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Uchiha Raimaru
01-27-2011, 04:45 AM
Chapter 525, Page 17, Onoki says, "He has the power to combine the elements of Earth, Wind and Fire...My former master, the man who passed down to me the secrets of Dust-Element techniques."

So Earth Element + Wind Element + Fire Element = Dust Element?

Also, he passed them down to Onoki? I find this weird, as no Kekkei Genkai user to this point has been taught their Kekkei Genkai. They've all (to our knowledge) learned about it themselves. And is it just called a "Bloodline Expansion" because it combines three elements?

Discuss.

Yori
01-27-2011, 04:50 AM
Didn't you read the chapter? Muu was the first to use this kind of jutsu and passed it down to Onoki. Those two are the only ones to have ever done it.

Uchiha Raimaru
01-27-2011, 04:54 AM
Yeah, I read the chapter. I'm just a bit confused because this is the first time e see a Kekkei Genkai being taught. All we've seen is the user discovering it themselves. I suppose it's not totally out of the question. I'm just making sure I understood it right.

Yori
01-27-2011, 04:56 AM
Only Onoki and Muu know's it. Tsunade seems like she knew about it also

Phariah824
01-27-2011, 05:45 AM
imo i think that the "expansion" is someone w/ a KG learning how to incorporate a third elem w/ it to form a new combination / effect.

Mei has 3 elems but can only use as 2 seperate KGs not as an expansion.

Wind Style Naruto
01-27-2011, 06:50 AM
Here is my take on it.

All the past Kages were chosen because they were related to the previous Kages or one of them.

Maybe only Onoki and Mu can use it because they have 3 elements.

Wooster
01-27-2011, 07:20 AM
Raikage seems to know of it as well.

I love the fact that must of the revived Kage are ancient except Gaara's father.
Now I am just wistful that the Tobirama could have been revived somehow.

tsuki
01-27-2011, 08:28 AM
Raikage seems to know of it as well.
Didn't they say Raikage has it?

Yori
01-27-2011, 08:36 AM
Didn't they say Raikage has it?

No they didn't

Nick Tasogare
01-27-2011, 08:48 AM
imo i think that the "expansion" is someone w/ a KG learning how to incorporate a third elem w/ it to form a new combination / effect.

Mei has 3 elems but can only use as 2 seperate KGs not as an expansion.

That's what I'm thinking, sort of.

I think that Wind and Earth are able to make the Dust Element. It wasn't said that all three create the Dust Element, or that the Dust Element was the Expansion.

Earth + Wind is going to equal Dust. I think they'll add in the Fire as the Kekkei Genkai Expansion to be able to create Glass, or maybe Hot Ash.

Wooster
01-27-2011, 08:55 AM
That's what I'm thinking, sort of.

I think that Wind and Earth are able to make the Dust Element. It wasn't said that all three create the Dust Element, or that the Dust Element was the Expansion.

Earth + Wind is going to equal Dust. I think they'll add in the Fire as the Kekkei Genkai Expansion to be able to create Glass, or maybe Hot Ash.
Fused Silica FTW. I want these guys in my laser lab NAO! :lol:

Nick Tasogare
01-27-2011, 08:58 AM
Fused Silica FTW. I want these guys in my laser lab NAO! :lol:

Yea, there's always the chance Kishi will use Science in his world of Illogical Reasoning xDDDD

Kreegah!!!
01-27-2011, 09:25 AM
Lightning for the glass I'd think, but otherwise agree.

Maybe he fuses earth and fire for heated microscopic projectiles and uses wind to thrust them about. Similar to hot ash, but with punch.

Wooster
01-27-2011, 09:32 AM
Yea, there's always the chance Kishi will use Science in his world of Illogical Reasoning xDDDD
He has before with his explanation of Sasuke's heated-air lighting thinger jutsu he used on Itachi.

Not to mention, the microscopic chkara entanglement with cells. >.>