oh I see my bad. But still they were already hurt they did not want to talk anymore. They no longer trusted the senju now. THey especially feel gulity since Madara told them this would happen. They staged a coup cuz that is what Madara would want. It would be the only way to honor him.
SO it's equal in blame. The bijju did not talk to Hashirama that is just as bad as Hashirama not talking to them. hashirama may have not known they could talk or be reason with. Okay even though we dont know much about the summonings I guess we can assume that they talked to one another....but the bijju nor people talked to one another. SO both Hashirama and the bijju are the blame. But how would Hashirama know that they could be talked or reasoned with??Hashirama had no animals summonings. Afterall there were 9 beast. That's 9 opportunities for the bijju to say something
The bijju and acutal people are totally different. I already explained it
I never said that they needed to apologize so please do not try to put words in my mouth. I said that they should have made it public for everyone to know that they were being treated unfairly and talk to Tobirama about it. I don't know what the Bijuu didn't talk to Hashirama I didn't write the manga and the boss summons where not always summons, before they made contracts they were animals that somehow learned the way of the ninja, so before they were in contracts with anyone, why did people decided to go and talk to them and not the tailed beast, the tailed beast weren't bothering anyone and for you to say that it wasn't OK for Tobirama to do what he did to the Uchiha who had done nothing wring and then turn around say that it was Ok for Hashirama to do what he did to the tailed beast who had also done nothing wrong is bias and a double standard.
The Uchiha did everythin right. Why should they have to apologize. Even if they did nothing would change. The point is Madara was right and the senju betrayed them. It was not right to stay with the senju after Madara was right. It's an insult to the Uchiha. COnronting and talking to Tobirama would not make a difference the damge was done.
What I am asking is that why did the bijju not talk to Hashirama before, during, or after Hashirama tamed them.
Most summonings are kind and worked with their summoners. we do not have enough info about random summonings just like we dont about the bijju being tamed. The summonings are no where as near dangerous or powerful as bijju and they can only be controled by one person.
Bijju and the uchiah are totally different
-put faith in the senju and were warned by thier leader then were betrayed
-were tamed out of no where
So let get this straight, you think that since the beginning of time the boss summons were just all around cool with the ninja from the very beginning ever before they met them? No, you know that isn't even possibly by fantasy standards. You Keep saying what if, but we know, there was no one else so nothing would have suddenly changed because Hashirama didn't capture them. Also as it was said before those items the sand and cloud had, did them very little good since the Bijuu kept breaking out and they had to use Jinchuuiki to even attempt control over them. How can you say that the Bjiuu should have said something and then say the Uchiha shouldn't have had to say anything? If they knew it was unfair, they should have made it public instead of making their first resort to sneak around a plot a bloody rebellion.
So I assume since you did not counter what I said you agree. It is Hashirama's bad for not talking to them but it is also the tailed beast for not saying anything.
The Uchiah were outraged I suppose. They did so much for the village and did no wrong yet the leaf (or tobirama ) did not trust him. Yes they could have talked to Tobirama but the thing is.....MADARA's PREDICITON CAME TRUE!!!!!! Madara knew that the senju would not treat them right and betray and belittle them. Why should the Uchiha be the bigger person 24/7? Afterall they just ditched their leader putting faith in the senju yet ditching their leader only to realize that they sided with the wrong person. THeir leader presumed dead their was no going back. They had enough. Afterall Tobirama was the head honcho he is supposed to do all right and be the one to talk. The Uchiah could no longer trust the senju (or the leaf) which is what started the Madara sympitzers and the rebellion
In the era sure from what we know ONLY Madara and hashirama could control them. But let's say that Hashirama left them alone then as time passed others would find a way to control them.
-Sand village would seal away the shakuku
-Kumo has S06P tools to seal the beast or use chains
-Random ninja like the G&S bros would provoke them and get eaten and then gain bijju powers
-Oro would come up with an experiment to tame them
-It's possible orgainze evil groups would steal Hashirama cells or Uchiha eyes and try to tame them
Someone sooner or later would try and get them. With enogh determination and power
You are ASSUMING that the boss summonings were not always on their side. Anyway the summonings are not as powerful and can make contracts with. It is weird to compare them due to lack of knowledge
You can keep saying that all you want, but we both know that no one else could control Bijuu other than him and Madara. I'm pretty sure that the boss summons were not always on their side, but that didn't stop them seeing if they could be reasoned with either and while you asking why didn't the tailed beast say, hey what are you doing, please stop and all that then the same could be said for the Uchiha, why didn't they just walk up to Tobirama and say, hey there's no need for you to watch us like this and we think it's unfair so why don't we come to a compromise. Huh, why didn't they do that? You tell me one person who was able to control Bijuu that were not Jinchuuriki other than Hashirama and Madara and don't even think about saying Obit because if Hashirama hadn't done what he did, Obito wouldn't even be an issue and SO6P is out because that was before Hashirama and Tobirama's time.
You act like Hashirama was the only person in the entire universe to control the tailed beast. But someone either in his generation or the next would have got to them sooner or later. Plus why did the other bijju not say "hey what are you doing, please stop and lets talk". Hashirama may have not even knew they could be reason with.
But as we've seen no one other than Hashirama and a very strong Uchiha could control them so he had nothing to worry about. The Wars his choice caused is the reason all of this stuff is happening right now, so yes he should have left them alone, would Naruto be an interesting show to watch, probably not, but if we want to look at it realistically he could have just talked to the other villages and made peace with them instead of giving them weapons while knowing full well that they still hated each other and him, that's like if you and I hated each other and we were fighting then suddenly I pull out a gun and give it you and say "OK let's be friends" peace was a nice idea, but how he went abbot it was stupid.
Why blame both Madara and hashirama. Madara was the one who started controlling bijju. So blame Madara for people getting the idea from him.
The boss summonings are totally different. They need contracts and worked with shinobi for ages.Plus boss sumonings have not been used or under genjutsu to attack villages. The owner of the boss has complete control over the boss summoingns. If they went rouge they would just reverse summon it.
So your saying Hashirama leaving them alone is best? So what about the other ninja that would eventually try to capture them? I already admitted a mistake of Hashirama but taming the bijju is just doing to before others used it against him.
Hiruzen and Minato are also bad for allowing it to continue. But TObirama started it