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Wild Dark 01-17-2012 12:06 AM

Nagato vs Madara
 
Location: The final Valley (after 30 minutes a earthquake starts to occur every 40 minutes)

Madara at first can only use ems, this mean all the abilities that the sharinagan can use is available even ones he's not shown to use in the manga. Ex. Amaturatsu, except for shusi's abilities and tobi's, kakashi (sorry if they are spelled wrong.)

If he can make it past a one hour period he can activate his rinnigan and can use all of it's ablities plus wood element. (base wood element off what you've seen him do and what yamato and the 1st hokage can do)

Nagato has use of all pain bodys but if destroyed their remaining chakra is transferred back to him along with each bodies strength, stamina, endurance, speed and jutsu. If all bodies are beaten then nagatos body completely heals and restores his youth in a sense and his legs are completely healed from the injuries of Hanzo.

Nagato has use of summons but Madara does not.

Both Shira Tensei is reduced to just 3 second recharge but only nagato can use planetary devistation and the Gedo mezo is unusable and madara can't have any tailed beast. Also neither can snatch the soul from the other.

The match has no time limit and both people are alive, not edo tensei.

Jikūkan 01-17-2012 04:08 AM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
By hype, Madara stomp~

Details, Madara takes with moderate difficulty. Given that he more than likely can't finish the job without rinnegan. Unless he manages a tsukuyomi victory

PuffPuffPanda 01-17-2012 09:07 AM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
EMS Madara is speculative, but we might get a peek into those abilities with Sasuke's first fight. Even if we assume Madara has access to Itachi's and Sasuke's MS powers, there's still no way to tell how proficient he is at their usage, etc.

A current and unrestricted Madara would rape. He's quite literally a better Nagato with Rinnegan, EMS, and Mokuton.

paradigm1977 01-17-2012 05:30 PM

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I actually think Nagato before he naturally died was stronger than Madara when he died.

ET Madara would win because of pure speed vs. initial ET Nagato who had to be carried.

But ET Nagato after the recharge that brought color back to his hair and allowed him to walk normal, I think he beats ET Madara.

Sounds craxy I know. But I have that much respect for the Rinnegan vs. EMS and Speed and rep. I know, Madara has one too. But Madara got his right before he died. He is inexperienced with it. Nagato has had it his whole ninja life and has never been defeated. Even vs. Naruto.

I compare Nagato rinnegan to Itachi's genjutsu and Madara's rinnegan to Sasuke's genjutsu.

And would no handicap on lasergun sholder cannon Nagato, I don't think Madara's EMS, rep and speed bring his rinnegan up to Nagato.

PuffPuffPanda 01-17-2012 06:08 PM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
Fair points, but consider that Kabuto considered Madara his trump card. Kabuto didn't value Nagato as he did for a true ace.

Towerworld 01-17-2012 08:16 PM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Giants620 (Post 5836632)
What can Nagato do to stop the Meteor??

CST would be the only option.

Towerworld 01-17-2012 08:51 PM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Giants620 (Post 5836682)
and them Madara uses Tsukyomi to kill him. GG

Yes he would probably beat pain via genjutsu i simply responded about the meteor being destroyed nothing about the battle itself.

Zatamizu Yougan 01-19-2012 05:40 AM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Giants620 (Post 5837343)
Its not Pain but Nagato.

yes, and he has all 6 paths

roullex uchiha 01-19-2012 01:13 PM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
I would say Madara because Nagato doesn't have the six paths with him.

Wild Dark 01-19-2012 08:24 PM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
everyone please remember at the beginning of the fight nagato does have the six bodies, only when they are all beaten does he come out his fully powered up restored self.

Uzumaki Mako 01-20-2012 02:28 AM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
Nagato

Dr Salt 01-20-2012 10:54 AM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
It's a good match-up. Nagato has shown to have a wider scope of Jutsu. He could spam summons, has projectile missiles, his own Preta that could likely render Mokuton useless, and flight. Not to mention more chakra.

Madara on the other hand has basically the same abilities, but what it comes down to is a defense that Nagato doesn't have. Madara has the most advanced Susanoo we've seen so far, which would likely allow him to tank a massive ST. I don't think Nagato could do the same. Really Nagato has nothing that would break through Susanoo, except CT, but Madara could counter that with his own and basically cancel it out.

Wooster 01-20-2012 11:03 AM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
The interesting thing is could Nagato's ST reject a meteor(or two)? One assume there is some limit to his power.

Dr Salt 01-20-2012 11:11 AM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
Doubtful. But for the sake of argument, let's say he can use a Massive ST and break one of the meteors, Madara can just add a second to it. And Nagato can't do two back to back, it drains him too much to do one.

Wooster 01-20-2012 11:23 AM

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Then Madara wins.

Wild Dark 01-20-2012 10:18 PM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
Everyone remember that Madara only used the meteor because he was a edo tensei, in this fight neither of them are edo tensei. He used the meteor in the manga but was still hit by it but since he was a edo tensei it didn't matter so I can't see him using it in the fight knowing it may kill him too.

roullex uchiha 01-21-2012 11:16 AM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
Alright then madara.

Dr Salt 01-21-2012 11:49 AM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wild Dark (Post 5842375)
Everyone remember that Madara only used the meteor because he was a edo tensei, in this fight neither of them are edo tensei. He used the meteor in the manga but was still hit by it but since he was a edo tensei it didn't matter so I can't see him using it in the fight knowing it may kill him too.

Izanagi says Hi.

BoxHead 01-21-2012 11:59 AM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
Nagato= Rinnegan
Madara= Rinnegan + Sharingan
(Rinnegan + Sharingan) - Rinnegan= Sharingan.

Basically, the reason that he has EMS makes him stronger, by having the extra dojutsu.

Wild Dark 01-21-2012 05:03 PM

Re: Nagato vs Madara
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Salt (Post 5843182)
Izanagi says Hi.

true but he can only use it twice so say for the sake of argument nagato uses shira tensei to survive one meteor and the laser from the asura path to possibly split the other in half and madara used that izanagi twice because he thought it would hit both times.


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