PDA

View Full Version : Are you bothered with how weak women in Naruto are?


Ultimate combatant
06-07-2011, 04:11 AM
Warning: Possible spoilers!!!

Kishimoto truly seems to underestimate girls.

The five strongest Kunoichi:

-Konan
-Mei
-Tsunade
-Shizune
-Kurenai

The five strongest Kunoichi, and yet they are nowhere even close to the strongest characters.

Konan is the closest if she gets preparation time. Without she is still the strongest of the five, but is easily overpowered by even base Jiraiya. And she is dead anyway, so I doubt she`ll be shown fighting again.
Mei, quite strong Kage, but not anywhere on top level with Killer Bee, Naruto, Pain, Madara, Itachi, Jiraiya,...
Tsunade, one of the weakest Kage, weakest Sannin, weaker than A, Mei, Onoki, and probably even Danzo, weakest Hokage as well.
Shizune, 4th strongest Kunoichi, yet even (far) weaker than Tsunade, who is weak anyway.
Kurenai, 5th strongest Kunoichi, yet her Genjutsu, was easily deflected by Itachi, and Itachi nearly killed her if it wasn`t for Kakashi.

How many of you think Kishimoto shouldn`t underestimate Kunoichi and make them equal to Male Shinobi?!! :D

medlnic15
06-07-2011, 04:44 AM
yeah, they are very underestimated and i think at times that they need to be al ittle stronger

madara'
06-07-2011, 05:14 AM
Warning: Possible spoilers!!!

Kishimoto truly seems to underestimate girls.

The five strongest Kunoichi:

-Konan
-Mei
-Tsunade
-Shizune
-Kurenai

The five strongest Kunoichi, and yet they are nowhere even close to the strongest characters.

Konan is the closest if she gets preparation time. Without she is still the strongest of the five, but is easily overpowered by even base Jiraiya. And she is dead anyway, so I doubt she`ll be shown fighting again.
Mei, quite strong Kage, but not anywhere on top level with Killer Bee, Naruto, Pain, Madara, Itachi, Jiraiya,...
Tsunade, one of the weakest Kage, weakest Sannin, weaker than A, Mei, Onoki, and probably even Danzo, weakest Hokage as well.
Shizune, 4th strongest Kunoichi, yet even (far) weaker than Tsunade, who is weak anyway.
Kurenai, 5th strongest Kunoichi, yet her Genjutsu, was easily deflected by Itachi, and Itachi nearly killed her if it wasn`t for Kakashi.

How many of you think Kishimoto shouldn`t underestimate Kunoichi and make them equal to Male Shinobi?!! :D
That's true.
Kishi sweems to be underestimating the Kunoichi of Naruto.

gama-sennin
06-07-2011, 05:28 AM
There is something seriosuly wrong with the way Kishi looks at female characters. Except for Tsunade, every other kunoichi has suffered from undevelopment due to not getting enough screen time. But in case of Tusande there is absolutely no excuse. She hasnt had a single power up since the time when she introduced before TS. She is currently weakest of the kages and one of the hugely under-develped characters.

Kimimaro Kaguya
06-07-2011, 05:31 AM
i hate that the girls are so weak >=(

7swordsmen
06-07-2011, 07:00 AM
you forgot about Temari

Ultimate combatant
06-07-2011, 07:04 AM
you forgot about Temari

Well, I "forgot" about Sakura, Tenten, Hinata and plenty of others, too!!! :D

I didn`t actually forget, I just named the strongest five!!! :D

KANKUROSGIRL
06-07-2011, 07:53 AM
You are right the kunoichi are too weak. They are always overshadowed by the males.

ItachiU
06-07-2011, 01:11 PM
Idc.... Women are stupid and I don't respect them, that's right i just have s3x with 'em.

Wind Style Naruto
06-07-2011, 01:13 PM
Idc.... Women are stupid and I don't respect them, that's right i just have s3x with 'em.

.....................Oh crap...........

Shikamaru Nara
06-07-2011, 01:14 PM
Nope.

Wind Style Naruto
06-07-2011, 01:24 PM
Female characters in Naruto aren't weak its just that male characters are stronger.

Plus you left out Chiyo.

I mean lack of female characters who can fight isn't that bad compared to certain manga/anime(DBZ and Katekyo Hitman Reborn).

I mean there are plenty of male characters who are weaker than most female characters like Hidan and Zetsu are easliy the weakest Akatsuki members.

Lets not forget Ao, Shi, and some other guys.

Jonesy
06-07-2011, 01:29 PM
Konan is sexy.

That is all.

ItachiU
06-07-2011, 02:01 PM
^^^


EWWWWW, she's gross...

Tsunade or Ino is where it's at

zerosameri
06-07-2011, 02:09 PM
The show is about Naruto, and it's a Shonen Manga. There is no reason for girls to be strong in it. The story is for boy, about boys and so forth... Hell sense it's shonen, Kishi could of had ALL boys and no girls.

Jonesy
06-07-2011, 02:13 PM
^^^


EWWWWW, she's gross...

Tsunade or Ino is where it's at

There is a special place in hell for you.

Nyaki
06-07-2011, 04:39 PM
This has always bugged me. I wish Kishi would make the girls just as strong as the guys. But that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Vivi
06-07-2011, 05:07 PM
Warning: Possible spoilers!!!

Kishimoto truly seems to underestimate girls.

The five strongest Kunoichi:

-Konan
-Mei
-Tsunade
-Shizune
-Kurenai


What are you basing this on?

Fuu the Seventails Jinchuuriki is bound to have been majorly strong when of all Jin's she is only topped by Bee Naruto and Rikodou.

Going by Hype Toka Senju was a force to be reckoned with as according to DB she was worldwide known for her marvelous Genjutsu Ability.
And that when the likes of Madara and Izuna strolled around.

Mito Uzumaki and Kushina?

Ultimate combatant
06-07-2011, 06:09 PM
What are you basing this on?

Fuu the Seventails Jinchuuriki is bound to have been majorly strong when of all Jin's she is only topped by Bee Naruto and Rikodou.

Going by Hype Toka Senju was a force to be reckoned with as according to DB she was worldwide known for her marvelous Genjutsu Ability.
And that when the likes of Madara and Izuna strolled around.

Mito Uzumaki and Kushina?

I just named five strongest Kunoichi I could think of, or at least stronger ones just to prove my point.

Fu`s not yet completely decided whether male or female, I think...

But even, so... The fact he is dead means he was killed by Akatsuki. So it`s not far fetched to say he`s weaker than characters like:

Naruto, Killer Bee, Sasuke, Itachi, Pain, Madara, Kisame,...

Toka? I don`t know, She might`ve been truly strong.

Mito and Kushina? Probably very strong, but I doubt they are top tier!!

But you`re right, there might be some Kunoichi I didn`t see, or don`t know how strong she is!!! :D

assassin
06-07-2011, 06:12 PM
I disagree with this statement...

that is all

ItachiU
06-08-2011, 12:50 PM
There is a special place in hell for you.

Konan is pretty much emo/goth/scene. And she never smiles. She's weird.

Throw Rasen-Shuriken
06-10-2011, 08:31 AM
I do get quite annoyed with the fact that all the females seem quite weak in Naruto, at times I just feel like slapping the book closed when it comes to a part with the ladies getting pounded, Kishi must have the belief that males should be stronger than the females, for that whole alpha male thing, so it seems that they are always the heroes to come flying in, to protect the female, it's the classic hero-like story concept which seems to be every where, in everything that you read, watch or play.

PandaHero
06-10-2011, 08:53 AM
very much so yes..an how all my fav chicks get the least amount of screen time! (hinata is a perfect example) but i will admit, they do kick some @ss when they get into it. :o

Nagahana
06-10-2011, 10:47 AM
It really is annoying how every girl is there but they are often protected by men or can't use their abilities because the men want to handle the stuff to prove he is the strongest.
Sakura was awesome on Rescue Gaara but now she doesn't do a thing
Temari just gets strong versions of the same jutsu
Hinata is to shy to ever do anything
Ino has a fierce personality as she doesn't like to be protected by her team mates and was tougher than they were on the war, but she doesn't fight heads on
And I do'nt even need to start on Tenten...

Ino's Girl
06-10-2011, 10:53 AM
It really is annoying how every girl is there but they are often protected by men or can't use their abilities because the men want to handle the stuff to prove he is the strongest.
Sakura was awesome on Rescue Gaara but now she doesn't do a thing
Temari just gets strong versions of the same jutsu
Hinata is to shy to ever do anything
Ino has a fierce personality as she doesn't like to be protected by her team mates and was tougher than they were on the war, but she doesn't fight heads on
And I do'nt even need to start on Tenten...
This.

VanTesla
06-10-2011, 02:21 PM
Well we don't actually have enough intel on Mei to say she is in any way she is weak. She was kicking ass the small part we get to see. Also I am curious on how good Kushina was in her later years.

Narutofan!
07-06-2011, 10:22 PM
i agree the women in Naruto are generally speaking made a little weaker then the males in the series they need to make the kunoichi a little stronger

Kakashi Hatake_Yamato
07-06-2011, 10:59 PM
sorta. but id say tsunade has lots of strenght

Ghostsammeo
07-09-2011, 02:01 PM
Tsunade is stupidly weak for her status as Hokage. The jonin could take her on easily. Kishi is a bit confused about everybodies power anyway. Sometimes this persons this strong then this person is weak but he's better than this person who is one of the strongest. Sadly in all this calamity he left the females rather low down on the powerscale.

Ino's Girl
07-09-2011, 07:02 PM
Tsunade is stupidly weak for her status as Hokage. The jonin could take her on easily. Kishi is a bit confused about everybodies power anyway. Sometimes this persons this strong then this person is weak but he's better than this person who is one of the strongest. Sadly in all this calamity he left the females rather low down on the powerscale.
He probably did it on purpose

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 07:17 PM
Did he do it on purpose? maybe....maybe not, to me,if all the women were crazy strong then it would just be the same....ninjas or kunoichi are still human so of course there gonna have there strengths and weaknesses,but all i can say is...Dont take the kunoichis for granted,they will surpise you or even kill ya.

Ino's Girl
07-09-2011, 07:22 PM
Did he do it on purpose? maybe....maybe not, to me,if all the women were crazy strong then it would just be the same....ninjas or kunoichi are still human so of course there gonna have there strengths and weaknesses,but all i can say is...Dont take the kunoichis for granted,they will surpise you or even kill ya.
I guess under estimation is one advantage of being a kunoichi. They have the element of surprise xD

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 07:24 PM
I guess under estimation is one advantage of being a kunoichi. They have the element of surprise xD
Never underestimate the power of the kunoichis.

Nick Tasogare
07-09-2011, 07:26 PM
Imo, they're only considered weak by people who look at Raikage or Sasuke and get their fap on, or people that think of a character only being powerful if they can blitz or stomp.

Look at Tsunade, she's not weak by any standard. Same goes for Sakura. Then there's Kurenai, Anko, and any number of others. Hell, even Karin is strong in her own way.

vermillion rage 7
07-09-2011, 07:27 PM
the women aren't weak!

vermillion rage 7
07-09-2011, 07:28 PM
Never underestimate the power of the kunoichis.

that's right brotha

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 07:28 PM
Imo, they're only considered weak by people who look at Raikage or Sasuke and get their fap on, or people that think of a character only being powerful if they can blitz or stomp.

Look at Tsunade, she's not weak by any standard. Same goes for Sakura. Then there's Kurenai, Anko, and any number of others. Hell, even Karin is strong in her own way.
Pretty much....All the women have something to add to the table and thats what makes it interesting.

vermillion rage 7
07-09-2011, 07:32 PM
Pretty much....All the women have something to add to the table and thats what makes it interesting.

i couldn't agree more

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 07:33 PM
i couldn't agree more
Whether its strength,stealth,genjutsu,etc....unless you know ur enemy very well,Never take an opponent likely...or lightly.

vermillion rage 7
07-09-2011, 07:35 PM
Whether its strength,stealth,genjutsu,etc....unless you know ur enemy very well,Never take an opponent likely...or lightly.

that's a good point, none of the females are weak

Ino's Girl
07-09-2011, 07:37 PM
Ino's got strenght, stealth, and looks :mrgreen: All kunoichi have that actually

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 07:38 PM
that's a good point, none of the females are weak
I mean...Sure you have Tsunade and Sakura,looking at them if u were new to the series,you'd say "whats so special about them" and then get blasted into next week by them...

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 07:41 PM
Ino's got strenght, stealth, and looks :mrgreen: All kunoichi have that actually
Kunoichis are supposed to be the spies,to blend into the surrounding and the place where they live...and besides Looks would be one of the 1st things that would make you think...oh she's weak....for example Hinata...just look at her,so innocent but if you cross her,she'll be a devil....Ino too,shes got the looks,but make her angry,Watch your back.

White Zetsu
07-09-2011, 07:44 PM
tsunade was ok at first in terms of power, but she got worse as time went on...and kishi does get confused on power thin, cuz he made oro say that Itachi was stronger than him, then kakashi an take him on with minor support for quite awhile... and oro said it with fear too... and then he says kakashi is weak...

vermillion rage 7
07-09-2011, 08:05 PM
I mean...Sure you have Tsunade and Sakura,looking at them if u were new to the series,you'd say "whats so special about them" and then get blasted into next week by them...


lol..

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 08:08 PM
lol..
well its true,course it goes with the others....

Sasuke726
07-09-2011, 08:09 PM
u have 2 take in2 account that if the women were that strong... then they wuld b not havin battles but they wuld b havin brawls... and is there any1 willin 2 c a brawl between some1 like konan and a strong character like killer bee. it doesnt sound interesting. even a brawl between 2 women doesnt sound as amazing as the fights had by some male characters.

im not bein chauvinistic but that is just my opinion on y kishi doesnt make the kunoichi as strong.

Black☆Star
07-09-2011, 09:28 PM
I only see three weak women in Naruto and that's Sakura, Ino, and Shizune.

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 09:32 PM
I only see three weak women in Naruto and that's Sakura, Ino, and Shizune.
How so?

Maikeru D. Shinigami
07-09-2011, 09:35 PM
They have to keep them weak, because women have tempers, and we wouldn't them accidentally killing Jirai, Asum, Hiruz, one of the pervert guys too hard.

Black☆Star
07-09-2011, 09:39 PM
How so?

In my view, when they fight an enemy they get beat up so easily. Sakura couldn't do absolutely nothing when she saw Sasuke, Ino, well I can't say anything about her, and did you see how easily one of those pain's got Shizune. Seriously. But Tsunade, Mei are strong women.

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 09:43 PM
In my view, when they fight an enemy they get beat up so easily. Sakura couldn't do absolutely nothing when she saw Sasuke, Ino, well I can't say anything about her, and did you see how easily one of those pain's got Shizune. Seriously. But Tsunade, Mei are strong women.
Sakura...well its understandable that she basiclly was love-struck,so yeah...Never saw the episode but read the manga,wasnt Shizune caught off guard or not expecting him?

Black☆Star
07-09-2011, 09:44 PM
Sakura...well its understandable that she basiclly was love-struck,so yeah...Never saw the episode but read the manga,wasnt Shizune caught off guard or not expecting him?

She let her guard down too easily.

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 09:45 PM
She let her guard down too easily.
She didnt expect the unexpected.

Black☆Star
07-09-2011, 09:48 PM
She didnt expect the unexpected.

Well I guess so.:roll:

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 09:51 PM
Well I guess so.:roll:
Stupid answer i know but oh well.

Ino's Girl
07-09-2011, 09:56 PM
They have to keep them weak, because women have tempers, and we wouldn't them accidentally killing Jirai, Asum, Hiruz, one of the pervert guys too hard.
Just cuz guys can't keep their eyes to themselves, don't mean kunoichi have to be weak xD

Taker369
07-09-2011, 09:59 PM
i take it none of you read or seen claymore all im gonna say is this it makes the girls in naruto look like fleas

Ino's Girl
07-09-2011, 10:00 PM
i take it none of you read or seen claymore all im gonna say is this it makes the girls in naruto look like fleas
How are they compared to the guys?

Maikeru D. Shinigami
07-09-2011, 10:00 PM
Just cuz guys can't keep their eyes to themselves, don't mean kunoichi have to be weak xD

Like girls keep their eyes to themselves.

People worry too much about people glancing at people.

Taker369
07-09-2011, 10:01 PM
How are they compared to the guys?

dont get me started

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 10:01 PM
How are they compared to the guys?
Im guessing or assuming youve never seen Claymore?

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 10:01 PM
dont get me started
Taker calm it down now.

Taker369
07-09-2011, 10:02 PM
Taker calm it down now.

what i was joking ?

Ino's Girl
07-09-2011, 10:03 PM
dont get me started
So they're stronger?
Im guessing or assuming youve never seen Claymore?
No xD

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 10:04 PM
what i was joking ?
were you?
So they're stronger?

No xD
You explain it to her Taker...your better at it.

Ino's Girl
07-09-2011, 10:10 PM
were you?

You explain it to her Taker...your better at it.
Just explain it the best you can xD

Jmalenko
07-09-2011, 10:22 PM
Just explain it the best you can xD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdEbxBf6cT8&feature=related

this might help.

hinata_brii
07-10-2011, 01:52 AM
yes is a bad way to say woman werent ment to be fighters i porb them rong in karate chionship in mexico city...

Ninjasummer
07-16-2011, 12:53 AM
I don't really think they're weak. They don't fight as head on and agressively as Shinobi like Naruto or Sasuke. You won't see a Kunoichi attack with something like rasengan or chidori. This doesn't mean they're weak. It simply means they fight in a more stealthy manner. They aren't really meant to attack people head on and overpower them imo. They all tend to excel at one role or technique. This helps with a mission a great deal. Hinata's byakugan helps track people. Sakura and Tsunade's medic skills heal a Shinobi who fights head on. Ino's tactics can take down a person from a distance. These are all strong and helpful manners of the Kunoichi.

Diogonaruto
07-16-2011, 06:28 AM
I don't think they are weak. I mean some are like ino or karin (still useful though) but there are some who are in the same level and even surpass most male characters like kurotsuchi and mei.

Sabaku.Soso
07-16-2011, 08:41 AM
They're not weak, they just dont (or didnt) do impressive things. For example, Mikoto were said to be strong enough reach the level of a jonin, Kushina was the jinchuuriki of the kyuubi so she was far from weak. Women in Naruto being not mentioned as much as men are doesnt mean they are weak. (Altho some of them really suck, such as Sakura or Ino but not all).

Warsaw504
07-20-2011, 05:32 AM
the girls are strong as hell if you really look at it

USSJ
07-21-2011, 08:42 AM
Some girls are strong as hell like Mizukage, Tsunade and Mito.

But Its only Sakura who gets the raw deal, same with Tenten. Kishi needs to improve his writing of Sakura.

Bacon
07-21-2011, 08:53 AM
Different culture, different portrayal. ;3

king kakashi
07-22-2011, 10:53 PM
i'm not bothered by it at all
but then again i don't pay attention to things like that

[Shikamaru]
07-22-2011, 11:21 PM
Strange, considering 2 of out 5 of the Kages are women. They must be weak.

Plenty of powerful women throughout the entire series.

Kiseki
07-23-2011, 06:51 AM
-Tsunade
-Shizune
-Kurenai
Excuse me, but those are pretty weak.
Kurenai was almost defeated by her own student if Naruto didn't stop the student.
Shizune... barely seen her in action, we have no clue if she is really THAT strong.
Tsunade could be defeated by so many people. I don't concider her the strongest konoha female.

Ontopic:
Yes it bothers me. It mostly helps if female watchers can have a female idol too.
So far that's only Mei or Yakumo for me. Pretty few as you see.

Shikamaru Nara
07-23-2011, 06:52 AM
Who would be? o.o

Ima'Steal Yo Crayonz'
07-23-2011, 06:59 AM
i noticed that on a lot of the missions naruto was always fighting everyone and sukura would randomly join in and sometimes just get hurt -.- kinda sucks

Shikamaru Nara
07-23-2011, 07:04 AM
Exactly. The story became like DBZ with Vegeta and Goku.

Kiseki
07-23-2011, 07:14 AM
Exactly. The story became like DBZ with Vegeta and Goku.
Mind = Blown
I think it looks too much like DBZ indeed ;~;

Shinju Minami
07-27-2011, 08:03 AM
Weak? No. Too little development and screentime? Yes.
It seems that Kishimoto thinks that if a character can't kill and maul somebody, as eg. Naruto and Sasuke can, they're weak. That's not just the women by the way, but in general. Unfortunately he often portrays the ladies that way, which is a real pity. b:|

Mrs Kakashi Hatake
07-31-2011, 07:46 PM
Not weak at all.
They are essential to the well running of the village,
which means that the men can go and do their job
without having to worry about what is going on at home.

sasu_girl
07-31-2011, 07:49 PM
not bothered by it. it's simply natural that women aren't as strong because that's just how it is. it's not sexist, it's the truth. women have to work harder to be at the same strength level as men.

Ohako
07-31-2011, 07:53 PM
Yes, in a way most aren't really weak like other ppl stated i hate the lack of screen time Kishi gives them. I do think Ino could be stronger and for part of the Sannin I was hoping for Tsunade to be strong as Orochimaru and Jiraiya, but o well i guess her medical knowledge is unrivaled

Yo_Slayer
07-31-2011, 08:49 PM
It's bothers me that they're not in kitchen.

And i'm just saying that if Sakura had half of Lee's taijutsu skills and speed, she'd be one Bad-A-Kunoichi.