If you care about the BG Wiki, come here

[Phoenix Wright]

Because of the utter fail going on lately, basically Viz altogether, Lee, myself, mainly people on AIM are leaving the BG. Whether they post or not is their decision. We've had faith for this place, but what little hope we had no longer exists. It's not a big deal normally I just would stop posting here and just "leaving" shouldn't be a big deal, but the thing is we made this for an important announcement(okay it isn't that important but still).

We're taking the Wiki. Lee, Kisame and I created it, and have complete ownership of it. We can do whatever we want, delete it if we wanted to. Don't like it? join us or deal with it. Even if you people wanted to do something to stop us, there's hardly anything you could do, in fact... Even the very little you could do being members and all, we've taken some steps beforehand.. and banned every single one of you, so even if you wanted to do something you couldn't do a thing.

If you wish to join us, getting AIM is a good way of doing so, otherwise just PM me, at least I expect that to happen either way. My AIM name is under my name to the left, or "Yoshi9871" if you need it directly. Type "AIM" into google, it's simple, or PM me like I said. So if you join us, then you'll rejoin the wiki if you actually care about it that much, and nothing's lost. Once you've shown being worthy that you won't do something retarded or betray us(but you couldn't do much so it's not like it matters xD).

Joining us for what you might ask, well that's why you'll PM or IM me or whatever in order to find out. And the "important" announcement is more the fact we're not just taking it to be jerks but if you wanna know like I said, PM/IM.

So in closing, if you have any objections, well, that's too bad. Post, and say your last words to us or join us, granted you don't talk with us through AIM, NF, anything else. And post your thoughts. Like I said, just leaving isn't a big deal by itself and isn't supposed to be retarded and dramatic so don't make it that way, this post was for the wiki and the fact you should join us and PM me and whatever else.

If you attempt to make a pathetic copy of the wiki by the way, I highly doubt that it'll go well, but try if you want to. Then again I know that not many people care about the wiki and it isn't much of a big deal but I just wanted to make sure I said that(about jacking the wiki) to let people who actually still give a crap like D330 know.

Finally, if you PM us, we'll tell you how you can join us and what to do after that.

And the last thing(seriously this time), I didn't wanna post this OP and didn't care for it, Lee and I wrote it together(but hey it's not much, just saying), I told Lee that he should post it because I didn't want to but he insisted so I did it >_>​

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

So why was this stuck?

[Phoenix Wright]

I'm not a mod so I can't stick so don't ask me. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/lmao.gif

[Kuromaki]

I stuck it because it has to do with the wiki and people should know... or something

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

Kuromaki did it, I guess because she's one of the ones leaving.

Oh well, I unstuck it so we're good now.

it's more about two or three people leaving than the wiki.

[Kuromaki]

Not really.

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

Yeah more or less it's about people leaving, leave it up if you want.

I personally don't care either way.

[Phoenix Wright]

Nah it isn't, what Kuro said.

I figured people would ignore the fact that I made sure I said it was more about the wiki considering I should actually note that for those who actually care about it, leaving by itself isn't a big deal.

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

I don't think many people even knew we had a wiki.

So, that's really my justification on the fact it's more about two or three people.

[Phoenix Wright]

Either way people should know, considering the wiki thread has as many posts as it does shows that a lot more than two or three people know about it.

And when Deidara330 whines about why he can't post on the wiki anymore and why there aren't any members because he didn't see this then there you go.

[Konoha'sGreenThunder]

I agree with Sasori.

Also, haven't the members here contributed greatly to the Wiki? But because you guys decided this place is no longer worthy of your presence, you ban everyone from it and take the effort they put into it for yourselves? You make it sound like there are factions with the 'join us' stuff.

Stop bawwing and threatening people like they committed some atrocious act against you. This is more about people leaving and telling everyone else to suck it than it is about the wiki, so it's been unstuck.

[Phoenix Wright]

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/nfandom/yelrotflmao.gifWell my prediction was successful.

Hey now can you read the thread and note the part that I bolded purposely for people like you? kthx.

[Konoha'sGreenThunder]

Read it already. Saying you're not taking it to be a jerk doesn't change what's currently happening and the way you're going about it.

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

Either way people should know, considering the wiki thread has as many posts as it does shows that a lot more than two or three people know about it.

And when Deidara330 whines about why he can't post on the wiki anymore and why there aren't any members because he didn't see this then there you go.

Considering that was over the span of a year and a half...

people may know about it but how any people really frequent it?

[deidara330]

And when Deidara330 whines about why he can't post on the wiki anymore and why there aren't any members because he didn't see this then there you go....Okay? :| /whines

Thanks for making this, though, saved me the trouble of making my own thread. Yeah, I'll PM you. I already considered myself one of the only people who still ran the thing.

[Frost ninja]

We have a wiki? ;););)?
Also yeah, thats kinda lame that everyone put a piece in the pot and you decide because your friends and you are hungry you take the entire pot.

But I'm just some random person.

[Phoenix Wright]

Read it already. Saying you're not taking it to be a jerk doesn't change what's currently happening and the way you're going about it.
Well due to the fact you don't know why and clearly don't care for knowing why...
Considering that was over the span of a year and a half...
If you'll go to the wiki thread you can clearly see quite a bit more than two or three people knowing about it or caring about it, the last few posts/pages you can easily see the amount of people posting.

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

Oh can I?

Cool mayne, I guess you should have it then.

edit: Lol Frost Ninja. xD

[Konoha'sGreenThunder]

I honestly don't. You're being an ass, so basically get out and take your fail with you.

[Phoenix Wright]

...Okay? :| /whines

Thanks for making this, though, saved me the trouble of making my own thread. Yeah, I'll PM you. I already considered myself one of the only people who still ran the thing.
Alright good, I figured that you would post.
We have a wiki? ;););)?
Also yeah, thats kinda lame that everyone put a piece in the pot and you decide because your friends and you are hungry you take the entire pot.
Well I didn't get a PM so you don't know why or don't care for it like the others http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

And for the record, like I said in the OP which you guys should have read, nothing's gonna be lost if you actually just PM me or even care to find out why to realize I'm not "an ass" or whatever you want to call me.

[Phoenix Wright]

I honestly don't. You're being an ass, so basically get out and take your fail with you.
Well then you don't know why, don't care to know why, you confirmed it, so why would you even post here since you have no knowledge as to why we're doing what we're doing...and don't care to know why?

I have just as much right to be here as you, but considering you don't even care, then even at that.

[Nābris]

We're taking the Wiki. Lee, Kisame and I created it, and have complete ownership of it. We can do whatever we want, delete it if we wanted to. Don't like it? join us or deal with it. Even if you people wanted to do something to stop us, there's hardly anything you could do, in fact... Even the very little you could do being members and all, we've taken some steps beforehand.. and banned every single one of you, so even if you wanted to do something you couldn't do a thing. ​
So, simply because a handful of you decided to leave this forum, you are denying access to a helpful database, specifically made for this BattleGrounds, that you AS WELL AS OTHERS have taken the time to work on unless they agree with your view on the forum and follow you.

And I thought Dudemeister was tyrannical. :lol:

[Nick Tasogare]

Because of the utter fail going on lately, basically Viz altogether, Lee, myself, mainly people on AIM are leaving the BG. Whether they post or not is their decision. We've had faith for this place, but what little hope we had no longer exists. It's not a big deal normally I just would stop posting here and just "leaving" shouldn't be a big deal, but the thing is we made this for an important announcement(okay it isn't that important but still).

We're taking the Wiki. Lee, Kisame and I created it, and have complete ownership of it. We can do whatever we want, delete it if we wanted to. Don't like it? join us or deal with it. Even if you people wanted to do something to stop us, there's hardly anything you could do, in fact... Even the very little you could do being members and all, we've taken some steps beforehand.. and banned every single one of you, so even if you wanted to do something you couldn't do a thing.

If you wish to join us, getting AIM is a good way of doing so, otherwise just PM me, at least I expect that to happen either way. My AIM name is under my name to the left, or "Yoshi9871" if you need it directly. Type "AIM" into google, it's simple, or PM me like I said. So if you join us, then you'll rejoin the wiki if you actually care about it that much, and nothing's lost. Once you've shown being worthy that you won't do something retarded or betray us(but you couldn't do much so it's not like it matters xD).

Joining us for what you might ask, well that's why you'll PM or IM me or whatever in order to find out. And the "important" announcement is more the fact we're not just taking it to be jerks but if you wanna know like I said, PM/IM.

So in closing, if you have any objections, well, that's too bad. Post, and say your last words to us or join us, granted you don't talk with us through AIM, NF, anything else. And post your thoughts. Like I said, just leaving isn't a big deal by itself and isn't supposed to be retarded and dramatic so don't make it that way, this post was for the wiki and the fact you should join us and PM me and whatever else.

If you attempt to make a pathetic copy of the wiki by the way, I highly doubt that it'll go well, but try if you want to. Then again I know that not many people care about the wiki and it isn't much of a big deal but I just wanted to make sure I said that(about jacking the wiki) to let people who actually still give a crap like D330 know.

Finally, if you PM us, we'll tell you how you can join us and what to do after that.

And the last thing(seriously this time), I didn't wanna post this OP and didn't care for it, Lee and I wrote it together(but hey it's not much, just saying), I told Lee that he should post it because I didn't want to but he insisted so I did it >_>​

YES, MEIN FURER.

But no, I'm seriously laughing so hard. It's the internet so like, stop acting like you're some rebel group that is the light in the darkness. Omfg this is just so funny idek xDDDD

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

I might have to agree, you are being quite the ass word.

[Kuromaki]

And here I thought no one cared about the wiki xD

[Miles Edgeworth]

And here I thought no one cared about the wiki xD

I second this. `:P

[Phoenix Wright]

So, simply because a handful of you decided to leave this forum, you are denying access to a helpful database, specifically made for this BattleGrounds, that you AS WELL AS OTHERS have taken the time to work on unless they agree with your view on the forum and follow you.

And I thought Dudemeister was tyrannical. :lol:
Again, you don't know why or clearly don't care to know why.

But you know what, from this point on I don't really care.
So yes, I'm taking it, I'm a gigantic jerk, people can suck it, and I'm taking it. There's nothing anyone can do, so ha.

I mean really I'm giving you guys a chance to actually know why and know that we're not being jerks but nobody cares, so why even bring it up.
YES, MEIN FURER.

But no, I'm seriously laughing so hard. It's the internet so like, stop acting like you're some rebel group that is the light in the darkness. Omfg this is just so funny idek xDDDD
I know right, well anyway I'm such a meanie, so it's not like you can do anything about it.

And what Kuro said, if nobody cared about the wiki that much, people are making a pretty big deal about it xD

[deidara330]

people may know about it but how any people really frequent it?Besides myself I can think of no one. Dudemeister used to but perhaps a fifth of his edits were purely opinionated and quite a few reflected only bias. He left anyways.

Intervention: Cause I don't like people arguing with each other. My suggestion here is change the title to something more relevant. The joke featured is humorous but overused and it might do better to reflect on the purpose of this thread if the title stated so. A title featuring only "Attention" won't get quite as many people posting because some object to having someone require their attention as they believe that objectively defines what is or is not important.

Shorter version: Change title. And, shorten the OP. Here I thought I dragged on my posts, but if the purpose for making this is really as simple as taking the wiki and letting the people who want to stay on it know then that's all you need to say.

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

It's the way of going about it, that's the annoying part.

[Nick Tasogare]

And here I thought no one cared about the wiki xD

Imo, it's more the principle at this specific moment in time. Like KGT said in the Cbox:

'It's like he's a burglar saying you should have said something if you didn't want your furniture stolen' or something like that xD

EDIT @Phoenix: We don't care why because it doesn't matter. Taking something that's not solely yours isn't cool no matter what the reason.

[Phoenix Wright]

Imo, it's more the principle at this specific moment in time. Like KGT said in the Cbox:

'It's like he's a burglar saying you should have said something if you didn't want your furniture stolen' or something like that xD

How does that matter? And that's a horrible example. Reason:

I don't give a crap what the victim thinks, whether they said they didn't want it stolen is their problem because it's not like they can stop me.

I'm saying, okay you know what, like I said if you people actually give a crap you'd PM me but clearly you don't and just care about feeling like you're the ;);););) and calling me an ass, so if you don't know why and know that I'm not a jerk, up until then, then yeah I'm a jerk.

So there's no point in whining since it's getting taken anyway, no matter how much of an ass that I am.

And what the hell, a chatbox? Talking crap behind our backs then calling for backup,
real professional. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.png

[Frost ninja]

I honestly didnt know we had one, but I don't like how your taking it all when a lot of other people joined in making it. Its like designing a website only to fire the person who helped you make it (social network lulz).

Thats about it. Me being a random member and the only one without a mod patch probably doesn't hold much weight with my opinion and all, I just dont like the idea of taking something that everyone worked on, even if no one cares about it.

People may not like what you have to say, but when it comes down to it they will defend to the death your right to say it.

Translation to the current situation --> People may not frequent something they put work into, but when it comes down to it they will defend to the death their rights to use it. They made it, or helped make it, after all.

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

It's the way you stated it, you just worded it wrong.

[Nick Tasogare]

EDIT @Phoenix: We don't care why because it doesn't matter. Taking something that's not solely yours isn't cool no matter what the reason.

Way to ignore this, Phoenix. You keep saying it's simple as that, so just post it. God damn, it's not that difficult.

EDIT: Lol Phoenix, you banned everyone from a wiki so they wouldn't betray you. REAL PROFESSIONAL HAHAHAR

[Konoha'sGreenThunder]

ITT: 1: RAWW MY WIKI *snatch* DON'T TRY TO TAKE IT BACK OR ELSE

2: Uh, that's not really fair..

1: IF YOU CARED YOU WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING OBVS NOT MY FAULT

[Miles Edgeworth]

And what the hell, a chatbox? Talking crap behind our backs then calling for backup,
real professional. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.png

Yeah there's this chat box that people with higher powers can see and use.

Back when I had my smodness and the like I could see it too, but I lost that ability quite a bit ago.

[deidara330]

How does that matter? And that's a horrible example. Reason:

I don't give a crap what the victim thinks, whether they said they didn't want it stolen is their problem because it's not like they can stop me.

I'm saying, okay you know what, like I said if you people actually give a crap you'd PM me but clearly you don't and just care about feeling like you're the ;);););) and calling me an ass, so if you don't know why and know that I'm not a jerk, up until then, then yeah I'm a jerk.

So there's no point in whining since it's getting taken anyway, no matter how much of an ass that I am.

And what the hell, a chatbox? Talking crap behind our backs then calling for backup,
real professional. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.pngIf you truly wish to accomplish something by responding I recommend you not say things like "you... just care about feeling like you're the ;);););)". Just saying, it goes against any hope of wanting the discussion not to degenerate.

And while it is strictly the organizer's wiki and no one else's, it was created for the purpose of servicing the members of this BG and states so in itself. I do intend to PM you, but from a reader's perspective I see no reason for you to have removed almost all of the MVBG's members and I would recommend that you at least give some more insight into that in this thread.

[Nick Tasogare]

Yeah there's this chat box that people with higher powers can see and use.

Back when I had my smodness and the like I could see it too, but I lost that ability quite a bit ago.

Iirc you requested out of it.

[Nābris]

And here I thought no one cared about the wiki xD
My thoughts are precisely as Nick already stated; the thought that you guys are selfishly taking away a very helpful database from a group of people who still use it for reference is rather disappointing. Also, D330 probably worked on that wiki more than most; I sure hope he had a say in this.

If not, shame on you.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Iirc you requested out of it.

I did? I don't recall.

Never really bothered me but meh.

[Phoenix Wright]

It's the way you stated it, you just worded it wrong.
I don't know how, saying PM me to find out why I'm not a jerk and how to not get anything lost from the situation, doesn't seem any different from what I'm saying now but obviously these people can't read the OP.
I honestly didnt know we had one, but I don't like how your taking it all when a lot of other people joined in making it. Its like designing a website only to fire the person who helped you make it (social network lulz).

Thats about it. Me being a random member and the only one without a mod patch probably doesn't hold much weight with my opinion and all, I just dont like the idea of taking something that everyone worked on, even if no one cares about it.

People may not like what you have to say, but when it comes down to it they will defend to the death your right to say it.

Translation to the current situation --> People may not frequent something they put work into, but when it comes down to it they will defend to the death their rights to use it. They made it, or helped make it, after all.
You hold more opinion than the idiots who are allowed modship over here, that's for sure. xD

Hey well I am right to say it, like I said there isn't anything anyone can do whether it's right or wrong so why should they make such a big deal about it.
Way to ignore this, Phoenix. You keep saying it's simple as that, so just post it. God damn, it's not that difficult.

EDIT: Lol Phoenix, you banned everyone from a wiki so they wouldn't betray you. REAL PROFESSIONAL HAHAHAR
Ignore what, sorry I don't go to Off-Topic 24/7 and can refresh a page in less then two milliseconds.

And again, if you actually gave a ;);););) then you would actually PM me to know why, hence why I actually didn't post it in the public.
ITT: 1: RAWW MY WIKI *snatch* DON'T TRY TO TAKE IT BACK OR ELSE

2: Uh, that's not really fair..

1: IF YOU CARED YOU WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING OBVS NOT MY FAULT
So... suck it, because you can't do anything?

Why post, oh you think it's wrong, okay opinion given, since you don't really give a crap and there isn't anything you can do anyway, then what?

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

Why not just say the reason out right?

Is it that strenuous bro?

[deidara330]

My thoughts are precisely as Nick already stated; the thought that you guys are selfishly taking away a very helpful database from a group of people who still use it for reference is rather disappointing. Also, D330 probably worked on that wiki more than most; I sure hope he had a say in this.

If not, shame on you.I had no such say. In fact, had I not seen this thread I would have discovered through the banning of all members of the Wiki including my own.

[Vex]

And what the hell, a chatbox? Talking crap behind our backs then calling for backup,
real professional. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.pnghey whatsup guys i came now what, is this OP

[Konoha'sGreenThunder]

How about we create a wiki using all the information from the one you just took over.

And you can't do anything about it.

Herp derp.

[Phoenix Wright]

Why not just say the reason out right?

Is it that strenuous bro?
Yes it is, but if you PMed me then you would actually learn why. But as I can see nobody else cares to know so why would you be any different.
hey whatsup guys i came now what, is this OP
More backup I see http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.png

[Miles Edgeworth]

How about we create a wiki using all the information from the one you just took over.

And you can't do anything about it.

Herp derp.

Well that's technically what we did with OBD so it hardly matters. :p

[Phoenix Wright]

How about we create a wiki using all the information from the one you just took over.

And you can't do anything about it.

Herp derp.
Alright that works, that's fine by me.

Since I won't have anything to do with the BG, you guys can try that and if it works great for you, then we'll have our own wiki, and you guys will have yours. I'm 100% honest right now, that works perfectly fine by me sure, go ahead and get to it and then it'll be settled! ^_^

You guys will have your wiki just like nothing happened at all, so there's no discussion here.

So KGT got his idea you guys can just do that.

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

You're using the word 'care' too much, it's starting to lose it's meaning.

we could do this wheel of fortune style, we'll spin the wheel and fill out the phrase of why you're 'not' being a jerk.

then again, we could always go the route where you just say it.

[Nick Tasogare]

hey whatsup guys i came now what, is this OP

Yes it is, but if you PMed me then you would actually learn why. But as I can see nobody else cares to know so why would you be any different.

More backup I see http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.png

Thank God, our back up has arr - OSHI THEY SPOTTED HER.

[Frost ninja]

I think something like this was going down in Egyptland a bit ago

Also mmmmmmmmm angry Pat P:

[Nick Tasogare]

I think something like this was going down in Egyptland a bit ago

Also mmmmmmmmm angry Pat P:

Back off of my Valentine.

[Konoha'sGreenThunder]

Wow, your arguments make no logical sense. If it's such a simple reasoning, why don't you just post it? Derpppp

Also, you know if both Pat and Nabris disapprove, you're being an ass.

[Nābris]

- OSHI THEY SPOTTED HER.
Alright, everyone, let's mosey.

[Frost ninja]

Back off of my Valentine.

*hiss* You back off, he's mine!
*pounce*

[Kuromaki]

My thoughts are precisely as Nick already stated; the thought that you guys are selfishly taking away a very helpful database from a group of people who still use it for reference is rather disappointing. Also, D330 probably worked on that wiki more than most; I sure hope he had a say in this.

If not, shame on you.
no he didn't, and idk it wasn't my plan.

[Nick Tasogare]

And again, if you actually gave a ;);););) then you would actually PM me to know why, hence why I actually didn't post it in the public.

K, I tried that.

Why are you taking it and why are you not a jerk?
I knew this was gonna happen.
I'm not gonna tell you idiots who are just gonna go publicize it after I tell you. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/faceplam.png

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt243/Nickito15/Phoeni.png?t=1297551187

Click the pic to see it closer.

[Phoenix Wright]

You're using the word 'care' too much, it's starting to lose it's meaning.

we could do this wheel of fortune style, we'll spin the wheel and fill out the phrase of why you're 'not' being a jerk.

then again, we could always go the route where you just say it.
Except you don't know why or don't care to know why. If you cared, you'd actually PM me.

And everyone else is just here to spam and attempt lulz and for shits and giggles. Nobody else really cares except maybe D330, and it doesn't contradict any of my past points considering I wanted to let those who knew about it know, and those who cared if they actually cared know too, like D330, and he posted. Other than that really, can you say effing spam in this thread, there is no point to the current discussion and it's completely and 100% irrelevant right now, I wanted posts for those who would actually PM me, those who cared, and those who knew about the wiki.

Not for some untrustworthy idiot mods to come post then baww about nothing then go tell all their other retarded friends to come post and create a shitstorm.

I mean really.

[Phoenix Wright]

K, I tried that.



http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt243/Nickito15/Phoeni.png?t=1297551187

Click the pic to see it closer.
Point proven, and I knew you would do that, so there's proof for you, if you're going to just PM me so you can publicize it don't even bother.

[Konoha'sGreenThunder]

Also ITT:

UGH MODS R SO STOOPID DEY ALWAYZ CALL 4 BAKUP >:[

Hahaha, it's a conspiracy.

Obviously you don't have any real reason. You won't say it here and claim we should PM you. Someone PMs you and you claim you won't tell them because they'll tell other people.

[Nick Tasogare]

That's why we aren't PMing you. Because we know you're not gonna tell us because you're paranoid and crazy. So stop using the 'GAWSH JUST PM ME GUIZE' excuse.

[Miles Edgeworth]

And everyone else is just here to spam and attempt lulz and for shits and giggles. Nobody else really cares except maybe D330, and it doesn't contradict any of my past points considering I wanted to let those who knew about it know, and those who cared if they actually cared know too, like D330, and he posted. Other than that really, can you say effing spam in this thread, there is no point to the current discussion and it's completely and 100% irrelevant right now, I wanted posts for those who would actually PM me, those who cared, and those who knew about the wiki.


This.

Maybe I was too optimistic, too hopeful for the future of the BG so I stubbornly clung to it. But it seems like every time I tried, something stupid would happen. And it just seems like the BG's prime is out of reach.

Feh, not like many of the regulars cared much for the wiki besides d330 so.....=/

[Phoenix Wright]

Wow, your arguments make no logical sense. If it's such a simple reasoning, why don't you just post it? Derpppp

Also, you know if both Pat and Nabris disapprove, you're being an ass.
Except you don't know why, and from this point on no idiots will ever know why.

So I'm gonna have to agree with what KGT said awhile back.

You guys can suck it, I'm taking it and there isn't anything to do.

This was just a thread to inform you but hey, mission failed, that's too bad. There are other methods to do what we were doing easily, but you guys don't know what we're doing and.... obviously won't, so there you have it.

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

Except you don't know why or don't care to know why. If you cared, you'd actually PM me.

And everyone else is just here to spam and attempt lulz and for shits and giggles. Nobody else really cares except maybe D330, and it doesn't contradict any of my past points considering I wanted to let those who knew about it know, and those who cared if they actually cared know too, like D330, and he posted. Other than that really, can you say effing spam in this thread, there is no point to the current discussion and it's completely and 100% irrelevant right now, I wanted posts for those who would actually PM me, those who cared, and those who knew about the wiki.

Not for some untrustworthy idiot mods to come post then baww about nothing then go tell all their other retarded friends to come post and create a shitstorm.

I mean really.


you know what make me feel better?

giving reasons why I'm not being a jerk.

[Konoha'sGreenThunder]

No, you made a thread that said your taking it and now flat out refuse to tell anyone the reasoning because you're butthurt and claim we'll tell everyone. If it's a good reason as you claim, why does it matter if people know?

So basically, get out and take your fail with you.

[Phoenix Wright]

That's why we aren't PMing you. Because we know you're not gonna tell us because you're paranoid and crazy. So stop using the 'GAWSH JUST PM ME GUIZE' excuse.
There you go, I already said a few posts back.

If there are people who actually CARE, I'll gladly tell you why, hence the point of the thread. People like D330 posting, those kinds of people, not retards trying to get their lulz in and spamming the threads.

Idiot mods who are just trying to flame and troll and whatever else shouldn't be told why and have no good reason to be told why, and it's not like you actually do care, unless somehow you can convince me.

[Miles Edgeworth]

It honestly does seem like most of the people here have no real care or connection to the BG anyway.

Much less the wiki.

[Phoenix Wright]

No, you made a thread that said your taking it and now flat out refuse to tell anyone the reasoning because you're butthurt and claim we'll tell everyone. If it's a good reason as you claim, why does it matter if people know?

So basically, get out and take your fail with you.
In fact I'm having a conversation with D330 right now about it and will easily tell him why.

Like I just said, I'm not gonna give it to idiot mods who don't truly care.

Maybe if you truly cared and weren't just attempting to get lulz and troll then I would.

[Lady Tsunade]

Phoenix Wright - you know I have respect for you as a debator. Without you, people would probably be saying " Sage of the Six Paths is featless. Therefore Konohamaru beats him. "
Because you were on the first people who actually pointed out that hype can be used in specific circumstances to make a judgement, iirc.

However, while you may have helped to create this wiki. Taking the whole thing despite many other people helping out and adding their share of information just doesn't seem right to me. I'm not happy with the BG atm if I'm honest, but - I don't think its anything some good ol debating and well thought out points can't fix. I don't plan on leaving it, particulary since I've been in the BG for almost 2 years and contributed to it ever since joining.

Not everyone is going to see this announcement, I advise PMing the people who helped out. Not expect them to do so. Only fair.


EDIT: Miles, just so you know. I care a lot for the BG. So..

[Phoenix Wright]

It honestly does seem like most of the people here have no real care or connection to the BG anyway.

Much less the wiki.
Exactly my point. Multiple times now I said I'm not gonna give it to some idiots who are just trying to be funny, it's a thread informing people and telling those who truly care.

[Nick Tasogare]

No, you said 'If you cared enough to PM me I'd tell you.' Then you switched the words around xD

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

Here, I renamed the thread for you. So when people come in here, they'll know to PM you.

good?

[Frost ninja]

long story short, why not just ban him already?
If he's doing this, its not like you can just tell him to stop and he will.
The trolling is tolling on the rest of the BG. I'm personally tired of seeing this thread.


Phoenix is a ;);););) for taking the wiki. I've seen this same thing spread thick over the past 4 pages. We get it.

If your done trying to convince the rock to become water, then just ban him and get on with our day. We can just pull the info anyways and remake the wiki, its no big deal. Yes, he is the bad guy here. This is a shame, but nothing we can do will likely change it.

Ban him, lock this, move on.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Phoenix Wright - you know I have respect for you as a debator. Without you, people would probably be saying " Sage of the Six Paths is featless. Therefore Konohamaru beats him. "
Because you were on the first people who actually pointed out that hype can be used in specific circumstances to make a judgement, iirc.

However, while you may have helped to create this wiki. Taking the whole thing despite many other people helping out and adding their share of information just doesn't seem right to me. I'm not happy with the BG atm if I'm honest, but - I don't think its anything some good ol debating and well thought out points can't fix. I don't plan on leaving it, particulary since I've been in the BG for almost 2 years and contributed to it ever since joining.

Not everyone is going to see your PMs, I advise PMing the people who helped out. Only fair.

Well if you're gonna stay then I hope for the best for you, as for Phoenix and I though, it seems like everything up to this point has just collapsed the quality of the BG. It seems like flaming is just rampant here and intelligent debate has died out.

If the BG gets awesome after we leave, well that's great, keep it that way. It's just I don't see how that's gonna go.

You're one of the people who deserves to know, but half the people here are just here for kicks and giggles. I mean look at the spamfest here, it's just detestable.

[deidara330]

Be more respectful, you guys. Seriously, I don't care about the justification for the insults, I'm a big believer in using no more force than necessary (and yes words are a force). I really don't want this to degenerate.

[Nābris]

And everyone else is just here to spam and attempt lulz and for shits and giggles. Nobody else really cares except maybe D330,
Don't assume such; I actually care because the Wiki was a useful database for Battlegrounds-goers. Sure, people can always visit the OBD if they choose, but I've found that this wiki was much more convenient in it's access and the information wasn't as biased or half-assed.

PM sent.

[Phoenix Wright]

long story short, why not just ban him already?
If he's doing this, its not like you can just tell him to stop and he will.
The trolling is tolling on the rest of the BG. I'm personally tired of seeing this thread.


Phoenix is a ;);););) for taking the wiki. I've seen this same thing spread thick over the past 4 pages. We get it.

If your done trying to convince the rock to become water, then just ban him and get on with our day. We can just pull the info anyways and remake the wiki, its no big deal. Yes, he is the bad guy here. This is a shame, but nothing we can do will likely change it.

Ban him, lock this, move on.
Lemmi respond real quick then do whatever you want, but then there'll be no more discussion and that'll just be that so there actually IS no chance that anyone who cares can actually have anything to do with it anymore, but whatevs.

Do whatever you want just give me like 5 minutes to respond to peeps.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Be more respectful, you guys. Seriously, I don't care about the justification for the insults, I'm a big believer in using no more force than necessary (and yes words are a force). I really don't want this to degenerate.

See the problem is what people are doing here is exactly how the BG has been for a while now.

Honestly you're one of the only debaters who still goes to the BG that I respect up to this point.

Sadly though I just don't see what can be done to save the BG. I mean it's not just the BG, but as you can clearly see this has become a crapstorm filled with ignorant spamming and pure foolishness.

From what Phoenix has said, I assume he's telling you what's going on with everything so I'll let him take care of that unless you wanna talk to me about it.

[Phoenix Wright]

Phoenix Wright - you know I have respect for you as a debator. Without you, people would probably be saying " Sage of the Six Paths is featless. Therefore Konohamaru beats him. "
Because you were on the first people who actually pointed out that hype can be used in specific circumstances to make a judgement, iirc.

However, while you may have helped to create this wiki. Taking the whole thing despite many other people helping out and adding their share of information just doesn't seem right to me. I'm not happy with the BG atm if I'm honest, but - I don't think its anything some good ol debating and well thought out points can't fix. I don't plan on leaving it, particulary since I've been in the BG for almost 2 years and contributed to it ever since joining.

Not everyone is going to see this announcement, I advise PMing the people who helped out. Not expect them to do so. Only fair.


EDIT: Miles, just so you know. I care a lot for the BG. So..
Yeah, I would gladly tell you but I'm gonna get banned soon. Thanks for the compliments and not flaming and whatever else. It'd be definitely better to get AIM for now so we can actually talk about it, I'd actually tell you knowing you ACTUALLY care and won't just tell everyone here my reasoning. But we can go to PM but it will only suffice for a bit. and it'd be a LOT easier the other way around if those who really even care just decided to get AIM. And at Sasori, if/when I get banned just edit the OP anything saying to PM me just change it to you have to get AIM and IM me if you guys actually care that much.
No, you said 'If you cared enough to PM me I'd tell you.' Then you switched the words around xD
There's no real difference. both points make sense. If you care enough to PM me I would have told you, except when idiots came in and started trolling, flaming and spamming and made the whole point of PMing pointless, so I said if you actually care about the wiki then sure.

Sasori the title's good,you can just keep it "If you care about the BG Wiki come here".

[Nick Tasogare]

/Laments over the BG and lays flowers

Since it will clearly be nothing without this group of self proclaimed meanies and jerks.

[Phoenix Wright]

/Laments over the BG and lays flowers

Since it will clearly be nothing without this group of self proclaimed meanies and jerks.
Since I'm leaving, say what you want since I don't care.

But for all I know you could be right.

I'll be leaving without anything else to say, been able to rest in peace or whatever you'd want to call it, if people flame me, hate me, troll, whatever they want to do it's fine by me, plus I won't be around to care.

[Miles Edgeworth]

/Laments over the BG and lays flowers

Since it will clearly be nothing without this group of self proclaimed meanies and jerks.

It already is nothing. =/

It has been, since the past few months have been nothing but spamming, flaming, and a step back in terms of quality.

Maybe Phoenix and I leaving won't make a difference, but who knows.

If you guys make a rise from the ashes, great, keep it that way so people don't have to suffer the fail that there is now.

As for us, we just gave up.

[Nick Tasogare]

Stop being all 'Oh I wish we could save it bawbaw cry' It's not a boat, it's not a living thing, so shut up and just leave already. Damn, you say you don't care but your actions speak louder than your text xD

[Frost ninja]

:( I feel like I'm involved in the "flaming and idiocracy" section for some reason

[Lady Tsunade]

Well if you're gonna stay then I hope for the best for you, as for Phoenix and I though, it seems like everything up to this point has just collapsed the quality of the BG. It seems like flaming is just rampant here and intelligent debate has died out.

If the BG gets awesome after we leave, well that's great, keep it that way. It's just I don't see how that's gonna go.

You're one of the people who deserves to know, but half the people here are just here for kicks and giggles. I mean look at the spamfest here, it's just detestable.

I don't like the disrespect that goes on..the ' LOLWUT ' , ' LMAO ' , ' HAHAHA NO. ' , ' You're wrong. Im right. ' crap needs to come to a stop. But like I said, nothing a bit of initiative can't fix.

Sad that you're leaving of all people. You were one of the people who everyone looked up to back when I first debated =/

They're angry because of this whole thing. Can't say I blame them. You guys have basicly said ' Up yours ' . But, meh. Suppose I'm being tolerant, don't wanna see a set of good debators disappear for something so stupid. Detestable? Detestable is the fact you who used to be so enforcing in the BG, the person who convinced EVERYONE Sasori could beat all Three Sannin at once would leave because of a little angry posting. You think higher ups like you guys couldn't solve something like that? And what else is detestable is the attitude you guys have. " We're taking the Wiki. We made it. We don't care you helped out with it. Up yours. If you wanna help us, PM. If not - we don't care. "

Like I said, losing a set of good debators over something so stupid seems illogical to me.

@Nick: You don't really understand. This behaviour of these guys isn't respectable at all. But the work they put into the BG in past really is. Losing them on terms like this would be a huge loss to the BG. So convincing them to leave? =/

[Miles Edgeworth]

Stop being all 'Oh I wish we could save it bawbaw cry' It's not a boat, it's not a living thing, so shut up and just leave already. Damn, you say you don't care but your actions speak louder than your text xD

Don't mix up your crap here.

Phoenix doesn't care anymore. He just hates the BG now, he has for a while and only stayed around cause I did.

As for me, that's an entirely different story. I held on as long as I felt I should, but everything leading up to here now has been more and more idiocy. That's just how it is.

Whether or not you all hate me or not, I suppose it doesn't matter. I just hope for the people who are worthy of knowing, this all gets cleared up.

As for everybody else, this spamming is utterly irrelevant and proves my point entirely.

[deidara330]

@General: Again, more respect. I'm very tempted to lock this thread.

[Nābris]

@General: Again, more respect. I'm very tempted to lock this thread.
At this point, I would suggest that you do so.

People who wish to know more about the topic could just PM Phoenix or Miles personally, as they have requested in the first place.

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

I don't really think it would matter if we lock it, most the people posting in here are mods anyway.

[Miles Edgeworth]

I don't like the disrespect that goes on..the ' LOLWUT ' , ' LMAO ' , ' HAHAHA NO. ' , ' You're wrong. Im right. ' crap needs to come to a stop. But like I said, nothing a bit of initiative can't fix.

Sad that you're leaving of all people. You were one of the people who everyone looked up to back when I first debated =/

They're angry because of this whole thing. Can't say I blame them. You guys have basicly said ' Up yours ' . But, meh. Suppose I'm being tolerant, don't wanna see a set of good debators disappear for something so stupid. Detestable? Detestable is the fact you who used to be so enforcing in the BG, the person who convinced EVERYONE Sasori could beat all Three Sannin at once would leave because of a little angry posting. You think higher ups like you guys couldn't solve something like that? And what else is detestable is the attitude you guys have. " We're taking the Wiki. We made it. We don't care you helped out with it. Up yours. If you wanna help us, PM. If not - we don't care. "

Like I said, losing a set of good debators over something so stupid seems illogical to me.

Perhaps, if you feel it can be done then I hope you can do it. I suppose it's possible, but who knows, only time can tell.

I can't lie, the times here were fun. These past years taught me a lot and debating with you all was great. I suppose no other forum experience could replace the time I've had here.

Did I really convince you guys that far? My Sasori debating was extreme and all but I never really got it that well, I think you're giving me a bit too much credit. xD

I don't know what I can solve anymore. For the past few years I've always had that "anything is possible if you put your mind to it" attitude and that's why I stuck with the BG for so long. That's why I still kept faith. But recent events have shown me maybe that's not the case, maybe I've overestimated myself. And perhaps I had. At the beginning of all this I was too overconfident and got butthurt so easily when somebody outdebated me. Let's just say things have changed my mentality. PM me if ya want, I don't feel like ranting too much more here.

So I'm sorry if you, or anybody else for that matter, hate me. Personally though I've come to the end of my rope.

[Phoenix Wright]

I don't like the disrespect that goes on..the ' LOLWUT ' , ' LMAO ' , ' HAHAHA NO. ' , ' You're wrong. Im right. ' crap needs to come to a stop. But like I said, nothing a bit of initiative can't fix.

Sad that you're leaving of all people. You were one of the people who everyone looked up to back when I first debated =/

They're angry because of this whole thing. Can't say I blame them. You guys have basicly said ' Up yours ' . But, meh. Suppose I'm being tolerant, don't wanna see a set of good debators disappear for something so stupid. Detestable? Detestable is the fact you who used to be so enforcing in the BG, the person who convinced EVERYONE Sasori could beat all Three Sannin at once would leave because of a little angry posting. You think higher ups like you guys couldn't solve something like that? And what else is detestable is the attitude you guys have. " We're taking the Wiki. We made it. We don't care you helped out with it. Up yours. If you wanna help us, PM. If not - we don't care. "

Like I said, losing a set of good debators over something so stupid seems illogical to me.

@Nick: You don't really understand. This behaviour of these guys isn't respectable at all. But the work they put into the BG in past really is. Losing them on terms like this would be a huge loss to the BG. So convincing them to leave? =/
WHAT, SASORI CAN'T BEAT ALL SANNIN AT ONCE WHAT IS THIS CRAP http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/wth.png

I don't really care, like Lee said, but getting the banhammer for something so pointless and retarded is.... retarded xD

I said do what they will so if the mods are that abusing of their power to actually do that go ahead, but it isn't banworthy imo.

Heck mods bypass their filter all day long and don't get one warning but the instant a noob does it, BAM infraction.

I dunno how long I'll be on so if you people actually CARE about the wiki, you can PM me, and at that even then it'd be much easier to just use AIM, especially since it's not like I'd get banned there.
@General: Again, more respect. I'm very tempted to lock this thread.
Honestly.... you should. The point was to just PM me if you actually care about the wiki, and other than that if you don't care about it, you wouldn't post at all.

[deidara330]

At this point, I would suggest that you do so.

People who wish to know more about the topic could just PM Phoenix or Miles personally, as they have requested in the first place.I agree.I don't really think it would matter if we lock it, most the people posting in here are mods anyway.That's why I think it would help. Personally I think it wouldn't be so disrespectful if people gave themselves time to cool down.

@Miles: I have my own perspective on how the BG could be improved, but since I'm locking this, please PM me for elaboration.

*Click*

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

but...most people can post...

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

you know, I really love Donnie Darko.

[Nick Tasogare]

/Touches Pat's shoulder

Let it rest, Pat. Let it rest.

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

Sorry, but this derp is herped.
Dude, it was a joke.

Edit by D330: ...Communist.

Edit By Pat: Can we lay off my post, it doesn't deserve this kind of discrimination.

[Nick Tasogare]

Edit by D330: Sorry, this thread is locked. You cannot post or buy ice cream here.

EDIT by NICK: K, won't happen again ;)

[Lady Tsunade]

What are you doing? Stop randomly spamming guys =/

Let this thing die.

EDIT by Nick: Since we can't post.

Um, you just rose it up after 20 minutes, genius xD