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UchihaXSasuke
05-10-2011, 07:22 AM
location : in the desert
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Shikamaru Nara
05-10-2011, 02:56 PM
I doubt that Genjutsu would afflict him.
Kenny chops his head off.
Seven
05-10-2011, 02:59 PM
Is this a serious thread or a joke. :lol:
Kenny i dare say could possibley smash Susanoo. GG
Shikamaru Nara
05-10-2011, 02:59 PM
Jokes aren't made much anymore. >_>
Seven
05-10-2011, 03:01 PM
Like the Chuck Norris ones. Those make me giggle.
Shikamaru Nara
05-10-2011, 03:01 PM
People negged too much so they were disposed of.
Seven
05-10-2011, 03:03 PM
Damn Hippie Activists!
Rasengan SageX5
05-10-2011, 06:13 PM
I think that Kenny could tank anything Sasuke throws his way and he could probably break Susanoo.
Uchiha Sora
05-10-2011, 06:23 PM
Kenny breaks Susano'o and slices Sauce's head off. If Ei can tank an ammy on his arm i see no reason why Kenny can't :P
Seven
05-10-2011, 06:54 PM
I am gonna be serious and a little bias when I explain this, see if you can beat this reasoning Sasuke fans. Sasuke is at a speed disadvantage being only Supersonic in small bursts but much slower in fighting and running speed. Kenny has shown Supersonic+ fighting speed during his battle with Nniotra easily dodging the attacks he chose to dodge, and he kept up with Byakuya which can lead us to believe he is Hypersonic at the least.
Sasuke's Susanoo is unbreakable so far except by the Raikage who has the same Large Building Buster+ feat as Kenpachi. ( Fillers aside. ) Now let's note that Sasuke's Susanoo is not as durable as Itach's in the least, Itachi's tanked a Hill Buster+ attack while Sasuke's was easily shattered by A.
On to the next feat, Sasuke is not gonna tank any attacks from Kenpachi if hit, Kenny is gonna smash Susanoo and he has the speed to reach it while dodging arrows. Kenny has casually deflected a Cero from a Top 5 Espada, taken blows from Tosen's and Kommamura's Bankai with not even a major injury.
Next Feat! Sasuke's Stamina is BS with all the hype he has recieved. He couldn't take a little bleeding and partial blindness. Kenny on the other hand has suffered grievous wounds and still taken peeps down like Santa Teresa Nnoitra with a single hit, granted it was Kendo he used. Kenny also defeated Tosen's Bankai while fully blind, deaf, immobile, and minorly wounded.
You guessed it! Next Feat. If we say that Chakra = Reiatsu for the match's sake then Sasuke's Chidori and Variations aren't gonna do much to kenny other than piss him off, Chidori itself may be able to pierce him but kenny wouldn't give two sh!ts. Kirin itself would do the most damage if any, but there are no weather conditions or prep time to make them, Sasuke is screwed on Raiton element jutsu.
On another note, Amaterasu is the deadliest attack that Sasuke has on Kenny, mainly because Kenny is dead if hit. Though he has been shown to make sacrafice in order to win like when he allowed Tosen to stab him in order to get him within range and regain movement inside his Bankai. He would most likely pull an A and cut that apendige from his body. That makes the only possible opening for Sasuke to kill Kenny to nail his torso or head with Amaterasu. A avoided it being only Supersonic+, Kenny is presumably Hypersonic, he won't have that problem.
Now we get to Sasuke's Genjutsu of the Mangekyo Sharingan, this is fodder, because as soon as he puts kenny in, Kenny is gonna rage and go berserker at the fact that he isn't fighting like a man and that he is hiding behind illusions. Kenny's stamina will also allow him to out-last the illusion. So if Sasuke goes with Susanoo right off the bat, he won't have the stamina to keep an illusion for too long, also Itachi never showed being able to use it for too long when he was fully healthy. ( Though it was Pre-TS Itachi. )
So Sasuke is left with simple sword combat. :lol: Enough said.
Kenny-chan takes this with all of Sasuke's resources destroyed and no petty minion to save his ass from Kenny's unamed blood thirsty sword.
UchihaXSasuke
05-11-2011, 06:27 AM
OFF topic
be serious
UchihaXSasuke
05-11-2011, 08:55 AM
I am gonna be serious and a little bias when I explain this, see if you can beat this reasoning Sasuke fans. Sasuke is at a speed disadvantage being only Supersonic in small bursts but much slower in fighting and running speed. Kenny has shown Supersonic+ fighting speed during his battle with Nniotra easily dodging the attacks he chose to dodge, and he kept up with Byakuya which can lead us to believe he is Hypersonic at the least.
Sasuke's Susanoo is unbreakable so far except by the Raikage who has the same Large Building Buster+ feat as Kenpachi. ( Fillers aside. ) Now let's note that Sasuke's Susanoo is not as durable as Itach's in the least, Itachi's tanked a Hill Buster+ attack while Sasuke's was easily shattered by A.
On to the next feat, Sasuke is not gonna tank any attacks from Kenpachi if hit, Kenny is gonna smash Susanoo and he has the speed to reach it while dodging arrows. Kenny has casually deflected a Cero from a Top 5 Espada, taken blows from Tosen's and Kommamura's Bankai with not even a major injury.
Next Feat! Sasuke's Stamina is BS with all the hype he has recieved. He couldn't take a little bleeding and partial blindness. Kenny on the other hand has suffered grievous wounds and still taken peeps down like Santa Teresa Nnoitra with a single hit, granted it was Kendo he used. Kenny also defeated Tosen's Bankai while fully blind, deaf, immobile, and minorly wounded.
You guessed it! Next Feat. If we say that Chakra = Reiatsu for the match's sake then Sasuke's Chidori and Variations aren't gonna do much to kenny other than piss him off, Chidori itself may be able to pierce him but kenny wouldn't give two sh!ts. Kirin itself would do the most damage if any, but there are no weather conditions or prep time to make them, Sasuke is screwed on Raiton element jutsu.
On another note, Amaterasu is the deadliest attack that Sasuke has on Kenny, mainly because Kenny is dead if hit. Though he has been shown to make sacrafice in order to win like when he allowed Tosen to stab him in order to get him within range and regain movement inside his Bankai. He would most likely pull an A and cut that apendige from his body. That makes the only possible opening for Sasuke to kill Kenny to nail his torso or head with Amaterasu. A avoided it being only Supersonic+, Kenny is presumably Hypersonic, he won't have that problem.
Now we get to Sasuke's Genjutsu of the Mangekyo Sharingan, this is fodder, because as soon as he puts kenny in, Kenny is gonna rage and go berserker at the fact that he isn't fighting like a man and that he is hiding behind illusions. Kenny's stamina will also allow him to out-last the illusion. So if Sasuke goes with Susanoo right off the bat, he won't have the stamina to keep an illusion for too long, also Itachi never showed being able to use it for too long when he was fully healthy. ( Though it was Pre-TS Itachi. )
So Sasuke is left with simple sword combat. :lol: Enough said.
Kenny-chan takes this with all of Sasuke's resources destroyed and no petty minion to save his ass from Kenny's unamed blood thirsty sword.
ok then hear my opinion
In the begining
zaraki would say:
-Try to cut me!
Splash zaraki cuted in half(katana +chidori)
that's one part
well if zaraki thinks he is stronger
if he is serios than sasuke would use susanoo
and i don't think ken can block a susanoo arow
he lost his batle with ichigo so....
if he does,he tries with tsukuyomi
he is caught in genjutsu
and i really don't belive that anyone with no-sharingan can brake it
he still can use chidori nagashi,chidori blade,or simply chidori
when chidori is activated it is very fast
this would wound ken very much
and as for kirin
he needs just a fireball in the skyes to create weather conditions
sasuke haves amaterasu on susanoo so if kenpachi hits him he's dead
now i told you my opinion and as for the sword battle that you wrote about
i think a chidori blade vs kenpachi soulest sword sasuke's katana win
sasuke don't even get hit beacause of his sharingan,he can see every of zaraki's atack
if you still think ken's got a chance then reply
Zestu
05-11-2011, 09:08 AM
I'm gonna go with Zaraki Kenpachi. Sasuke is quite similar to No Etora he think's he's the best and thinks he cannot lose even in susanno form Zarakis kendo would breack all of his ribs plus it's rare the Zaraki feels pain. Sasuke has a handful of great techniques but thinks to highly of himself but with his severel chidori techniques as well as fire his is a pretty talented man but for a someone of more of a younger age stands a poor existence against the mighty kenpachi I sai Zarkai but I wouldn't be surprised if it goes ether way a pretty good fight though!
Skrall
05-11-2011, 09:23 AM
Tsukuyomi would proof to be unharmful, since Kenpachi could use his huge amount of reiatsu to break it quite easily.
Kenpachi could easily dodge Amaterasu black flames using his speed. And I actually believe there's a possibility he could break it, at least from behind.
Even if Sasuke reinforced Susanoo's defences with Amaterasu, Kenpachi would very possibly do the same thing the Raikage did: sacrifice one of his arms to get a hold of Sasuke.
If Sasuke had prep. and if they were fighting in a different location and if Sasuke had luck on his side, he could've stand a chance of winning.
Sagepain
05-11-2011, 09:32 AM
Tsukuyomi would proof to be unharmful, since Kenpachi could use his huge amount of reiatsu to break it quite easily.
Kenpachi could easily dodge Amaterasu black flames using his speed. And I actually believe there's a possibility he could break it, at least from behind.
Even if Sasuke reinforced Susanoo's defences with Amaterasu, Kenpachi would very possibly do the same thing the Raikage did: sacrifice one of his arms to get a hold of Sasuke.
If Sasuke had prep. and if they were fighting in a different location and if Sasuke had luck on his side, he could've stand a chance of winning.
Tsukoyomi isin't a normal genjutsu, the only way to break out of it is if your a skilled sharingan user, or if your a jinchuuriki, the bijuu will break the genjutsu for its host.
Releasing massive amounts of reitsu/chakra in one big burst will not break tsukoyomi.
everything else I agree with.
Skrall
05-11-2011, 09:40 AM
Tsukoyomi isin't a normal genjutsu, the only way to break out of it is if your a skilled sharingan user, or if your a jinchuuriki, the bijuu will break the genjutsu for its host.
Releasing massive amounts of reitsu/chakra in one big burst will not break tsukoyomi.
everything else I agree with.
Even so, if Kenpachi is caught by Tsukuyomi, he'll be physical and psychology unharmed, if we bear in mind Tsukuyomi has the same or similar effects than Tosen's Bankai.
Seven
05-11-2011, 12:19 PM
ok then hear my opinion
In the begining
zaraki would say:
-Try to cut me!
Splash zaraki cuted in half(katana +chidori)
that's one part
well if zaraki thinks he is stronger
Sasuke doesn't have the ability to cut Kenpachi, Chidori Blade would be no more effective than Nniotra's Cero, the energy level is also much lower and Sasuke doesn't have the destructive ability to pierce Kenny's skin.
if he is serios than sasuke would use susanoo
and i don't think ken can block a susanoo arow
he lost his batle with ichigo so....
Comparing the current Kenny with that Kenny is a noob move, Kenny kept up with Byakuya who is Hypersonic even, he rapes Susanoo arrows in speed.
if he does,he tries with tsukuyomi
he is caught in genjutsu
and i really don't belive that anyone with no-sharingan can brake it
Sasuke won't use Tsukuyomi at start, he has never shown to use it at all actually, what he did to Naruto wasn't Tsukuyomi he merely used the Sharingan to see the Bijuu.
he still can use chidori nagashi,chidori blade,or simply chidori
when chidori is activated it is very fast
this would wound ken very much
and as for kirin
he needs just a fireball in the skyes to create weather conditions
Sasuke doesn't have time to prepare a Kirin and quite frankly he doesn't have the power to hurt Kenny with a blunt energy attack, maybe a pure Chirdori because of the pircing properties but then again Nniotra had Kenny-chan dying and Kenny still kicked his ass with a single hit.
sasuke haves amaterasu on susanoo so if kenpachi hits him he's dead
Like I said before Kenny would sacrafice an arm if he had to do so, Susanoo is still smashed.
now i told you my opinion and as for the sword battle that you wrote about
i think a chidori blade vs kenpachi soulest sword sasuke's katana win
sasuke don't even get hit beacause of his sharingan,he can see every of zaraki's atack
Sasuke doesn't have the ability to keep up with people faster than him even with Sharingan, his eyes would have such a hard time sending the info to the brain and back that he would pull an Aoba and over-heat his eyes. ( KHR Reference )
if you still think ken's got a chance then reply
In Yellow
Uchiha Sora
05-11-2011, 01:53 PM
ok then hear my opinion
In the begining
zaraki would say:
-Try to cut me!
Splash zaraki cuted in half(katana +chidori)
that's one part
well if zaraki thinks he is stronger
Well considering attacks way stronger than chidori don't even phase him... thats incorrect.
if he is serios than sasuke would use susanoo
and i don't think ken can block a susanoo arow
he lost his batle with ichigo so....
He can dodge Susanoo arrow. if he can keep up with byakuya then Susanoo arrow won't be hard to dodge
he still can use chidori nagashi,chidori blade,or simply chidori
when chidori is activated it is very fast
this would wound ken very much
and as for kirin
he needs just a fireball in the skyes to create weather conditions
Just so you know it doesn't take one minute for a cloud to form. Besides if he wastes time using katons he's gonna get blitzed while he tries. Chidori variants won't do anything either
sasuke haves amaterasu on susanoo so if kenpachi hits him he's dead
Did Ei die when he got hit with ammy? Nope. Did Karin? Nope. Ei just cut his arm off. Kenny would bust susanoo and chop Sauce's head
now i told you my opinion and as for the sword battle that you wrote about
i think a chidori blade vs kenpachi soulest sword sasuke's katana win
sasuke don't even get hit beacause of his sharingan,he can see every of zaraki's atack.
Okay. Just cuz sasuke sees the attack, it doesnt mean anything. Sasuke vs Lee proved that. If he can't dodge it, then it won't mean anything if he sees the attack coming. And Kenny is as strong as Ei if not stronger. THeres no way sauce's katana>Kenny
if you still think ken's got a chance then reply
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UchihaXSasuke
05-12-2011, 07:00 AM
Like I said before Kenny would sacrafice an arm if he had to do so, Susanoo is still smashed.
wow wow wow
raikage lost a hand and didn't destroyed susanoo
if kenny atacks he will lose a hand and do nothing more than a wound
+raikage haves a more powerful atack than kenny
Did Ei die when he got hit with ammy? Nope. Did Karin? Nope. Ei just cut his arm off. Kenny would bust susanoo and chop Sauce's head
Bee didn't died because he subtitute with his arm
karin didn't died beacause sasuke put amaterasu out
if Ei is raikage than i tell you that Ei didn't god hit he atacked sasuke and lost a hand
he didn't sufered a full ammy
Amari360
05-12-2011, 08:03 AM
One Kendo should do the trick.
Sagepain
05-12-2011, 11:27 AM
One Kendo should do the trick.
IF that hits, Besides nothing sasuke has would KILL kenpachi, while ANY of kenpachi's attacks would kill sauce lol.
Uchiha Sora
05-12-2011, 12:47 PM
wow wow wow
raikage lost a hand and didn't destroyed susanoo
if kenny atacks he will lose a hand and do nothing more than a wound
+raikage haves a more powerful atack than kenny
Bee didn't died because he subtitute with his arm
karin didn't died beacause sasuke put amaterasu out
if Ei is raikage than i tell you that Ei didn't god hit he atacked sasuke and lost a hand
he didn't sufered a full ammy
I'm pretty sure Kenny>>>>Ei in strength, but Putting that aside, Ei's followup attack which most likely would have killed sauce was blocked by Gaara. And Kenny has a sword which could most likely bust Susano'o. He may not even have to sacrifice an arm.
Ammy didn't spread fast on Karin, that's what I meant.
Like a burning hand will even bother Kenny anyway.
And a full ammy won't hit Kenny. If he can dodge the arrow ammy is a walk in the park
Amari360
05-12-2011, 02:23 PM
IF that hits, Besides nothing sasuke has would KILL kenpachi, while ANY of kenpachi's attacks would kill sauce lol.
Chapter 312 Page 2.
Chapter 312 Page 3.
Chapter 312 Page 4.
You were saying?
Even if Kenpachi's Kendo misses Sasuke, the applied force of the Kendo will create enough destructive damage (as shown from the proof I've provided you) to destroy Sasuke.
Seven
05-12-2011, 02:31 PM
wow wow wow
raikage lost a hand and didn't destroyed susanoo
if kenny atacks he will lose a hand and do nothing more than a wound
+raikage haves a more powerful atack than kenny
Raikage broke through Susanoo and hit Sasuke, and since Raikage certainley doesn't have as much strength as someone who could put a 20 meter long 10 meter deep slash through the ground with just strength Kenny breaks through Susanoo.
Bee didn't died because he subtitute with his arm
karin didn't died beacause sasuke put amaterasu out
if Ei is raikage than i tell you that Ei didn't god hit he atacked sasuke and lost a hand
he didn't sufered a full ammy
In Yellow
Shikamaru Nara
05-12-2011, 02:53 PM
IF that hits, Besides nothing sasuke has would KILL kenpachi, while ANY of kenpachi's attacks would kill sauce lol.
...did you not realize how fast Nnoitora is? At least compared to Sasuke.
UchihaXSasuke
05-13-2011, 06:46 AM
the susanoo at kage sumit was the weakest form of sasuke susanoo
the actualy susanoo is much better
watch episode 210 211 and you'l see
cnorwood
05-13-2011, 08:32 AM
the susanoo at kage sumit was the weakest form of sasuke susanoo
the actualy susanoo is much better
watch episode 210 211 and you'l seewhat part of anime isnt canon dont people understand
UchihaXSasuke
05-13-2011, 09:29 AM
what part of anime isnt canon dont people understand
and canon means manga?
anime are done much better
you can see there
DEIDARALOVER778
05-13-2011, 09:58 AM
I'm just gonna say it... KENPACHI WILL KICK SASUKE'S BUTT IN BATTLE!!!!b:P And I'm a sasuke fangirl.
Uchiha Sora
05-13-2011, 10:05 AM
the susanoo at kage sumit was the weakest form of sasuke susanoo
the actualy susanoo is much better
watch episode 210 211 and you'l see
Didn't Danzo crack Susano'os back with a windstyle jutsu?
If so then Kenny would have no problem doing so
Kenny would prob blitz him b4 Sasuke even uses Ms.
And if his eyepatch is removed...
Sagepain
05-13-2011, 10:10 AM
Chapter 312 Page 2.
Chapter 312 Page 3.
Chapter 312 Page 4.
You were saying?
Even if Kenpachi's Kendo misses Sasuke, the applied force of the Kendo will create enough destructive damage (as shown from the proof I've provided you) to destroy Sasuke.
Sasuke survived C0 which covered around the same amount of land that zaraki's Kendo Explosion did.
Besides zaraki doesin't NEED to use kendo to kill sasuke a simple swing of his sword would be enough.
Its not like I'm saying kenpachi loses lol.
sagemaster777
05-13-2011, 12:19 PM
and canon means manga?
anime are done much better
you can see there
*Facepalm*
Uchiha Sora
05-13-2011, 01:28 PM
and canon means manga?
anime are done much better
you can see there
Anime shows stuff that didn't happen exactly like it did in the manga. Canon is whatever is the original I'm pretty sure. I don't have a definition but I know what it is. I.e Neji's mountain crusher and 128 palms were anime only. (just learned that yesterday lol) So they didn't actually happen and neji doesn't actually know it in the manga.
UchihaXSasuke
05-16-2011, 05:03 AM
Anime shows stuff that didn't happen exactly like it did in the manga. Canon is whatever is the original I'm pretty sure. I don't have a definition but I know what it is. I.e Neji's mountain crusher and 128 palms were anime only. (just learned that yesterday lol) So they didn't actually happen and neji doesn't actually know it in the manga.
every body can use whatever information they want
even if they are in manga or anime
Amari360
05-16-2011, 07:37 AM
the susanoo at kage sumit was the weakest form of sasuke susanoo
the actualy susanoo is much better
watch episode 210 211 and you'l see
Anime is Non Canon.
Seriously, do you even know what Non Canon means?
Uchiha Sora
05-16-2011, 09:20 AM
every body can use whatever information they want
even if they are in manga or anime
nope. they can't unless OP states it. Anime is an adaption of the manga in most cases. This is one of those cases. If they use non canon info it will be irrelevant and useless unless the OP allows non canon info to be used
:O Games are non canon. Take Ultimate Ninja series for example. Will using chidori make the sky black and cause the whole area to explode in the manga? Naw.
Nothing in the anime happened exactly the same way in the manga
UchihaXSasuke
05-16-2011, 10:23 AM
no specification in the first post
most of all naruto fans watch anime not reading manga
sagemaster777
05-16-2011, 10:31 AM
no specification in the first post
most of all naruto fans watch anime not reading manga
And how do you Exactly Know this?
Uchiha Sora
05-16-2011, 10:40 AM
no specification in the first post
most of all naruto fans watch anime not reading manga
Only canon material is accepted, unless stated otherwise. read the rules `|(
And how do you know most people watch the anime? Especially when the manga is farther, and started before the anime...
ChINaMaN1472
05-16-2011, 12:07 PM
and canon means manga?
anime are done much better
you can see there
no specification in the first post
most of all naruto fans watch anime not reading manga
Canon means the original material. The manga is the original material. The anime is not.
Only canon material is accepted. Read the rules.
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4581143&postcount=1
And the anime is far inferior due to inconsistency in animation.
UchihaXSasuke
05-16-2011, 12:09 PM
in the same rules post there is this
All characters being debated are at their most recent abilities as shown in the manga, anime, comic, TV show, movie, etc.
Uchiha Sora
05-16-2011, 12:49 PM
in the same rules post there is this
All characters being debated are at their most recent abilities as shown in the manga, anime, comic, TV show, movie, etc.
thats for when the ANIME is being used. Or when the anime is canon. Because a little farther down, it says "Only canon material is accepted" or something along those lines. And in this case, anime is not canon.
ChINaMaN1472
05-16-2011, 03:08 PM
in the same rules post there is this
All characters being debated are at their most recent abilities as shown in the manga, anime, comic, TV show, movie, etc.
Anime is used when it is the canon material or if the OP specifies it. An example would be Avatar: The Last Air Bender.
UchihaXSasuke
05-17-2011, 06:34 AM
what the ;);););) is canon?
Uchiha Sora
05-17-2011, 09:04 AM
what the ;);););) is canon?
The original material written by the author.. The anime in this case isnotcanon.
But it is the case in Avatar, Last Airbender
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