What did Minato mean?

[EvL j3st3r]

"It's like you're not even the 8 tails jinchuuriki, but a true ninja....who possesses something powerfull"

"What does your brother hold most important? You'd better find out what it is before he becomes neither a Jinchuuriki nor a person."

- Minato

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

I can't believe there isn't already a dozen crackpot theories posted about these statements.:lol:.

Ok. So it's nothing to do with what the previous 8 tails jinchuuriki said about filling the hole in your heart bc that was in reference to not being able to control the beast. By the point Minato made these statements, Bee had already gained control. And Minato visually saw that control. So it can't be related to that.

ANALYSIS

1. It seems that seeing Bee's control over the bijuu is what spurred him to make the above statements. So could that mean that there is a possible risk or side effect to bijuu control that the reader doesn't know about yet? If so, this would mean that Naruto faces yet another danger.

2. When Minato mentions about Bee possessing something powerfull.....he's not referring to the Bijuu. He said, "It's like you're not even the eight tails jinchuuriki". He was mysterious about it and even Raikage's dialogue doesn't point towards the eight tails. It's something else, some different power or destiny or whatever.

Someone said they think Minato meant that KB would just become a weapon......this is possible, but not very climatic. I think it's something bigger. Maybe some kind of animal insanity or personality merging with the bijuu....I dunno. I'm at a loss on this one. I can't find a way to put it all together and come up with a theory I feel could be valid.

TEAM THEORY

Let's get the best theorist on this one and come up with something outside the box.....I bet it'll end up being pretty out there. But please do use logic and don't just throw in stupid stuff just to make it outlandish. Imaginative but plausible by the laws of Narutoverse. A possibly valid theory that's outside the norm. That's what we're looking for.

[zerosameri]

I though it was simple, in plain text like everything else O_o (I hate this smiley but is literally describes my emotion right now when I read that :lol:)

"It's like you're not even the 8 tails jinchuuriki, but a true ninja....who possesses something powerfull"Basically he is saying, B mastered it so well, it just seems he hella strong.

"What does your brother hold most important? You'd better find out what it is before he becomes neither a Jinchuuriki nor a person."He's basically telling A

"Open your damn eyes and realize this before he's dead"

[panda-sensei]

i think minato is refering to bee's friendship with a and bee's personality

[HyuugaSenju]

the first part Minato tells Bee that he was able to master 8 tails
2nd part Minato tells A to realize that Bee has a lot of power and they could use it for something and that Bee important but A gotta realize that before Bee is dead

which is basically what zerosameri said :P

[Kreegah!!!]

"It's like you're not even the 8 tails jinchuuriki, but a true ninja....who possesses something powerfull"

"What does your brother hold most important? You'd better find out what it is before he becomes neither a Jinchuuriki nor a person."

- Minato

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

I can't believe there isn't already a dozen crackpot theories posted about these statements.:lol:.

Ok. So it's nothing to do with what the previous 8 tails jinchuuriki said about filling the hole in your heart bc that was in reference to not being able to control the beast. By the point Minato made these statements, Bee had already gained control. And Minato visually saw that control. So it can't be related to that.

ANALYSIS

1. It seems that seeing Bee's control over the bijuu is what spurred him to make the above statements. So could that mean that there is a possible risk or side effect to bijuu control that the reader doesn't know about yet. If so, this would mean that Naruto faces yet another danger.

2. When Minato mentions about Bee possessing something powerfull.....he's not referring to the Bijuu. He said, "It's like you're not even the eight tails jinchuuriki". He was mysterious about it and even Raikage's dialogue doesn't point towards the eight tails. It's something else, some different power or destiny or whatever.

Someone said they think Minato meant that KB would just become a weapon......this is possible, but not very climatic. I think it's something bigger. Maybe some kind of animal insanity or personality merging with the bijuu....I dunno. I'm at a loss on this one. I can't find a way to put it all together and come up with a theory I feel could be valid.

TEAM THEORY

Let's get the best theorist on this one and come up with something outside the box.....I bet it'll end up being pretty out there. But please do use logic and don't just throw in stupid stuff just to make it outlandish. Imaginative but plausible by the laws of Narutoverse. A possibly valid theory that's outside the norm. That's what we're looking for.

I thought it fairly straightforward, but let's assume you're right instead. I elect that he suffers the same fate as Ichibi/Shukaku.`:shock:

[Parak111]

Basically he is saying, B mastered it so well, it just seems he hella strong.


This for the first. For the second, with the "What your brother holds dear..." he's implying that A should know to bond with Killer Bee, as he'll have a precious person for him to protect, which makes him strong. It's what the previous Eight-Tails jinchuriki told A too, and A listened to him, hence why Bee is so good with his Tailed Beast.

Because unlike how all other junchuriki were from the beginning, Bee was not alone and he had the support of his brother. That made him strong.

[EvL j3st3r]

did anyone besides kreegah read the entire original post?

[Shikamaru Nara]

I did.

I don't really think that it meant much, just like Zero said.

[JazzJunkie4]

regarding points 1 and 2, I don't know about that. It seems like a bit of a stretch, I think 2 may be more likely than 1. I think what minato said by the first quote was that B fights with different intentions than most shinobi, having gone through jinchurikee childhood, he must have viewed everything slightly different than anyone else. When A came along I guess it was what happened with naruto and iruka or team 7 (gaara with naruto too). I think that that something powerful is some sort of greater strength B gets from fighting on his brother's behalf. Naruto gets that I think, like when he fought gaara. But the second quote I am not so sure about, I'm sure minato has seen things about jinchurikees from kushina, so he obviously knows something. It seems like it is something bad so maybe just built up anger, idk that one I can't put my finger on

[deidara330]

I think you're wrong. Minato could very well be refering to the hole in one's heart created by being a Jinchuriki. Killerbee filled that hole, but Minato likely says what he does for A to realize exactly what it is Killerbee filled it with. As the former Jinchuriki said, and as the Nine-Tails has demonstrated in Naruto, Tailed Beasts prey on the weakness of the hearts of their hosts. Killerbee most likely filled his heart with his relationship to his brother, but A is power-conscious and thinks Killerbee gets by on his strength. More likely than not, the Tailed Beast (Eight-Tails) sees that A only cares about power and will use that to rip open that hole Killerbee has and release himself. Minato, being married to a Jinchuriki, probably understands the process and is telling A that if he doesn't realize what Killerbee truly cares about, the Eight-Tails will overtake him and he'll die.

It leads up to Killerbee's Waterfall of Truth Training and what A does to not only recognize the bond between them, but strengthen it, preventing the Eight-Tails from taking control. It would all lead up to Killerbee explaining why he'd rather have A kill himself instead of Naruto, and A would probably stop the effort to re-capture them completely because of it.

So basically, I predict that the next chapter ends the flashback and leaves off on Killerbee stating something about his bond with his brother. It creates a cliffhanger of "What will A do now?"

[EvL j3st3r]

Yea, maybe I was looking to much into it. wrong perspective maybe. I'm still not going to rule out that it could have meant something more than the obvious choice tho. Some things about it just seemed to be mysterious. Like Kishi was trying to hint at something without giving it away.

[zerosameri]

did anyone besides kreegah read the entire original post?
I read it, you just over thinked it.

[Revived Kakuzu]

Perhaps overusing your biju gives them a good opportunity to take over your body? Or combine with you and make sort of hybrid, where it's their power, their mind, your intelligence.

[kalmeast]

"It's like you're not even the 8 tails jinchuuriki, but a true ninja....who possesses something powerfull"

"What does your brother hold most important? You'd better find out what it is before he becomes neither a Jinchuuriki nor a person."

- Minato

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

I can't believe there isn't already a dozen crackpot theories posted about these statements.:lol:.

Ok. So it's nothing to do with what the previous 8 tails jinchuuriki said about filling the hole in your heart bc that was in reference to not being able to control the beast. By the point Minato made these statements, Bee had already gained control. And Minato visually saw that control. So it can't be related to that.

ANALYSIS

1. It seems that seeing Bee's control over the bijuu is what spurred him to make the above statements. So could that mean that there is a possible risk or side effect to bijuu control that the reader doesn't know about yet? If so, this would mean that Naruto faces yet another danger.

2. When Minato mentions about Bee possessing something powerfull.....he's not referring to the Bijuu. He said, "It's like you're not even the eight tails jinchuuriki". He was mysterious about it and even Raikage's dialogue doesn't point towards the eight tails. It's something else, some different power or destiny or whatever.

Someone said they think Minato meant that KB would just become a weapon......this is possible, but not very climatic. I think it's something bigger. Maybe some kind of animal insanity or personality merging with the bijuu....I dunno. I'm at a loss on this one. I can't find a way to put it all together and come up with a theory I feel could be valid.

TEAM THEORY

Let's get the best theorist on this one and come up with something outside the box.....I bet it'll end up being pretty out there. But please do use logic and don't just throw in stupid stuff just to make it outlandish. Imaginative but plausible by the laws of Narutoverse. A possibly valid theory that's outside the norm. That's what we're looking for.

yea, I'm depressed from some of the answers you're getting...it's like no one read the thread at all except for Kreegah, Deidara and juzzjunkie...

shikamaru, I don't really think that it meant much, just like Zero said.,
how can u say that, when the next chapter is entitled, "what Minato's words meant" and how could such an important character appear in an important part of the manga and leave last words that are meaningless? come on...are you being lazy?...

@ j3st3r, i'll work wit cha'

First approach is that thinking the obvious would happen as most suggest is misunderstanding the work of a genius like kishi in the first place... he wont be kishi if those lousy answers any simpleton could forge are the solutions...

ok. I'm gonna deidara this post.

"It's like you're not even the 8 tails jinchuuriki, but a true ninja....who possesses something powerful"

The key phrase in this is " but a true ninja". We then start by asking ourselves, what the definition of true ninja is to minato? since we dont know so much about minato except he has silly ass guts, we try to see who else minato consider's a true ninja. (would he consider Orochimaru as a true ninja? obviously no, but yes, his sensei, Jiraiya, he would consider as one).
Jiraiya was a true ninja to minato because he had guts, that's what jiraiya himself defined to orochimaru. Guts and the will not to give up.

assuming this is the case, where does killer Bee fall: obviously to minato, this kid got the guts to go face the 8-tails to fight him and control him... this is relevant to the point that A's sensei said he was filled with fear which every jinchuriki faces contrary to Bee who was filled with guts announcing how he would deal with the best when he becomes it's jinchuriki.

who possesses something powerful
As for this something powerful, it's hard to say...i'm more inclined to deidara's explanation until i find some alternative answer.

"What does your brother hold most important? You'd better find out what it is before he becomes neither a Jinchuuriki nor a person."

I'm uncertain about what he meant by what does he hold dear but i'm afraid you're right that kishi is setting the case to reveal something crazy about jinchuriki.

But my answer to this is that, Minato is warning/advising A to recognize what KillerBee hold's dear and protect that thing. Perhaps if he fails to recognize that thing and not protect it this is what might happen:

If A is what killerbee holds so dear, if A is trowing himself about like that and get's killed, while Killerbee is in 8-tail form he'd would lose composure and succumb to rage and will cause Killerbee from becoming unable to revert himself back into human. He would remain (even with control of 8-tails) in a beast form forever!

*that's what i can think of at the moment. but reps to Deidara...that was concise:D

[PlatonicZombie]

This for the first. For the second, with the "What your brother holds dear..." he's implying that A should know to bond with Killer Bee, as he'll have a precious person for him to protect, which makes him strong. It's what the previous Eight-Tails jinchuriki told A too, and A listened to him, hence why Bee is so good with his Tailed Beast.

Because unlike how all other junchuriki were from the beginning, Bee was not alone and he had the support of his brother. That made him strong.


I don't see what the fuss is about. Parak posted what I thought Minato meant.

Minato seemed to suggest that A better recognize that it is himself that fills the hole within B's heart, and not what B claimed at the time (which was him being stronger than A).

[medlnic15]

For the second part i think it means that he better do something before bee dies (which would be the the neither a jinchuuriki or a person)

[EvL j3st3r]

^ I can't really see that being what he meant. It's an awful funny way to word he might die. But thanks for your comment.

thanks kalmeast and Revived Kakuzu....for your positive contributions. Seems we are all in agreement that it could mean some kind of merger of power and/or mentality.

@Zero........you don't know that I over thought it yet....I may have but we'll have to see. And if I did...open mindedness isn't such a bad thing you know.

[zerosameri]

@Evl: Well, I mean, it's stated simply enough. Though, like It's like you're not even the 8 tails jinchuuriki, but a true ninja....who possesses something powerfullHe's saying that be has mastered it so smoothly and so nicely; it's amazing because it just seems like another Ninjutsu. But something strong and something better. Like a will to fight, a will to control it. You know?

Not something to get all "we need to analyze this" type of thing.

[JazzJunkie4]

@Evl: Well, I mean, it's stated simply enough. Though, like He's saying that be has mastered it so smoothly and so nicely; it's amazing because it just seems like another Ninjutsu. But something strong and something better. Like a will to fight, a will to control it. You know?

Not something to get all "we need to analyze this" type of thing.

......:|

[zerosameri]

......:|
What? I didn't know any other way to exsplain it. :\

[Jakropha]

Technically, this falls under cryptology...

At the first line, I believe that the 8 Tails holds no oppression against him, leaving KB free to be a ninja, with said Bijuu, but it seems more like a weapon than a burden, therefore, KB has mastered the 8 Tails, in either a way like Naruto now, or taming the 8 Tails permanently.

At the second line, he may mean that KB has yet one more hurdle to pass, psycological. He is married to Kushina, so he may have been hit home by this issue, so it may be possible that he hasnt 'tamed' the evil in the 8 Tails yet.

Diagnosis?

KB is equal to Naruto at this point
Still at odds with his Bijuu, but has 'complete' mastery over it.

[Revived Kakuzu]

thanks kalmeast and Revived Kakuzu....for your positive contributions. Seems we are all in agreement that it could mean some kind of merger of power and/or mentality.
No problem. It's just the way he worded it that makes me think that. Because I doubt he just means that they'll use him as a weapon, as he still will retain his personality that way. I just hope Kishi explains this...