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Skrall 02-15-2012 06:44 AM

One Piece 657
 
Discuss!

Note: OP will be on a break next week, so don'y expect chapter 658 until the week afterwards.

Shooting Star 02-15-2012 06:58 AM

Re: One Piece 657
 
As expected, this chapter left more questions than answers. These last three chapters proved that formulating theories about the series is nearly impossible.

A torso-less man;
a dragon;
at least one samurai from Wano Country;
a Shichibukai;
four men dressed in suits;
a guy who goes by the name of "M" (Master);
a winged creature/DF fruit user that resembles an angel;
a head of a man from Wano country;
giant children.

Basing on this information, I challange anyone to make a theory.

tsuki 02-15-2012 08:42 AM

Re: One Piece 657
 
Angels! A head! Giant Children! What the heck is going on on this island?

Vivi 02-15-2012 11:31 AM

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According to the Islam Folklore Angels are born out of fire, and we DO see this birdie among Flames.

Could also be a Harpy as it fits to Homer's Odyssey of Kids in a castle and harpies kidnapping a shipcrew.

Kakashi Hatake_Yamato 02-15-2012 12:01 PM

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ahhaha~ luffy turned into a centuar~! nice...
screwing with that samurais face..pfft....
oh. chopper still has that cross thingy from thriller bark

interesting chapter......

BoxHead 02-15-2012 02:48 PM

Re: One Piece 657
 
Trafalgar Law... Calling it.

NagatoGod_of_Pain 02-15-2012 03:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boxhead327 (Post 5899083)
Trafalgar Law... Calling it.

As the Samurai's son? That'd be rather interesting, especially since the Samurai came to Punk Hazard to save his son. I was thinking more along the lines of the hazmat suits abducting children for whatever reason, and the Samurai's happened to be a victim.

Anyway, it seems like Oda's intentionally making some parallel between Punk Hazard and Aokiji/Akainu. There has to be more than just them fighting on the island, right?

It seems likely that the Samurai will be the final Straw Hat. Cheers to that, I like him.

Devroux 02-15-2012 05:04 PM

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Interesting stuff. I love how it's foreshadowed that they're all going to meet in the ice part of the island. I want to know who they were captured by though. And it looks like the legs were part of that samurai's head, so it's not a guy with a DF of his own.

Interesting stuff.

BoxHead 02-15-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NagatoGod_of_Pain (Post 5899142)
As the Samurai's son? That'd be rather interesting, especially since the Samurai came to Punk Hazard to save his son. I was thinking more along the lines of the hazmat suits abducting children for whatever reason, and the Samurai's happened to be a victim.

Anyway, it seems like Oda's intentionally making some parallel between Punk Hazard and Aokiji/Akainu. There has to be more than just them fighting on the island, right?

It seems likely that the Samurai will be the final Straw Hat. Cheers to that, I like him.

......No. Law rearranged the samurai's body.

Jinbe is probably the final SH, after Big Mom's defeat.

Leafy 02-15-2012 05:53 PM

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Yeah I think it was Law, I mean, who else could it be?

NagatoGod_of_Pain 02-15-2012 07:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boxhead327 (Post 5899380)
......No. Law rearranged the samurai's body.

Jinbe is probably the final SH, after Big Mom's defeat.

Lol, oh. Thought you were referring to the facial features. Hehe.

Nah, Jinbe's too big of a character to permanently join the Straw Hats. The Samurai's introduction is following Oda's formula of adding new crew members.

Nagahana 02-15-2012 07:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vivi (Post 5898764)
According to the Islam Folklore Angels are born out of fire, and we DO see this birdie among Flames.

Could also be a Harpy as it fits to Homer's Odyssey of Kids in a castle and harpies kidnapping a shipcrew.

Vivi you're like a living Encyclopedia....

And about the chapter...I think it was OK, many more questions is a good thing, Oda needs to keep things fresh right

And the next crew member needs to be a girl, I mean tere aretoo many men already.....but then again what position is there left for anyone join?

Uchiha Sora 02-15-2012 08:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vivi (Post 5898764)
According to the Islam Folklore Angels are born out of fire, and we DO see this birdie among Flames.

Could also be a Harpy as it fits to Homer's Odyssey of Kids in a castle and harpies kidnapping a shipcrew.

Damnit, Vivi. Stop making everyone feel inferior with your knowledge. `~(

I highly doubt Oda would purposely try to parallel the Odyssey, though. Doesn't really suit his style.

BoxHead 02-16-2012 02:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NagatoGod_of_Pain (Post 5899735)
Lol, oh. Thought you were referring to the facial features. Hehe.

Nah, Jinbe's too big of a character to permanently join the Straw Hats. The Samurai's introduction is following Oda's formula of adding new crew members.

How? He even said himself that he would join.

We need someone close to Luffy's level.

NagatoGod_of_Pain 02-16-2012 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boxhead327 (Post 5901489)
How? He even said himself that he would join.

We need someone close to Luffy's level.

To be exact, he said he has his own business to take care of, and once he's done, he'll listen to another invitation if he meets Luffy again.

Not really. There's an emphasis of making Luffy the strongest person in his crew. He's the Captain. He should have no equal; he makes all the decisions. Having another member that's relatively equal diminishes Luffy's exclusivity.

The Samurai would fit perfectly with the Straw Hats: a bizarre character that would be powerful in his own right, but is better suited as a piece of the puzzle. Oda set this up. Every crew member has a goal. The Samurai's can easily be to find his son. Jinbe wouldn't really have a goal when/if he's done with his business.

BoxHead 02-16-2012 08:37 PM

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Jinbe is weaker than Luffy, but still at a safe range. Luffy is ungodly stronger than Zoro and Sanji. They're not really the monster trio anymore, even though they are strong. Luffy can lolstomp most people, being Shichibukai level. But whatever, what would a 3rd Swordsman be for?

Devroux 02-16-2012 10:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boxhead327 (Post 5901948)
Jinbe is weaker than Luffy, but still at a safe range. Luffy is ungodly stronger than Zoro and Sanji. They're not really the monster trio anymore, even though they are strong. Luffy can lolstomp most people, being Shichibukai level. But whatever, what would a 3rd Swordsman be for?

I don't know.... Zoro was just trained by Mihawk, the #1 swordsman in the entire world, so saying that Luffy could "lolstomp" most people at the Shichibukai level is kind of a weak statement. I mean, Sanji is probably weaker than both of them, but he was also trained on an island run by one of Dragon's closest friends and accomplices. We really haven't gauged anyone's timeskip strength yet.

Plus, in every manga it's shown that the main characters fight villains in increasing intervals of power. So not all Shichibukai are the same strength, which means that even though Luffy could "lolstomp" the former ones as he is now, it doesn't mean he can do the same with the ones coming up. And there's also that little tidbit where he can't do anything about sharp things, unlike blunt attacks.

The Fishman Island arc may have been intended to reintroduce the characters and show a bit of their increased strength, but aside from Luffy's Haoshoku haki, I doubt we've seen the real extent of what they're capable of. They're in the New World now, so there are far stronger opponents ahead. That was proven with the dragon, which was just an animal on the first island they've reached.

As for the last question, a third swordsman wouldn't be really impressive unless there's some kind of twist to it. Brook was a failure as a swordsman until he came back with his little ice thing going on. I love the twists.

Vatanui AKA Pride 02-16-2012 11:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boxhead327 (Post 5901948)
Jinbe is weaker than Luffy, but still at a safe range. Luffy is ungodly stronger than Zoro and Sanji. They're not really the monster trio anymore, even though they are strong. Luffy can lolstomp most people, being Shichibukai level. But whatever, what would a 3rd Swordsman be for?

The Monster Trio is still the Monster Trio.

If I recall, Luffy went all-out during the Fishmen Arc. Zoro didn't, and casually took down his opponents while complaining. To some degree, Sanji's in the middle and had shown speed feats for the most part.

And Luffy likely still loses to Crocodile. However, he is probably stronger than land Jinbei.

NagatoGod_of_Pain 02-17-2012 05:01 PM

Re: One Piece 657
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boxhead327 (Post 5901948)
Jinbe is weaker than Luffy, but still at a safe range. Luffy is ungodly stronger than Zoro and Sanji. They're not really the monster trio anymore, even though they are strong. Luffy can lolstomp most people, being Shichibukai level. But whatever, what would a 3rd Swordsman be for?

Brook is essentially a genjutsu user along with some random elemental sword attacks. He's not a "hardcore" swordsman like Zoro, Mihawk, etc.

We haven't even seen this Samurai's abilities. Oda's not stupid enough to introduce a character so closely to one that's as established as Zoro. Every character in this series has their own uniqueness and I'm sure it will apply to the Samurai.

I just don't see Jinbe being the final crew member. How anti-climatic in a series full of the opposite. This bizarre Samurai fits what a Straw Hat is and stands for much better than Jinbe in the 1 or 2 chapters he's been in already.

BoxHead 02-17-2012 06:39 PM

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I think you interpreted me wrong. I meant that Luffy is at Shichibukai level, which allows him to lolstomp most people.


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