMC1994 11-14-2012 10:41 PM

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Currently Goukei senbon sakura kageyoshi still stomps toshiro. What speed has he shown in the manga most of his fight was off-panel -.-

JLI2infinity 11-15-2012 11:59 AM

Re: byakuya kuchiki vs toshiro
 
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Originally Posted by BMC1994 (Post 6339095)
Currently Goukei senbon sakura kageyoshi still stomps toshiro. What speed has he shown in the manga most of his fight was off-panel -.-

Ikkaku tried to blitz one of the full bringers and almost got blindsided when Toshiro shunpo'd directly behind him in a split second to block the attack.

Then while in Yukio's Fullbring he basically defeated all the levels without a scratch and blitzed Yukio before the monsters could even touch him.

This doesn't exactly tell us how strong or fast Toshiro has gotten because the fullbringers were extremely weak but he's obviously improved.

Nigoyukai 11-15-2012 02:12 PM

Re: byakuya kuchiki vs toshiro
 
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Originally Posted by JLI2infinity (Post 6338720)
That's a good point, strange to see a thread with anime feats only, but Toshiro still reached the level he's at now by the end of the anime in the Fullbring Arc so all we can really say is that this fight is inconclusive.

When did Post-Timeskip Toshiro show any speed feats?


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Ikkaku tried to blitz one of the full bringers and almost got blindsided when Toshiro shunpo'd directly behind him in a split second to block the attack.
You mean when Ikkaku stabbed a fake, game-programmed Yukio from behind him when he wasn't looking? And the real Yukio fired some black pixles at Ikkaku at his back when he wasn't looking? And Toshiro, who had his eyes on Ikkaku's back, saw it coming, and deflected it?
How's that anything notable?

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Then while in Yukio's Fullbring he basically defeated all the levels without a scratch and blitzed Yukio before the monsters could even touch him.
I don't remember blitzing Yukio to be anything impressive.

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This doesn't exactly tell us how strong or fast Toshiro has gotten because the fullbringers were extremely weak but he's obviously improved.
How are those feats anything better than when he was fighting the 3rd Espada?
I'm sure that he improved, of course, since he stated prior to the timeskip that he was gonna work at it I believe. But the anime feats he has shown in the Fullbring Arc does not show a stronger Toshiro.

Fukai Tsumi 11-28-2012 05:07 AM

Re: byakuya kuchiki vs toshiro
 
Byakuya, speed superiority, more experience, better bankai control.


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