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Hotarubi Hyuuga 07-23-2012 05:12 PM

Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
Ok here is the match up

PTS Neji and Hinata vs Chunin exams finals Sasuke and Obito.

Obito and Hinata are allowed to have all of their feats, from the manga and anime, Obito is allowed his video game feats.

Neji and Sasuke are only allowed Manga feats.

They only know things they have been proven to see.

Its free style sparing and the first two people to get knocked on the same team loses, they are fighting in the chunin exams finals arena.

who wins?

TheIndigoFang 07-23-2012 05:55 PM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
Uchiha win, 'cause they can see through ANY Jutsu.

Hotarubi Hyuuga 07-23-2012 06:00 PM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheIndigoFang (Post 6151788)
Uchiha win, 'cause they can see through ANY Jutsu.

Yeah, but what good is seeing through the 8 trigrams 64 palms if you've already been hit by it? Remember that the uchiha have to see the jutsu being used first before they can see through it.

TheIndigoFang 07-23-2012 06:01 PM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
Good point.

PrinceofPeace 07-23-2012 07:25 PM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
UCHIHA WIN


they have long ranged jutsu unlike the huyga and they can spam fire attacks Neji can not rotate forever

Does Saskue have curse Mark? or is this just close combat???

IF it is just fist to fist then Hyuga win

Hotarubi Hyuuga 07-23-2012 08:00 PM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace (Post 6151980)
UCHIHA WIN


they have long ranged jutsu unlike the huyga and they can spam fire attacks Neji can not rotate forever

Does Saskue have curse Mark? or is this just close combat???

IF it is just fist to fist then Hyuga win

No rotation is necessary for fire balls, just dodging kills which hyuuga's have in spades thanks to their reflexes and Sasuke can't shoot fire balls forever either so once he sees that fire balls aren't working he'll be forced to come in close and then Neji's got him. Same goes for Obito and Hinata.

BoxHead 07-23-2012 08:22 PM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
Sharingan>Byakugan

Sasuke can just predict their taijutsu and lolstomp Neji with a Chidori.

Obito is stronger than PTS Hinata. Sorry, but PTS Hinata is pretty weak >.>

PrinceofPeace 07-23-2012 08:48 PM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
heres how it goes :

They start at oppostie sides and the Uchiha use fire styel attacks to cover the other half of the field in fire

Hinata is very shy and scared and can to counter so she burns
Neji rotates but it does not last forever so evnutallly he gets burn
OR
Neji dodges but now it is 2v1 and evntually Neji is overwhlemed

The byukagan is a decendent from the sharigan so the sharigan is obviously better.
What can Hinata do??

Uchiha's are long distance fighters which is better than close ranged fighters like the Hyuga.

Even in close range Uchiha's win because the sharigan can predict their movements

Hotarubi Hyuuga 07-23-2012 09:24 PM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace (Post 6152148)
heres how it goes :

They start at oppostie sides and the Uchiha use fire styel attacks to cover the other half of the field in fire

Hinata is very shy and scared and can to counter so she burns
Neji rotates but it does not last forever so evnutallly he gets burn
OR
Neji dodges but now it is 2v1 and evntually Neji is overwhlemed

The byukagan is a decendent from the sharigan so the sharigan is obviously better.
What can Hinata do??

Uchiha's are long distance fighters which is better than close ranged fighters like the Hyuga.

Even in close range Uchiha's win because the sharigan can predict their movements

First off Hinata wouldn't just sit there and get hit, she's shy, not stupid.

This is how it would go, Uchiha shoot off fore style ninjutsu, Hyuuga's dodge it, Uchiha try to get in close, Sasuke tries Chidori, once Sasuke gets close enough Neji rotates or Hinata 8 trigrams 64 protective palms. You can't prodict something you've never seen.

Uchiha verses Hyuuga's in close combat, Hyuuga's win because of the fact that the gentle fist doesn't need a direct hit in order to do damage, only a glancing blow is needed, not to mention the fact that the fact that the gentle fist disrupts a persons chakra network and damages the internal organs.

If Neji blocks all of Obito's chakra points first then Sasuke is stuck in the ring by himself.

The sharingan is better in a lot of ways, but the sharingan cannot see 360 degree's, however the byakugan can, so Neji and Hinata could see them coming from all side unlike Sasuke and Obito who are screwed if one of the hyuuga's surprise attacks from behind.

PrinceofPeace 07-23-2012 09:37 PM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
NOOO

why would Saskue use chodori his strongest move so quickly
It is a close ranged attack and it is tooo dangerous he would keep Neji at bay with using fire

Neji will hold off Saskue and Obito would beat Hinat ( she can not do much)

The byukagn can NOT see 360 degrees either so whats your point??
The sharigan CAN predict their movements so they can dodge though

the Uchiha would not let thme creep up on them so easily ESPECIALLY when they are keeping them away with fire attacks.

What speed feats does Hinata have??? Good luck her dodging Saskue and Obito combine their fire attacks so it is too big and covers Too much distance to escape.

How does Hinata help. She can not beat Obito or Saskue

OVERALL Saskue goes CS2 and kills everyone their

Hotarubi Hyuuga 07-23-2012 09:54 PM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace (Post 6152253)
NOOO

why would Saskue use chodori his strongest move so quickly
It is a close ranged attack and it is tooo dangerous he would keep Neji at bay with using fire

Neji will hold off Saskue and Obito would beat Hinat ( she can not do much)

The byukagn can NOT see 360 degrees either so whats your point??
The sharigan CAN predict their movements so they can dodge though

the Uchiha would not let thme creep up on them so easily ESPECIALLY when they are keeping them away with fire attacks.

What speed feats does Hinata have??? Good luck her dodging Saskue and Obito combine their fire attacks so it is too big and covers Too much distance to escape.

How does Hinata help. She can not beat Obito or Saskue

OVERALL Saskue goes CS2 and kills everyone their

1 chunin exams Sasuke does not have CS2, secondly the byakugan can see 360 degree's, it's stated far too often for you even try to deny that fact.

Actually Hinata can do plenty, she may not be as good as Neji, but she pretty good at the gentle fist herself, So Obito just couldn't take her out, he'd have to work for it and if he forced to try and fight her at close combat, he more than likely lose, thanks to the gentle fist.

Shooting off fire balls would do them no good if the Hyuuga's just keep dodging them, do you really think their going to risk wasting all of their chakra on fire balls that don't hit?

Sasuke would use Chidori simply because of the fact that the fire balls are not working. Sasuke doesn't know about the gentle fist, so how would he know to keep his distance from Neji?

Fire balls can be dodged, rotationed or 8 trigrams 64 protective palms.

Chidori can be rotated, 8 trigrams 64 protective palms.

If Neji 8 trigrams 64 palms either of them then other one is without a shadow of doubt screwed.

Vatanui AKA Pride 07-24-2012 12:57 AM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotarubi Hyuuga (Post 6152280)
1 chunin exams Sasuke does not have CS2, secondly the byakugan can see 360 degree's, it's stated far too often for you even try to deny that fact.

Actually Hinata can do plenty, she may not be as good as Neji, but she pretty good at the gentle fist herself, So Obito just couldn't take her out, he'd have to work for it and if he forced to try and fight her at close combat, he more than likely lose, thanks to the gentle fist.

Shooting off fire balls would do them no good if the Hyuuga's just keep dodging them, do you really think their going to risk wasting all of their chakra on fire balls that don't hit?

Sasuke would use Chidori simply because of the fact that the fire balls are not working. Sasuke doesn't know about the gentle fist, so how would he know to keep his distance from Neji?

Fire balls can be dodged, rotationed or 8 trigrams 64 protective palms.

Chidori can be rotated, 8 trigrams 64 protective palms.

If Neji 8 trigrams 64 palms either of them then other one is without a shadow of doubt screwed.

Sasuke may not have CS2, but lest you forget, CS1 can more than power him up significantly.

Actually, Byakugan users cannot see all three hundred and sixty degrees around them. Despite what Naruto had originally assumed, the Byakugan has a narrow blind spot at the back of the user's temple, a weakness that was later revealed and exploited in Neji's battle against Kidomaru.

You do realize that the Sharingan can predict attacks, correct?

Consider this: The Hyuuga Clan are close-range fighters, relying on precise strikes to slowly incapacitate the weak points of their opponents. Doesn't do them much good then when they can be kept at a distance, slowly worn away by fatigue and exhaustion by giant fireballs?
Of course, you can say that Team Hyuuga simply could just close the distance between them and Team Uchiha while dodging the fireballs, consider the sheer size and magnitude of those fireballs. When Sasuke first used one against Kakashi, the flames easily dwarfed over his own body. (Ch. 7, pg. 11)

How about no. I highly doubt that Neji has anything in his arsenal able to stop Chidori, much less rival it in raw power and speed.

Yes, and if Sasuke's Chidori touches either of the Hyuugas, then they'd literally be charged and burnt to a crisp.

Godaime Kazekage 07-24-2012 06:25 AM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
Looks like Hotarubi needs some support. After seeing the title of thread I laughed to myself and thought "Uchiha roflstomp", but after actually reading the conditions I'm going for the Hyuuga. Obito is utterly featless, all he can do is fireball jutsu, he died minutes after awakening Sharingan so he's not going to be able to use it to effectively predict movements and counter them, especially against Taijutsu of Hyuuga calibur (he's explicitly shown to NOT be a genius who things come naturally to). Also, I think everyone is overestimating Sasuke's ability to read moves-he only has two tomoe at the time of the Chunin Exams. Neji and Hinata can block fireballs with Rotation and 64 Palms Guard, or just dodge them. Either one of them could then take out Obito quickly, after that it's 2 on 1 against Sasuke.

@boxhead: You think Obito is stronger than PTS Hinata with anime feats? hahaha no.

@ Vatanui: The scenario with the Hyuugas being exhausted by dodging fireballs is ridiculous, the Uchiha would run out gas way before the Hyuuga. Which takes more energy-using a fireball jutsu or jumping to the side? Also, the Hyuuga don't need to rely on precise strikes-yes, it's a surefire win if they can hit the chakra points, but they can also just go for general organ damage.

Naruto the Sage of Life 07-24-2012 07:10 AM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
I would give this match to the Uchiha's simply because of Orochimaru's curse seal.
To start, I would like to mention Sasuke's speed. In preparation for his match Sasuke gained incredible speed, which would allow him to blitz Hinata the moment the match starts. Even if thats not the case, rotation is the only thing that could potentially block chidori, however I would imagine that rotation would be to risky in the battle because if fireball+rotation=hurricane then Neji is in for trouble. If a fire justu hit rotation I am not to sure that the rotation would simply cancel out a fire justu, if anything it would expand the fire justu. Furthermore, even if Sasuke was hit with a 8 triagram 64 palms, he still has the curse seal as a back up. Similarly, to how Naruto used Kyuubi Chakra in his battle against Neji. So basically, I imagine the battle going like so:
Sasuke speed blitzes Hinata, and then Neji is left fighting both Sasuke and Obito. Obito is only useful in order for basic fireball justu and throwing weapons. However, Sasuke can possibly counter rotation with fireball justu, and considering Sasuke's speed he may be able to chidori Neji anyway. Nevertheless, even if Sasuke gets hit with gentle fist then he would use the Curse Seal as back up. While it would be a extremly close fight which could go either way I would give it to team Uchiha.

PrinceofPeace 07-24-2012 07:22 AM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING... I am sorry but this is the THIRD time you have not gotten your facts right the byukugan can ALMOST see 360 degrees (QUOTE STRIGHT FROM NARUTOPEDIA:The first ability of the Byakugan gives the user a near 360

The Uchiha's are not going to go close up it is too dangerous. Please answer this question: HOW DO THE HYUGA'S GET PAST LONG RANGED FIRE ATTACKS?? They can spam it and the Hyuga's will not be able to dodge forever. Togther they can take out at least one and cover half of the field in flames and they can not rotate forever.

How can they dodge when most of the field is in flames AND combing 2 fireballs to take out one of them is GENUIS. how can they dodge 2??? Its to big and fast and covers a WIDE area.

PrinceofPeace 07-24-2012 07:25 AM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
Ummm Fire attacks WOULD WORK. and he still would not use it right away he would use Dragon Fire or fire a cursemark chdori which is strong eonugh to break thorugh a roation.




And Hinata does not even really fight well unless Naruto is there. When has she ever fought well without him cheering her on or him being near... NEVER


My main point is they can not get past longranged attacks like Fireball. ESPECIALLY if the Uchiha combine their fire attacks.

Hotarubi Hyuuga 07-24-2012 09:40 AM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
OK everyone first off I know about the blind spot and its a small one at that, which Neji no longer has to worry about. Sasuke and Obito don't know about the blind spot so how could they take advantage of it?

The Hyuuga's can still see them coming from all sides so they have no worries of a sneak attack unlike the Uchiha who can't see anything that isn't in front of them and barely see people coming from the sides.

The sharingan can predict movements, but good does it do them?

They don't know about the gentle fist, so even if the hyuuga's didn't get a direct hit the uchiha's would still take a lot of damage.

Fire balls can easily be dodged, in fact the only fire jutsu of Sasuke's I'v ever seen hit anyone is the dragon flame jutsu which wouldn't work thanks to rotation or the 8 trigrams 64 protective palms.

once the uchiha's figure out that their long range attacks aren't working then they'll have to go in close and there is no possible way that either obito or Sasuke could out match the hyuuga's in close combat.


CS1 isn't much help at this point, remember that this is chunin exams finals Sasuke we are talking about, not to mention the fact that Neji has already seen it in the forest of death. Cs1 for the most part my only give a few seconds power boost then all it would do is cause Sasuke pain and or paralyze him.

All the predicting in the world won't help you if you don't know what you are dealing with, Neji only rotates when it is too late for his opponents to stop, Hinata is just about the same way with her 8 trigrams 64 protective palms, so the uchiha's would get hit and it's not like the Uchiha's would never come in close because one they know nothing about the hyuuga's so they wouldn't know to keep their distance, secondly if their long range attacks aren't working they aren't going to waste all of their chakra on attacks that don't work and lastly Sasuke is too cocky and he will always try to come in close to try and prove that he can "own" someone in combat.

The Bottom line is that Hinata is more than capable of defending herself or disrupting a persons chakra flow and Neji and can block both of their chakra points, so once they have no more chakra where is their sharingan then? What long range jutsu's do they have?

Naruko>Naruto(Inotfemale) 07-24-2012 09:43 AM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
they both will die

megabbaut 07-24-2012 09:56 AM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace (Post 6151980)
UCHIHA WIN


they have long ranged jutsu unlike the huyga and they can spam fire attacks Neji can not rotate forever

Does Saskue have curse Mark? or is this just close combat???

IF it is just fist to fist then Hyuga win

I like how people always use the argument "Neji cannot rotate forever" when they think rotation can't block something.

Long ranged jutsu is dodged. Even PTS Naruto was able to dodge fireballs from far away, and spamming them would only waste chakra. Sasuke does have the Curse Mark, but this is Chunin Exam Finals Sasuke and at this time the curse mark was only a hinderance and not a power up.

Uchiha Sora 07-24-2012 10:40 AM

Re: Family feud Uchiha vs Hyuuga
 
Hyuuga win. Chuunin Sasuke is basically Lee. Who Neji supossedly stomps. Obito can't do much better than Sasuke.

If this was end of part 1 Sasuke it'd be different though.

And iirc Hinata''s Palms Guard was pretty dangerous


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