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puppetmasterpossession 08-07-2012 03:14 PM

Rules Proposition
 
Maik, I would quite like it if there were some rules installed for this Rp.

Some of the ones I would like would be:

Use capitalization and periods. At the very least use those.

RP posts must be at least 2 paragraphs.

Speak in third person.

shinmarubountyhunter 08-08-2012 06:14 AM

Re: Rules Proposition
 
But doesn't the word roleplay imply first person? Aha! Plot hole found. But yeah I agree with all the other suggestions.

Bacon 08-08-2012 09:22 AM

Re: Rules Proposition
 
The two paragraph thing is stupid. The other rules are pretty obvious.

shinmarubountyhunter 08-08-2012 11:50 AM

Re: Rules Proposition
 
Why not the two paragraph thing? It gives more to work with.

puppetmasterpossession 08-08-2012 12:03 PM

Re: Rules Proposition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shinmarubountyhunter (Post 6179155)
But doesn't the word roleplay imply first person? Aha! Plot hole found. But yeah I agree with all the other suggestions.

If you have ever been on an actual role play site, third person is used, simply because it makes it easier for everyone. Third person sounds better and people tend to explain more when in third person.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon (Post 6179353)
The two paragraph thing is stupid. The other rules are pretty obvious.

Two paragraphs because then you don't have people just saying "I punch the pirate." We want people to be team players and thus everyone must write about the same amount.

This is a role play, not a free verse.

Noctis Arashi 08-08-2012 12:03 PM

Re: Rules Proposition
 
I really only agree with the proper grammar and what not. The other two aren't really necessary.

And you can't really say that it makes it easier for everyone. You aren't in a position to speak for others.

shinmarubountyhunter 08-08-2012 12:08 PM

Re: Rules Proposition
 
Noctis, that came out a little hostile. And it was pmp's idea to get this running and he started it up, I think he should have a say on how he runs it, if you disagree, you should do so respectfully.

Noctis Arashi 08-08-2012 12:10 PM

Re: Rules Proposition
 
Well, seeing as I tend to RP in third person, I don't really see how. .-. And yes, although he did create it, the people who RP should also have a bit of say.

Just giving my opinion. Just like I can't tell you that you like coke more than pepsi.

loganace 08-08-2012 12:16 PM

Re: Rules Proposition
 
I am fine with making mine two paragraphs, but it really wouldn't matter. Paragraph isn't necesarily a certain size. Some people would say this was a parargraph.

I honestly like to write in first person. It makes more sense to me. The only people there to show what happens are being controlled by real people. If you made it so it is just first person the same logic would stand. instead of saying "I punch the pirate." It would be "Logan punched the pirate." It really serves no purpose. I can see if it is your fight and you dont want them to write in first person, fine. But imposing it so people write a certain way. Makes no sense. If all books are exactly the same what would be the point of reading?

But the period and capitlization is good. XD

Bacon 08-08-2012 12:21 PM

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There's a lot more to a grammatically correct sentence beyond the capitalized letter and punctuation.

The.

Quote:

Why not the two paragraph thing? It gives more to work with.
Why don't you make it three, or 6, or 10? If people feel obligated to type too much, then no one's gonna participate. Personally I don't always have 2 paragraphs worth of action to roelplay/say.

puppetmasterpossession 08-08-2012 12:33 PM

Re: Rules Proposition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noctis Arashi (Post 6179597)
I really only agree with the proper grammar and what not. The other two aren't really necessary.

And you can't really say that it makes it easier for everyone. You aren't in a position to speak for others.

Two paragraphs makes it so everyone is making an effort and no one just says, "I punched the pirate." This is an RP, we don't have one on one fights, we have stories. And stories have more to them than fighting. And they have at least 2 paragraphs to them.

Third person makes it more formal. Every single actual RP I've ever been on has been in third person. That is the way RP's go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by loganace (Post 6179625)
I am fine with making mine two paragraphs, but it really wouldn't matter. Paragraph isn't necesarily a certain size. Some people would say this was a parargraph.

I honestly like to write in first person. It makes more sense to me. The only people there to show what happens are being controlled by real people. If you made it so it is just first person the same logic would stand. instead of saying "I punch the pirate." It would be "Logan punched the pirate." It really serves no purpose. I can see if it is your fight and you dont want them to write in first person, fine. But imposing it so people write a certain way. Makes no sense. If all books are exactly the same what would be the point of reading?

But the period and capitlization is good. XD

This in a RP not a FV. That is what it comes down to. This isn't someone's life we're narrating, it is a story, and stories have more to them than 2 paragraphs once a day. I'm trying to prevent the, "I punched a pirate," in general. We want this to be a story, not a bunch of fights happening simultaneously.

Actually, 99% of books are written in third person because it is easier to read and write in. The only book that I know of written in first person is The Hunger Games. Just sayin XD.

But first person just isn't as formal. Also, all real RP's are in third person, and thus I want it like that.

puppetmasterpossession 08-08-2012 12:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon (Post 6179638)
There's a lot more to a grammatically correct sentence beyond the capitalized letter and punctuation.

The.

Why don't you make it three, or 6, or 10? If people feel obligated to type too much, then no one's gonna participate. Personally I don't always have 2 paragraphs worth of action to roelplay/say.

On your first point:
I like people to be as grammatically correct as possible, but because I know that's not gonna happen, I said the most important things, IMO.


See, I want it to be a story, not a fight. 2 paragraphs is only necessary if all you put is, "I punched the pirate." If you can fit a really good story in 3 sentences, do it. Honestly, I said 2 paragraphs because people won't write a good story otherwise.

Most RP's have you write at least 4 paragraphs per post. So, we're taking it down cause I don't want this ;);););) storm about it.

shinmarubountyhunter 08-08-2012 12:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by puppetmasterpossession (Post 6179648)
Two paragraphs makes it so everyone is making an effort and no one just says, "I punched the pirate." This is an RP, we don't have one on one fights, we have stories. And stories have more to them than fighting. And they have at least 2 paragraphs to them.

Third person makes it more formal. Every single actual RP I've ever been on has been in third person. That is the way RP's go.



This in a RP not a FV. That is what it comes down to. This isn't someone's life we're narrating, it is a story, and stories have more to them than 2 paragraphs once a day. I'm trying to prevent the, "I punched a pirate," in general. We want this to be a story, not a bunch of fights happening simultaneously.

Actually, 99% of books are written in third person because it is easier to read and write in. The only book that I know of written in first person is The Hunger Games. Just sayin XD.

But first person just isn't as formal. Also, all real RP's are in third person, and thus I want it like that.

They're usually written that way because its an omniscient figure speaking, but in memoirs and auto biography's they're always 1st person. And rp's are basically telling a story with you as the main character, I.e. a memoir. But I'll do what ever your plan is boss.

loganace 08-08-2012 01:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by puppetmasterpossession (Post 6179648)
Two paragraphs makes it so everyone is making an effort and no one just says, "I punched the pirate." This is an RP, we don't have one on one fights, we have stories. And stories have more to them than fighting. And they have at least 2 paragraphs to them.

Third person makes it more formal. Every single actual RP I've ever been on has been in third person. That is the way RP's go.



This in a RP not a FV. That is what it comes down to. This isn't someone's life we're narrating, it is a story, and stories have more to them than 2 paragraphs once a day. I'm trying to prevent the, "I punched a pirate," in general. We want this to be a story, not a bunch of fights happening simultaneously.

Actually, 99% of books are written in third person because it is easier to read and write in. The only book that I know of written in first person is The Hunger Games. Just sayin XD.

But first person just isn't as formal. Also, all real RP's are in third person, and thus I want it like that.

How many books have you read? There are HUNDREDS of books written in fist person. I can understand you point of veiw because there are THOUSANDS of books written in third person, but if an author wants to write in first second or third person they can. And comic books and manga. They are a combination of the two. Isn't one piece a manga? I honstly wouldn't rp in this if I have to write a certain way. It would suck Cause I would miss out on an interesting rp because some self proclaimed reviver tells me to write a certain way. As I can see on this thread, I am not the only one that thinks that way. You will end up killing it again if you make the rules so strict in how they write. And since many people are telling the story, you will read all the first person stories to get the whole picture. That will even birng god mod into it for fights if someone accidentally dictates what thier opponent does. If fights that I have control of are in third person, it makes no sense to me. Because really, all you are doing is stating what you did. You can even go to a third person point when discribing things and then a first person point of view when fighting. And I really dont want to have to say "Inquired logan." And "Said Logan" And things like that all over a written piece that is supposed to explain fast paced action. It works in thrid person and first person. I really dont understand why it has to be one way or another. What if someone is trying to be unique by using second person and gets shot down because it isn't in the rules. Since not many agree with all your rules, it would be anarchy and chaos because nobody wants to follow any of your rules since they dont agree with a few. When that happens, rps can die. I have stated my oppinion and I hope you can at least understand where I come from.

shinmarubountyhunter 08-08-2012 01:17 PM

Re: Rules Proposition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loganace (Post 6179709)
How many books have you read? There are HUNDREDS of books written in fist person. I can understand you point of veiw because there are THOUSANDS of books written in third person, but if an author wants to write in first second or third person they can. And comic books and manga. They are a combination of the two. Isn't one piece a manga? I honstly wouldn't rp in this if I have to write a certain way. It would suck Cause I would miss out on an interesting rp because some self proclaimed reviver tells me to write a certain way. As I can see on this thread, I am not the only one that thinks that way. You will end up killing it again if you make the rules so strict in how they write. And since many people are telling the story, you will read all the first person stories to get the whole picture. That will even birng god mod into it for fights if someone accidentally dictates what thier opponent does. If fights that I have control of are in third person, it makes no sense to me. Because really, all you are doing is stating what you did. You can even go to a third person point when discribing things and then a first person point of view when fighting. And I really dont want to have to say "Inquired logan." And "Said Logan" And things like that all over a written piece that is supposed to explain fast paced action. It works in thrid person and first person. I really dont understand why it has to be one way or another. What if someone is trying to be unique by using second person and gets shot down because it isn't in the rules. Since not many agree with all your rules, it would be anarchy and chaos because nobody wants to follow any of your rules since they dont agree with a few. When that happens, rps can die. I have stated my oppinion and I hope you can at least understand where I come from.

Writing second person is nearly impossible.

Raiden 08-08-2012 01:24 PM

Re: Rules Proposition
 
This one guesses he likes 3rd person, this one hates speaking like this, but he want everyone speaking in 3rd person for now, this one guesses he will speak retard for the rest of his rp days.

Bacon 08-08-2012 01:36 PM

Re: Rules Proposition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by puppetmasterpossession (Post 6179652)
On your first point:
I like people to be as grammatically correct as possible, but because I know that's not gonna happen, I said the most important things, IMO.


See, I want it to be a story, not a fight. 2 paragraphs is only necessary if all you put is, "I punched the pirate." If you can fit a really good story in 3 sentences, do it. Honestly, I said 2 paragraphs because people won't write a good story otherwise.

Most RP's have you write at least 4 paragraphs per post. So, we're taking it down cause I don't want this ;);););) storm about it.

:lol: You're the only one getting pissy.

Those other rp forums have worse to say than I have ever said. All I'm saying is writing more doesn't necessarily end up being better. People should be able to say more when they feel like it and only one line when they don't want to.

puppetmasterpossession 08-08-2012 01:40 PM

Re: Rules Proposition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shinmarubountyhunter (Post 6179658)
They're usually written that way because its an omniscient figure speaking, but in memoirs and auto biography's they're always 1st person. And rp's are basically telling a story with you as the main character, I.e. a memoir. But I'll do what ever your plan is boss.

Meh, we were taught different things, I guess. It's whatever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by loganace (Post 6179709)
How many books have you read? There are HUNDREDS of books written in fist person. I can understand you point of veiw because there are THOUSANDS of books written in third person, but if an author wants to write in first second or third person they can. And comic books and manga. They are a combination of the two. Isn't one piece a manga? I honstly wouldn't rp in this if I have to write a certain way. It would suck Cause I would miss out on an interesting rp because some self proclaimed reviver tells me to write a certain way. As I can see on this thread, I am not the only one that thinks that way. You will end up killing it again if you make the rules so strict in how they write. And since many people are telling the story, you will read all the first person stories to get the whole picture. That will even birng god mod into it for fights if someone accidentally dictates what thier opponent does. If fights that I have control of are in third person, it makes no sense to me. Because really, all you are doing is stating what you did. You can even go to a third person point when discribing things and then a first person point of view when fighting. And I really dont want to have to say "Inquired logan." And "Said Logan" And things like that all over a written piece that is supposed to explain fast paced action. It works in thrid person and first person. I really dont understand why it has to be one way or another. What if someone is trying to be unique by using second person and gets shot down because it isn't in the rules. Since not many agree with all your rules, it would be anarchy and chaos because nobody wants to follow any of your rules since they dont agree with a few. When that happens, rps can die. I have stated my oppinion and I hope you can at least understand where I come from.

As I have said before with the paragraph thing, this is just there to make sure people write correctly. Some people may not need this, like you, and so you can feel free to rp first person.

However, there are many people who don't know how to write well in first, and it will come out grammatically incorrect and with god-mods everywhere.

So, if you know how to RP in first person, do it. But, as seen in the two or three first person Rp posts on here, a lot of people do not. That is why this rule is here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiden (Post 6179718)
This one guesses he likes 3rd person, this one hates speaking like this, but he want everyone speaking in 3rd person for now, this one guesses he will speak retard for the rest of his rp days.

Winston walks down the street, seeing a man referring to himself as 'This One'. Winston glances at him strangely, slyly sneaking past. "I can't tell if he is trying to make a point, or if he is just being an ;););););););)." Winston thinks to himself as he walks by.


There. Rped in third person. This is first person.

I walk down the street and see a guy talking to himself. I try to sneak past him, and think to myself, "I can't tell if he is trying to make a point, or if he is just being an ;););););););)."

First person is shorter. And less interesting, IMO.

In short, it's a different way of writing, get over it. Writing in different styles makes you a better writer.

loganace 08-08-2012 01:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon (Post 6179731)
:lol: You're the only one getting pissy.

Those other rp forums have worse to say than I have ever said. All I'm saying is writing more doesn't necessarily end up being better. People should be able to say more when they feel like it and only one line when they don't want to.

that ^

loganace 08-08-2012 01:42 PM

Re: Rules Proposition
 
Glad we came to an agreement. Puppetmaster


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