The Rennigan Belongs to Me, to Begin With...Madara.

[kalmeast]

Madara Wont Lie About Something like that to a Dying Konan...He wouldn't...So it must be true that Madara Owns the Rennigan...This is My Theory...

We understand that The Rennigan is The most powerful Dojutsu, Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan, then Mangekyo Sharingan, Then Sharingan, Then Byakugan...In that Order... Now lets focus on The Sharingan And Rennigan...

One with A Sharingan needs to Kill His BEST FRIEND to Obtain The Mangekyou Sharingan.

One with The Mangekyou Sharingan needs to "Kill" Their Sibling or Near Kin to Obtain the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan.

Now, Since Rennigan is the Higher Form Of Sharingan (since it has been said that the sharingan evolved from the Rennigan - Rikoudo's olders son's lineage)
To obtain anything thing Higher Than Eternal Mangekyou Sharinga, WHAT MUST ONE DO?
What is closer than a sibling or Kin...The answer is Simple...SELF.

So I believe That Madara had deciphers a part of the Tablet of the Rikoudo Sennin with his EMS. After that He needed the Rinnegan to Decipher the Rest of the Code. Obviously, he didn't Need the EMS any longer because he's decoded what he need to decipher with it... So what must he do?

Madara must Sacrifice His own EMS through a Certain Jutsu that may be revealed in the Code in Order to Birth one Possessing the Rinnegan...So Madara did this hoping that "the Nagato" would be Born... He obviously didn't know where. (This is why we haven't yet seen Madara Using his EMS...His Sharingan is never been in the EMS mode because he does have it).

For Me, This is the Only Logical meaning behind Madara's Statement that The Rinnegan Belongs to me to begin With.

So the secret of the Sharingan going from BEST Friend to BROTHER to SELF is a logical patten.

[Yori]

You do not need to kill someone to obtain the MS. Thats been proven with Sasuke.
You do not need to kill someone close to obtain EMS. Been proven with Sasuke.

So your saying Madara sacrifice the strongest pair of eyes known other than the Rinnigan for one Rinnegan eye? No.

[EvL j3st3r]

Well.....some of your early statements in your post, while at one point we all accepted them to be the case, can now be argued against. But I find your overall theory to be plausible to a certain extent (sacrificing his EMS somehow to gain Rinnegan is plausible......not very plausible to me that it's so that a Rinnegan holder will be born).

I personally think that Madara did some genetic altering to Nagato with some Uchiha cells giving Nagato the necessary DNA to manifest Rinnegan himself. Therefore, Nagato would've been the origional owner of that particular Rinnegan but in a sense Madara might say it's his Rinnegan since he technically created it's manifestation.

[kalmeast]

that's why I put "kill" in Parenthesis... the logical reasoning is least dependent on whether or not one kills another...even if u replace kill by "severed bond", the logic is not voided so it doesn't matter... i'd rather u debunk without pointing to trivial details that don't change the logic. that'd be neater...

[kalmeast]

that's why I put "kill" in Parenthesis... the logical reasoning is least dependent on whether or not one kills another...even if u replace kill by "severed bond", the logic is not voided so it doesn't matter... i'd rather u debunk without pointing to trivial details that don't change the logic. that'd be neater...

"Stupid Hinata....Not a care in this World" by Neji

[Yori]

It doesn't make sense at all, why would Madara give up the EMS for one Rinnigan eye? If madara had the EMS after his Harashima fight taking over everything without the Juubi and Rinnigan would be easy. Doesn't make sense

[EvL j3st3r]

that's why I put "kill" in Parenthesis... the logical reasoning is least dependent on whether or not one kills another...even if u replace kill by "severed bond", the logic is not voided so it doesn't matter... i'd rather u debunk without pointing to trivial details that don't change the logic. that'd be neater...

I'll tell you the truth. If you're going to post in town bookstore......be ready to get called on any single detail of your post. If ppl disagree with anything about it you'll probably know. Asking them not to is pointless. Here, I'll give you an example...........
It doesn't make sense at all, why would Madara give up the EMS for one Rinnigan eye? If madara had the EMS after his Harashima fight taking over everything without the Juubi and Rinnigan would be easy. Doesn't make sense


Are you insinuating that one Rinnegan eye isn't capable of all of the same things as two bc I see no evidence to support that. Mangekyou Sharingan is the only dojutsu that has shown more power for having the technique in both eyes.

[kalmeast]

Well.....some of your early statements in your post, while at one point we all accepted them to be the case, can now be argued against. But I find your overall theory to be plausible to a certain extent (sacrificing his EMS somehow to gain Rinnegan is plausible......not very plausible to me that it's so that a Rinnegan holder will be born).

I personally think that Madara did some genetic altering to Nagato with some Uchiha cells giving Nagato the necessary DNA to manifest Rinnegan himself. Therefore, Nagato would've been the origional owner of that particular Rinnegan but in a sense Madara might say it's his Rinnegan since he technically created it's manifestation.
True...This theory is only based on A Sentence...There's not many Info to deduce a convincing argument which I'm not trying to do... It's "food for thought" I must rather put it...but yes...your theory is also plausible...

[Gouldy17]

its plausible the whole sacrificing the EMS to gain the rinnegan maybe he had to sacrifice his own body thats why he says hes only a shadow of his former self....my opinion differs on why he said that....we know madara knew nagato what with personal visits to the rain country ect. and that jiraiya never knew anything about the rinnegans true abilities so its not entirely impossible for madara to have taught nagato how to use the rinnegan to its limits thus giving the power of said dojutsu to nagato...this to me is the way that makes most sense