View Full Version : Spoiler: Tobi May Want the Byakugan
SharinganSage
01-07-2011, 08:57 PM
First, look at Ch. 510, page 13
this is when Tobi basically beat Konan and told her about the Sage of Six Paths.
Now, look at the third box... it shows, what looks like, the Juubi eye. But in the middle, it has a Yin Yang symbol.
Now we all know that the concept for the Hyuga was taken from Buddhism, which believes in the Yin Yang concept. Is this somehow connected to Tobi's goals??? Does this mean that the Byakugan is involved in this as well?
Konoha'sGreenThunder
01-07-2011, 08:58 PM
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SharinganSage
01-07-2011, 09:01 PM
oh sorry about that. won't happen again.:D
zerosameri
01-07-2011, 09:01 PM
I don't think Kishi would give Madara the Byakugan. :\
SharinganSage
01-07-2011, 09:04 PM
I don't think Kishi would give Madara the Byakugan. :\
then what does the Yin Yang mean?
zerosameri
01-07-2011, 09:05 PM
then what does the Yin Yang mean?
Uchiha and Senjus?
JazzJunkie4
01-07-2011, 09:07 PM
First, look at Ch. 510, page 13
this is when Tobi basically beat Konan and told her about the Sage of Six Paths.
Now, look at the third box... it shows, what looks like, the Juubi eye. But in the middle, it has a Yin Yang symbol.
Now we all know that the concept for the Hyuga was taken from Buddhism, which believes in the Yin Yang concept. Is this somehow connected to Tobi's goals??? Does this mean that the Byakugan is involved in this as well?
(It was on page 11 for me)
No, I believe the intention of it was, as the text says, to describe how he created the tailed beasts etc. using yin and yang powers.
By the way, we can count six things on that picture in case any one is interested: The Yin, the Yang, the sharingan, the rinnegan, and then two fires (senju and uchiha?).
Wind Style Naruto
01-08-2011, 12:42 AM
He might unless if we hear more about the Byakugan's origins and if the Byakugan's origins tie in with the Rinnegan, Sharingan, and the Rikudo Sennin Madara might(50%-75%) may end up getting the Byakugan to his collection.
Hyuuga Heir
01-08-2011, 06:44 PM
Are the Hyuga really based off of Buddhism? `:shock: Because I came up with a theory about the origin of the Byakugan that involved Buddha... http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86291
madara'
01-09-2011, 07:18 AM
Wow, he wants all the visual Jutsus don't he?:lol:
Shikamaru Nara
01-09-2011, 07:25 AM
At this point Madara has pretty much everything. I doubt that Byakugan is one of his goals.
!amanda
01-09-2011, 07:29 AM
I actually don't understand what is being discussed here!
Are you discussing the hero's belief?
UnDeAd Hikari
01-09-2011, 07:30 AM
He wont get rid of his remaining sharingan for a byakugan, he can still use the sharingan really well, as well as his rinnegan, getting a byakugan would be pointless...besides, the whole Uchiha clan was based around the sharingan
Parak111
01-09-2011, 10:36 AM
It is possible. That's the only doujutsu he doesn't have. He has the Sharingan and the Rinnegan. Madara's mask also has a third hole on top. That could be for the Byakugan's place. Question is, who will he kill in order to get it? Neji? Hinata?
EvL j3st3r
01-09-2011, 01:17 PM
Mark my words. Madara WILL need the Byakugan for something. it may not be for personal use but it will serve a purpose for his overall goals.
NarutoUzumaki12
01-09-2011, 05:19 PM
if this is true Madara has like an addiction to all visual jutsu
Rezeon
01-10-2011, 10:35 AM
Wouldn't Neji's brand prevent his eyes from being stolen like that? I thought that was one of the reasons the branch family had it.
It would be rather sad for Kishi to give Hinata a Disney death against Pain only to have Tobi steal her eyes later. Hiashi would be a better bet though. A confrontation like that would allow the opportunity for some closure between him and Hinata, as well as feed into the theme of the children stepping up to take their parents place.
As for why Tobi would go for it at this point... While it is true that between his two current eyes he is a pretty potent force, adding the byakugan would also add 360 degree telescopic x-ray vision to the mix. So with the Byakugan he could see all foes, then counter them with Sharingan fueled reflexes and Rinnegan fueled offensive/defensive options.
Plus that mask most definitely has a spot on it that is calling out for a third eye to be added.
EvL j3st3r
01-10-2011, 10:47 AM
It was said that the caged bird mark is put on the branch families to ensure the Byakugan secrets are kept. It's not so specific to say that a branch family member's eyes can't be stolen. I think it's more about protecting the specific techniques that are reserved for the main family. Such as the reserved techniques that Neji taught himself.
SilentBlade
01-10-2011, 11:37 AM
It would be interesting to consider this though, the Sharingan (as I recall from early in the manga) or should I say the Uchiha get their origins from the Hyuga clan. I find that interesting because it's never truly explained why that is! Perhaps there is somthing about the Byakugan we don't know about or that isn't explained (similar to the MS ability of the Sharigan).
EvL j3st3r
01-10-2011, 12:01 PM
^Agree. I've argued this many times.
SharinganSage
01-10-2011, 12:14 PM
I know a lot of people say that that Byakugan has no significance to the story anymore, but thing its kinda weird to introduce a concept into the manga... and not talk about it. If it was so insignificant, then Kishi would have given us some clue about that. The 3 Visual Justu have to do something... thats what I'm concerned about.
SilentBlade
01-10-2011, 12:26 PM
I can say this with fair certainty. We don't know as much about the Byakugan dojutsu because there hasn't been an antagonist that has had it. We tend to see the darker and more powerful sides of jutsus when we run into power hungry evil guys, who are seeking to destroy the village! typically they take their jutsu to the bare end and back finding out all the techniques that are attached to it! thus it creates a significants to the jutsu.
The question will be then, in the war, will someone get pushed to the point so we can see the very powerful techniques of the dojutsu? Will there be significants and need to have all three reunited in order to read the tablet considering we can say with some certainty that the Byakugan and Sharingan are related (and pehraps needed) to read the tablet.
SharinganSage
01-10-2011, 12:46 PM
We tend to see the darker and more powerful sides of jutsus when we run into power hungry evil guys, who are seeking to destroy the village! typically they take their jutsu to the bare end and back finding out all the techniques that are attached to it! thus it creates a significants to the jutsu.
I had never thought about that.
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